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Physical abuse/domestic violence - can it ever really happen just once?

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FraisesFramboises · 11/07/2017 22:17

DP has been treating me awfully over the last few weeks/months and showing elements of emotional abuse in his behaviour (see previous thread-- I said I was going to break up with him, but I did not). But he had never done anything even approaching physical until Friday night when we had an argument based on him again not treating me respectfully.

During this he pushed me several times onto a bed (I stood up and pushed back to show him how it felt in an act of defence but other than that didn't touch him). He also punched a light, said I was acting like a 'fucking bitch' and 'cunt'. He knocked/slapped my phone out of my hand, banged it against the wall three times, (I wasn't drunk but he was, and I was trying to write down the horrible abusive things he was saying as a record for the next day to show him). Much worse than all this, ultimately when I was lying on the bed I listed the things he had done and said 'fuck you' . Mainly because I know he dislikes this and I wanted at this point to end the relationship. But I actually provoked him into grabbing me by the leg, dragging me off the bed from a lying position, and dropping me on the floor. My back is very bruised as I was basically dropped from a height. I think he meant to drag me off the bed but not actually drag me and drop me with the massive force he did, but either way it is of course awful and I am still in pain in my back.

I cannot believe I am writing this and I have not broken up with him. But he is saying
-It is the worst thing he has ever done and the worst mistake of his life and he will spend the rest of his life trying to make it up to me
-He was very drunk although he knows this is no excuse. He says he will never again drink to excess
-Doing this terrible thing has made something switch inside him and he has realised all the ways he was treating me before was disgusting and he knows he needs to change as a person and will never, ever make me feel terrified again

  • He has been reading Lundy Bancroft and other resources since then and quoting them back to me and apologising constantly. He says he wants to be a better man and internalise these messages and actually change
  • He wept and begged for forgiveness all night and the next day
-He says his perception of himself as a person has been shattered, he has done something he will hate himself for forever -He wants to spend forever making me feel as loved as I deserve so this is just the most distant memory-- a horrible memory but one we have got past -He talked about the abusiveness in his childhood

He has done a fucking terrible and awful thing. I know that. My back is still bruised and the memory of the rage on his face and the fear in my stomach is still fresh. I have told no one as I want to give him a chance after everything he has said to me. I am so in love and now he is saying he will do all the right things and begging for another chance to prove this. Saying things like I will start being the man you deserve and haven't had from this moment. But... everything I've ever read says, they don't change, you can't trust an abuser to change, etc. Is it ever possible? Is it always madness to give someone a chance after an assault like this?

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BertrandRussell · 12/07/2017 15:01

"Pushing me and shouting/swearing at me! They'd only do it the once,"

My dd would have said the same. In fact she did say the same. But it's not as easy as that. She left him 3 times-and went back, believing his promises. Because abusive men can be incredibly plausible, and often when the relationship is good, it can be amazing. My dd said to me on Sunday "The really fucked up thing is that it's him that's made me feel like shit, but I know that if he was here could comfort me and make me feel wonderful faster than anyone else" It's bvery complicated.

Pestilentialone · 12/07/2017 15:17

Very true Bertand It is always very complicated.

TinklyLittleLaugh · 12/07/2017 15:52

God, as the mother of young women, this is my biggest fear for my daughters, having seen my bastard of a BiL reduce my bright and beautiful sister to an absolute shell.

I am obsessive about red flags, about controlling behaviour. I'm not entirely convinced DD1's boyfriend is not a wrong un. I don't think he'd hit her but he's so depressive and begrudging of her enjoying life, I think it could be construed as emotional abuse. But she loves him and wants to help him Hmm

Hedgehogparty · 12/07/2017 16:42

Please just read these comments.
You are at serious risk if you choose to stay with this man.
It will only get worse

becotide · 12/07/2017 16:44

He;s already abusive, this is just the first time he's hit you. You don't even have any kids with him yet - and kids make thins WORSE, no matter what is promised.

Just leave. You don't have to put up with a shitty relationship. You deserve better. EVERYONE deserves better.

gluteustothemaximus · 12/07/2017 16:48

Fab update OP, bloody well done. And hello OP's mum

Boy I wish my mother had helped me. She actually enjoyed my daily phone calls for help, but offered none.

So good to see support for you. What a great day Smile

Stay strong Flowers

RockyBird · 12/07/2017 16:50

(no children + not married) x abusive arse = run for the hills

All the best OP Flowers

WokeUpSmeltTheCoffee · 12/07/2017 16:56

OP- it's really great that you have ended this.

Can I ask that you consider reporting this abusive man to the Police and to the GMC?

I know that it would be very hard but a man who is capable of repeatedly assaulting you and bruising you should not be practising as a Dr with access and power over lots of vulnerable people.

It would actually be the best thing for him to bear the full consequences of his behaviour. It's maybe the only way he will change. It will force him to do serious work not just cry and say he's sorry. Otherwise the likeliest thing is that he does it again to someone else.

I say this because I was sexually assaulted by a GP whilst on a work placement. He was later struck off but, to my shame, not for what he did to me as I never reported it but for breaking his wife's leg.

I firmly believe that these bastards rarely if ever only do it once.

WokeUpSmeltTheCoffee · 12/07/2017 17:08

BTW the GMC would not necessarily strike him off (I think they are very lenient on abusive men myself) He would probably get suspended. But if he wanted his job back he would need to do relevant course, therapy and reflection in writing. It would force him to make the changes that he needs to.

If he gets a conviction or accepts a police caution he has to report it to the GMC and that's unequivocal evidence of misconduct so you don't have to go through a separate process or anything.

Iamok0303 · 12/07/2017 17:44

Believe that you are entitled to be loved. This is not love. It may feel like it but believe me it's more to do with attachment and codependency, and the believe you can change things if you say the right thing, act there right way, figure him out, just merely going step by step thinking you are ahead after each episode of abuse. It will be covert so to confuse you, keep you in the net for longer, you will be love bombed to make sure you believe him and won't leave, yet. Then it gets bad. The police will be involved and in the end all that remains of you is a shadow of the person you once were. A huge hug to you. Take a deep breath and make sure you have a plan b.

dustmotesinthesun · 12/07/2017 20:50

Well done you. Really. I know it isn't easy. Brilliant you confided in your mum. It gets harder to believe all the apologies if you've talked it through with someone else who wants more for you than being abused.

You will waver. There might be times when he seems so very, very sorry and seems to be working hard to change. I'd say if you are ever tempted, agree to give yourself a year before you make any decision about going back. Because by then this will all seem a distant memory and you'll be better able to really take care of yourself and tell him where to go. The scales will have fallen from your eyes. Remember the apologies are a script. He feels sorry for himself, not for you. Love is not hurting your partner or intimidating them or scaring them. Love is getting help if you know you have a problem before it does damage to someone else.

One day at a time and please plan lots of treats to keep yourself busy and moving forward. And don't feel ashamed. Anyone can get sucked in by an abuser however clever or successful they are. I'm incredibly clever and it happened to me Wink You'll be ok.

mygorgeousmilo · 12/07/2017 21:05

Best update that we could all have hoped for. We're all on your side. Onwards and upwards, you have a future full of love ahead of you Flowers

FraisesFramboises · 12/07/2017 22:11

Thank you so much everyone. Haven't been able to bring myself to come back on here today but I will re-read your wise messages if I even slightly falter. I have told everyone at work as well and my friends so there is no way I can go back now. I keep picturing how if we had a child I would never trust him with them, and it's a scary enough thought to keep me ignoring his texts.
Thank you x

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FraisesFramboises · 12/07/2017 22:11

Feeling stronger but I know I will feel weaker again at other times. But at least I have made it so I can't go back.

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tribpot · 12/07/2017 22:19

I suggest you block his number - knowing that the texts are arriving and having to ignore them keeps you 'inside' the relationship when you should be outside it.

BertrandRussell · 12/07/2017 22:27

Fraises- it's very hard, but block his texts, fb-anything you can. You need to "detox" now for at least a month- you won't be able to think clearly at all unless you do that. Take it a day at a time- you will get there.......

FraisesFramboises · 12/07/2017 22:32

Thanks guys for the advice. I don't think I can bring myself to press charges but I will threaten it if he bothers me.
I have just blocked number though- thanks x

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Giraffey1 · 12/07/2017 23:01

How brilliant and brave of you. And what a fab mum and family you have there supporting you. Come back and read this his bread whenever you are feeling wobbly and it will help you!

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