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The Dating Thread 119 | Summer days, drifting away...

999 replies

pringlecat · 27/06/2017 08:51

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  1. If it's not fun, stop.
  2. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread.
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Allthembuckets · 01/07/2017 13:39

My experience tends to be there isn't any fame playing in LTRs as DD says.

earthangel I'd be tempted not to bother with Mr Irish! I also dislike lying, whether it's on purpose or not but I'm not sure my boundaries are right!

elmleaves · 01/07/2017 14:02

Hello,
Would you mind if I join you? I have recently found myself to be unexpectedly single, not sure I'm ready for dating quite yet but thought it might be quite good to follow everyone's stories and get some hints and advice along the way.
A little about me:
Female, late thirties, 2 x dc, long time MN lurker, a bit shy so please don't be offended if I don't post too much, I will be quietly cheering everyone on in the background!
The biggest thing for me is I have never been on a date before! I tend not to find men attractive until I know them so not sure online dating will work for me but not sure I have many other options? Anyone similar that has tried online dating already? How do you choose who to chat to?

pringlecat · 01/07/2017 16:33

elmleaves I know what you mean. I find personality can make a man hugely more or less attractive, and it's hard to get that to come out when just talking behind a screen. I also really like certain accents, and you don't get that either.

In my case, I'll read profiles to see if there's anything we have in common (e.g. could we spend meaningful time together down the line or we would just bore each other because we have very different hobbies?) and I'll filter out people who have crap English. For me, typos are a real turn off, so it's another filter. I like my men to have a good grasp of the English language - that's much more of a big deal to me than how much they earn. I'd rather date a badly paid man who could write correctly than a banker who talks in txtspk and puts random apostrophes in words.

Movingon1611 Well done for surviving the first date! Yes, I think many of us are guilty for checking our phones when out with old friends, but on a first date? You're trying to impress. You actively shouldn't do that, it is rude.

Queenofthedrivensnow As much as I hate POF, it's where I ultimately get the most dates and I keep coming back to it. There are more shit people to filter out, but it's got the biggest pool to fish in.

YellowAardvark I feel a bit friendzoney with Mr Nice Mr Pen Pal. I think if you're genuinely feeling friend-zoned, time to get a new iron.

LanaDReye Bant There's a question about when you expect to sleep with someone on OKCupid. Every single profile I have seen has said by the 3rd date. I appreciate the honesty, but it has put me off every single guy I've seen on that site. When someone walks out on you mid-date on the third date because you refuse to go home with them and everyone on OKCupid expects third date sex, it kinda rules out everyone on that site for me...

I refuse to sleep with anyone until/unless I know them properly. With a complete stranger, I can't see that happening after only 3 dates. Part of it is wanting to know they won't shag and ghost, but practically, what happens if something goes wrong and you end up pregnant? I don't want my only way of getting in touch to be a phone number that might not even be a proper phone number... I want to know the man's full name, where he lives, where he works, who he really is... And 3 dates is too soon for all that info. Unless your starting point is he was an existing friend, then you already have that background and can relax a bit.

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LanaDReye · 01/07/2017 18:42

Bant sorry I meant that I shared your perspective, as in I think it would be ok for a man not to answer questions about sex too. Unfortunately the questions are there to now be ignored .

I tend to dtd early on if I think there could be longevity, but through my decision and with the knowledge that it may end. If in doubt I deflect onto safer ground, like going for walks or talking about films. I don't mind being considered prudish by men I am not sure about.

Pringle is the Spaniard in contact?

pringlecat · 01/07/2017 18:48

LanaDReye We exchanged a jokey message on Friday morning. I think it's on me to suggest a second date anyway from the way things were left.

I'm seeing Mr PT tomorrow afternoon. If it's a car crash, I'll probably message the Spaniard for another date. I almost don't want to suggest anything until I know I'm not interested in Mr PT.

I've just checked his profile again. He's 7 inches taller me (the Spaniard was only 1 inch taller). Comfy heels it is. How do I always forget height?

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LanaDReye · 01/07/2017 19:19

Pringle I create a list with columns when I'm writing to multiples: Name, occupation, kids ages, height, hair colour, and good or bad points mentioned. I can write to 7-8 at a time without making fundamental errors, but I can still be in shock about the difference in person to my imagination when we meet. I copy and paste mesages about general points and questions too. It takes someone interesting to really get my focus like mention scifi or seafood Grin

I always expect people to be more like me, in mannerisms and outlook. Do we all do that?

LanaDReye · 01/07/2017 19:25

...I think you should arrange a second date with the Spaniard ASAP and stick to it unless MrPT is amazing. Keep your options open!

pringlecat · 01/07/2017 19:48

LanaDReye I don't write lists, but I think you chat to more people than me, so it's a good idea. I don't know where you get your stamina from! Just talking to lots of men is exhausting. The Spaniard has actually just got back in touch - he's clearly angling for a second date. I might have a think about where and when, because we did say I'd choose somewhere. And he's fun.

I'm a little disappointed Mr Snow dropped out after a strong start, but I'm not chasing him. New personal rule - I am the prize and if anyone dips in enthusiasm, I'm not chasing them. I think that's fair. I don't play games, so in exchange, they have to want to spend time with me or I'll drop them quickly.

Mr Outdoorsy is busy the next few days so neither of us has pushed it, which is a bit of a relief, because I felt he was a bit overly keen and I started to go off him physically very quickly. I'm now thinking that if I'm relieved to not see him and I'm running out of things to say to him, I'm losing interest...

I don't feel I can meet Mr Pen Pal. I just find talking to him a chore. He is really sweet, but I want to want to spend time with someone.

I've gone from tons of irons to just two in the space of a week - which makes sense given my personality. I'm not naturally a multi dater. I mean, I need to be, that's how this game works, but I have to really try to keep up with it.

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pringlecat · 01/07/2017 20:10

OK, so Mr PT on Sunday and the Spaniard for round two on Tuesday. I'm in the game...

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Lovemusic33 · 01/07/2017 20:37

Pringle slightly jealous that you can fit in so many dates, itsbern just over a week since my first date with Mr Surf and we haven't got another date planed until almost 2 weeks time, neither of us have free time ( or he's not trying very hard to make time ). I don't really have many other irons. Popped on and off of POF the last few days and only had ' hello sexy' type messages. Feeling a bit fed up with it all. Summer holidays are looming which means no chance of any dates as no child care.

pringlecat · 01/07/2017 20:42

Lovemusic33 Work has been manic lately, but just calmed down, so I can make time if I really want to. Difficult if both of you need to find childcare... Hmm, maybe there's a Dragons Den idea here for affordable evening soft play whilst kids are supervised for an hour whilst their grown ups have a coffee date and collect them from different exits so the kids never know who their parents are seeing...

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elmleaves · 01/07/2017 20:55

Pringlecat thanks for the advice. You sound quite similar to me so when I finally pluck up the courage to actually join a site I will remember what you have said (probably in 2 years).

pringlecat · 01/07/2017 21:08

elmleaves The first date is the worst date. Once you go on a first date - with anyone - you get over the fear. Then you realise it's just about meeting as many new people as possible until you click with one of them and they feel the same.

I'd recommend POF. OKCupid in my opinion is full of men who want sex early on (and if you're feeling nervous about OLD, I don't think that's what you want) and Bumble is - I think anyway - a nicer version of Tinder, but Tinder all the same.

Join POF, have a look around, find a couple of interesting people who convince you it's worth filling out your profile properly and add a few photos etc. Just don't use any photos you already have out there in the public domain like social media (especially LinkedIn!) because then a reverse image search can identify you.

Read the rules at the start of this thread often. Re-read them. Online dating can do weird things to your confidence, good and bad. Keep reading those rules and keep posting here. You'll find the lovely people on this thread help keep you from going too insane. Smile

Most posters are female, but we have a couple of regular male posters and I find it helps having a different perspective from time to time, even if I don't agree with it. I think we all help ground each other, even though we all hope to never chat to each other again - because if someone disappears from this thread through finding a lovely partner, that's a great thing.

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elmleaves · 01/07/2017 22:14

Thank you for being so lovely pringleSmile (sorry I don't really say much, hopefully I'll say more when I relax into the thread a bitBlush)

pringlecat · 01/07/2017 22:18

elmleaves Chat or lurk as much as you want. We're always here if you want to discuss something or weigh in and offer an opinion on someone else's situation. There's enough pressure with dating sites to behave in a certain way; this thread is for support!

You'll know when you're ready to dip your toe into online dating for the first time. And we'll be here when you do it, if you want some hand holding, general advice or cheerleading. Smile

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LanaDReye · 01/07/2017 22:48

Pringle two upcoming dates is good going. They're in the finals position now!

I'm not sure if I have a high level of stamina towards this. I think it's more that I am trying to see OLD as a practical process. I have to move between fairly practical roles at work and the overall goal moves me forward rather than finishing one part of work. I feel a bit cold saying that towards dating, even worse when I say I don't remember the names of most of the men I've dated this year.

I enjoyed ripping up my list yesterday as definitely just seeing Mr Cook for now. That and my last date with him felt more real and less like work.

pringlecat · 01/07/2017 23:01

LanaDReye Being a bit cold at the start is the smart thing to do, though. So many times have I over invested in a man after just one date or two dates. I feel like I'm getting better at this, but my natural inclination is to see every first date as the potential start of a forever relationship. I should see it for what it is - a very short meeting with no obligations on either side.

Glad to hear things are going well with Mr Cook. Smile

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Smeaton · 01/07/2017 23:38

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minop · 02/07/2017 00:49

Another disaster from me!
I got to date 4 with a guy, all really good dates, meal 1st, cinema 2nd, walk on 3rd, all going really well, no red flags and then he was running late for a date at mine tonight after two hours of excuses of why he kept getting delayed I said we'd call it off tonight. He then text to say the real reason is he's addicted to drugs and his marriage broke down because of it. He's still using and is off to rehab in a few weeks!!!
God I know how to pick them!
I really feel like I'm doing something wrong, I didn't see any signs
I have shocking taste in men

DivorceDating · 02/07/2017 08:31

Am I just a prude these days? Do the majority of guys seem to want to get dirty or at least innuendo-y on chat with you OLD?

Is it too much to hope for normal conversation, at least at first? Does this mean I need to abandon and block them?

One guy is so lovely and interesting and sweet then suddenly says his ex cheated on him and broke his heart but it's ok as he kind of gets off on thinking about it..... FFS.

Then messaged me talking about a lovely day it with his parents and conversation seems normal again then throws in 'I might come round to join you tonight' when I said I was home watching tv. Is this normal now? To ask or joke about coming round to the home of someone you haven't even seen in the flesh?? Am I just old and out of touch with how things work now????

Lovemusic33 · 02/07/2017 08:40

minop at least he was honest and told you, usually my irons go this way too (they have something major going on) but they don't tell me.

I'm feeling really frustrated this morning, it's my day off work, I haven't had MB for ages and Mr Surf is busy (or on a rest day), I was going to arrange to meet Mr local but after viewing his Fb page I have changed my mind, he looks totally different from his profile photo and looks like he goes on the piss most nights.

I am desperate to get Mr Surf into bed 😉 But as he keeps saying 'no rush' I don't think it will happen and I don't know how long I can wait, he seems to be genuine and does seem to be busy, we could have met yesterday but I had my dc's and couldn't get child care. I don't think I can wait 2 weeks until we are both free. I have played it really cool with him, no dirty texts, all pretty relaxed but text each other every day and occasionally talk on the phone, a part of me wants to send him a message to tell him how atractive he is but that will make me sound desperate? He's not easy to text (takes a while to reply so hard to have a conversation).

So, another weekend with not date or MB, looks like a day of gardening and sorting my house out just in case one day a man might come to my house.

I have hidden my POF profile for a few days, I wanted to get rid of it completely but I know I will change my mind. The only problem with me hiding it is Mr Surf can still see when I'm online?

Lovemusic33 · 02/07/2017 08:43

Divorce it does seem to be the norm, Mr local is a bit like that, can talk about normal every day things and then suddenly throws in a few dirty messages 'can't wait to get my hands on you' Hmm, seems to be like this with most men. I had a few messages from a fireman yesterday and he was the same, after a few messages I got fed up and ignored him.

LanaDReye · 02/07/2017 09:19

Mimop at least you know it's just him and not you. If he had ghosted you, you may have blamed something that you said or did. Still it's tough when there looked like promise.

LM he could see you today but hasn't, things seem to be going slowly - physically and text-wise. I don't see why you are hiding your profile I would carry on looking .

DD crude messages don't work for me either a real turn off . I like comments about intimacy and romance in a "I find you attractive or I miss hugging and kissing" type of way, but wouldn't want to hear about a man's ex!

Smeaton · 02/07/2017 09:23

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Lovemusic33 · 02/07/2017 09:53

Lana I'm hiding it because I'm just tired of the whole process, the endless 'hi sexy' type messages, I have had 10+ messages this week but all the same Sad. I just need a break from it. Yes, I would like to see Mr Surf again and I'm a bit anoyed that things can't move a bit faster but mainly because I want to see what things are like after a few dates and if it's a no go I can move on.

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