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Physical abuse/domestic violence - can it ever really happen just once?

143 replies

FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:17

DP has been treating me awfully over the last few weeks/months and showing elements of emotional abuse in his behaviour (see previous thread-- I said I was going to break up with him, but I did not). But he had never done anything even approaching physical until Friday night when we had an argument based on him again not treating me respectfully.

During this he pushed me several times onto a bed (I stood up and pushed back to show him how it felt in an act of defence but other than that didn't touch him). He also punched a light, said I was acting like a 'fucking bitch' and 'cunt'. He knocked/slapped my phone out of my hand, banged it against the wall three times, (I wasn't drunk but he was, and I was trying to write down the horrible abusive things he was saying as a record for the next day to show him). Much worse than all this, ultimately when I was lying on the bed I listed the things he had done and said 'fuck you' . Mainly because I know he dislikes this and I wanted at this point to end the relationship. But I actually provoked him into grabbing me by the leg, dragging me off the bed from a lying position, and dropping me on the floor. My back is very bruised as I was basically dropped from a height. I think he meant to drag me off the bed but not actually drag me and drop me with the massive force he did, but either way it is of course awful and I am still in pain in my back.

I cannot believe I am writing this and I have not broken up with him. But he is saying
-It is the worst thing he has ever done and the worst mistake of his life and he will spend the rest of his life trying to make it up to me
-He was very drunk although he knows this is no excuse. He says he will never again drink to excess
-Doing this terrible thing has made something switch inside him and he has realised all the ways he was treating me before was disgusting and he knows he needs to change as a person and will never, ever make me feel terrified again

  • He has been reading Lundy Bancroft and other resources since then and quoting them back to me and apologising constantly. He says he wants to be a better man and internalise these messages and actually change
  • He wept and begged for forgiveness all night and the next day
-He says his perception of himself as a person has been shattered, he has done something he will hate himself for forever -He wants to spend forever making me feel as loved as I deserve so this is just the most distant memory-- a horrible memory but one we have got past -He talked about the abusiveness in his childhood

He has done a fucking terrible and awful thing. I know that. My back is still bruised and the memory of the rage on his face and the fear in my stomach is still fresh. I have told no one as I want to give him a chance after everything he has said to me. I am so in love and now he is saying he will do all the right things and begging for another chance to prove this. Saying things like I will start being the man you deserve and haven't had from this moment. But... everything I've ever read says, they don't change, you can't trust an abuser to change, etc. Is it ever possible? Is it always madness to give someone a chance after an assault like this?

OP posts:
Summerswallow · 12/07/2017 11:31

I am very glad to read your update. The fact he is a doctor means nothing in terms of ensuring you are not abused. If anything, it's worse, he's supposed to know how to protect and look out for abused individuals. It wasn't even a 'one off', it was lots and lots of emotional abuse, coupled with a night of a series of physical assaults which had you reported them, would have seen him struck off as a doctor.

Hope your mum and friends are there right behind you, well done. You are free of this man. He should carry a warning sign.

40andFat · 12/07/2017 11:32

If you love him leave him and he may have a chance to change realising what he has done and how he has lost someone he loves. If you stay you are subconsciously showing him that there is a chance if he did it again you'd forgive him, you did once you might again.
You have no ties imagine a child witnessing what you described or having a daughter and her going through it what would be your advice to her.
Just tell your Mum it will give you the strength to end it. Your not alone so many people have been in your position and the 1 percent chance he may change will not be with you. It's too late sorry Confused

40andFat · 12/07/2017 11:34

Sorry missed that post, now keep strong as you will get every bit of emotional baggage. Let others protect you keep telling them your not to blame. Amazing to read you've been strong Smile

AttilaTheMeerkat · 12/07/2017 11:34

Fraises,

I was also pleased to read your update.

Resist all his efforts now to try and pull you back into his web. Now he will really start ramping up all his promises to change so you need to block him and keep him blocked. He won't likely accept this from you at all quietly.

bibliomania · 12/07/2017 11:35

Well done, OP!

You might well have a wobble in the next few weeks and days and wonder if you've over-reacted. What helped me was writing down all everything I could remember about the abuse and re-reading it when I felt the tug of missing him. Also, spend time with people who love you - let them remind you how real love means never ever descending into abuse.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 12/07/2017 11:41

Oh you brave, strong woman. Now look forward to your fantastic future.

SeekingSugar · 12/07/2017 11:41

Can I just say that you are NOT in love. This is nothing like love. And you will never know true love until you have long removed yourself from this sort of appalling excuse for a relationship.

fanfrickintastic · 12/07/2017 11:42

It does very occasionally happen once HOWEVER that is only when it is not accompanied by emotional abuse prior to the event of physical abuse.

When there is emotional abuse involved as you have described (or any other abuse) it is almost certainly a recurring event.

cestlavielife · 12/07/2017 12:12

Well done
Now get away
Go to a different gp
Report to police

His problem

petitesassygirl · 12/07/2017 12:31

fraises,

Is a fear of him also stopping you here from leaving him?. Abuse as well also thrives on secrecy.

Its only a matter of time before he beats you again or puts you in hospital or worse still the morgue. Do not think he is not capable of doing such a thing to you. He to date has been testing your boundaries to see how much you will put up with from him. He does not love you; he does not know the meaning of the word. And for that matter nor do you because what you describe here is an abusive relationship in many of its manifestations. All your words are those of an abused woman and you are very much still in the cycle of abuse. That is also a continuous cycle.

I think you were targeted and deliberately so by this man because he saw something in you that he can and has indeed fully exploited to his own ends. You may for instance be totally at one with yourself and confident in your work life but in your personal life your self worth and esteem may be far lower. He honed in on that and your innate vulnerabilities to bash you over the head with, he wants to bring you down with him into his pit. He will destroy you totally because he hates you along with all women and his mother.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up, was your own childhood also a sheltered one?.

He should not be reading Lundy Bancroft either (it also says in that publication that its not for abusers to read); he will use that knowledge gleaned from that publication to further control and manipulate you. Indeed he has also done that.

Your love for him is more likely than not based on some unhealthy codependency or the hope against your own experience to date that he will change one day. He won't; this is who he really is. His own family background is dysfunctional and you probably on some level want to rescue and or save him. This man hates women, all of them starting with his own mother and seeing you in that same light. He honestly feels he has done nothing wrong here.

Do get your injuries as well properly documented by the GP and call Womens Aid.

This!!!! Such wise words from Attila!

PlymouthMaid1 · 12/07/2017 12:41

Well done Fraise - good luck with the new job x

gratefulmum17 · 12/07/2017 12:56

Hi this is Fraises mum here, Just wanted to say thank you to all you amazing supportive women who have given my wonderful daughter such brilliant advice, xxxxx

Pestilentialone · 12/07/2017 12:58

Well done Fraise
Concentrate on you and settling into your new job. This one is going to hurt for a while. Lean on your mum and friends for a while, they will be glad to see the real you back.

leavethelighton · 12/07/2017 13:32

Well done Fraises - don't have much to add to this thread except to say how strong and inspirational you are. Best of luck with everything!

snowdancer · 12/07/2017 13:38

Well done Fraise & now get on with making the rest of your life wonderful.
And to you and your mum, stay safe, both of you.

Onedaysoooon · 12/07/2017 14:01

Hope she will be ok fraise's mum.

bibliomania · 12/07/2017 14:05

Hi Fraise's mum, it's great that she has your support.

gratefulmum17 · 12/07/2017 14:21

I am so proud of her for seeking advice here, then for telling me and for having the strength to end this now before it's too late.

We (her family) are so angry and upset for her and will do our best to look after her while she heals. Thank you everyone who posted and helped her.

BertrandRussell · 12/07/2017 14:31

Gratefulmum-my dd is also in the process-I hope-of getting out of an abusive relationship. I think supporting her has been the hardest and most painful thing I have ever experienced. All my love and best wishes to you and your dd- and hoping that all four of us will look back at this next year from a safe and happy future.

joannegrady90 · 12/07/2017 14:36

I'd leave someone just for calling me a cunt!
Pushing me and shouting/swearing at me! They'd only do it the once, do be out of there.

joannegrady90 · 12/07/2017 14:37

Ah just seen the update- good luck op!

NameChange30 · 12/07/2017 14:38

grateful and Bertrand
Your daughters are lucky to have you. Flowers to you all

Pestilentialone · 12/07/2017 14:47

grateful this is the first ever thread to bring a tear to my eye, give Fraise a massive hug from all of us.

hellsbellsmelons · 12/07/2017 14:54

Wow - well done Fraise
You have saved yourself years and years of abuse and excuses.
So glad you have a lovely mum to support you through it as well.
I watched this play out with my DSis.
It was only going to be once, he was so so sorry, wanted to change, blah blah blah...
We had to basically rescue her one day and she never looked back.
Although it seriously messed her up, and I don't believe she's ever fully recovered and this was 20+ years ago.
You've done yourself such a massive favour, I can't even begin to tell you.
Be kind to yourself.

Newymcnewname · 12/07/2017 14:57

OP....Flowers
Leave. Please.

I've namechanged out of shame tbh, but wanted to share with you.

My dh was ea, I had no idea, being so young at the time. For about 4 years, with physical abuse coming slowly. Until one day, feeling desperate after a whole day of little digs I snapped. He'd smacked me in the forehead and I pushed him as a gut reaction. He fell and I immediate regretted it. He got up and kicked and punched me as I curled into a ball to protect myself. That was it for a while, the ea continued and I got more and more depressed and he made me think I was going nuts, literally, would tell me I was. We had one dc at the time. I had an emotional affair, short, but it made me feel human and like a normal person. I ended it but he found out and punched me in the face. My parents didnt help and I had nobody else so I stayed. I was 21 by then.

Then one day he had an epiphany. He'd been depressed. He'd acted awfully. He couldn't believe what he'd done etc.

I left and went back, was pregnant again. He wanted me to terminate but I refused. Had to take a paternity test before he would even look at her. It was miserable as fuck.

The ea stopped, the physical abuse stopped and has stayed stopped for about 7years. I do still worry, I do still fear something will set him off.

No he hasn't done anything in a long time bit thinking back to specific incidents the sadness is still there, they still make me cry if I thought about them. We are happy now, things are great but do I think the slog in the meantime was worth it?

No.