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The Dating Thread 119 | Summer days, drifting away...

999 replies

pringlecat · 27/06/2017 08:51

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
7. You are the prize - they should be trying to impress you.
  1. If it's not fun, stop.
  2. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread.
OP posts:
Jonsnowsghost · 26/07/2017 08:09

Thanks @LanaDReye sorry to hear about yours too. I think I'll have a bit of a break as it's kind of knocked me a bit. I'll just keep lurking on here and seeing what you're all up to :)

mummyretired · 26/07/2017 09:46

Hello all ... I've been lurking for a while and just joined POF now I've been separated for some time. Any hints on how to stop the random inappropriate first messages? I have my photo on my profile and am beginning to feel rather intimidated, although tbf it's not crude enough to be reportable.

elmleaves · 26/07/2017 10:17

I have come to hunker down for the day on the thread as I seem to be having the same experience as most other people on here - nothing to report!
What percentage of messages lead to a chat for you?
I'm just not finding anyone attractive :(
I am wondering if I am doing something wrong? I have sent some messages but no replies which doesn't really bother me other than the thought I must be messaging people out of my leagueBlush
I would have liked to have been able to chat to even one person I wpuld be faintly interested in.
I haven't had any dodgy messages though- yaaaaay!

elmleaves · 26/07/2017 10:18

Hi mummyretired

elmleaves · 26/07/2017 10:19

I'm new so can't help with the dodgy messages - I haven't had any! I feel left out now haha!

AntiGrinch · 26/07/2017 10:47

Hi everyone!

The stuff some people are saying here about POF chimes with me. I haven't been on there long enough to say I keep seeing the same old faces, but honestly.... there isn't much to get enthused about. I've been approached by a couple of barely literate men - not sure if their speaking would be as bad as their writing, but just really dreadfully charmless inarticulate non-sentences. I don't know whether there are amazing men on there whom I'm not seeing, but I can't imagine wanting to spend any significant amount of time with the people I am seeing.

So: tinder. What is the etiquette for closing an exchange down? One person just unmatched me instantly when I basically didn't agree to have casual sex the first time we met. I didn't mind that as it didn't feel like any loss to me! Can I do that with men I'm realising I'm not interested in? Or should I sort of nicely close it down?

There is one man on there who is just sort of barking questions at me. I don't think there is anything sinister about him, it just feels like a horribly socially stunted way to attempt conversation and I'm bored of him. Can I just unmatch?

There is another guy who basically very charmingly suggested a casual sex hook up. I know that for some of you that's really not what you're looking for.... I was wondering whether there are any posters on here who would entertain that idea or is everyone strictly looking for a relationship? He's articulate, friendly and funny. I have no way of finding out if he is safe though, honestly that's the only thing that's bothering me (no morals)...

ShatnersWig · 26/07/2017 10:58

Grinch Having been back on POF since the start of last weekend, I have messaged three women, none of whom messaged back. Those were literally the only ones in a 50-mile radius whom I thought were possible matches in terms of attractiveness and mutual interests. I've received two messages from women, sadly our profiles don't match in the slightest other than age.

In terms of Tinder.... well, I find that a total washout but in answer to your question, yes I would entertain the idea of a casual hook up or a friends with benefit situation if that came about. I would prefer a relationship but being bluntly honest, I've been single 7 years and would like to know if my equipment still works! We all have itches we need to scratch and human touch is important.

AntiGrinch · 26/07/2017 11:20

yes, and in my case I've been single for a year but sexless for ages before that and I honestly think it would be a healthy thing to do with a friendly, safe person even if they are never going to be a boyfriend. the thing is how do you know its safe? Where do you go? I'm not inviting him here but I'm not sure about going to a stranger's house either

ShatnersWig · 26/07/2017 11:27

Grinch Yes, the last couple of years of my relationship was sexless so almost a decade now. God that sounds hideous written down. Actually, I'm lying, I had a very very brief fling six months after the end of my relationship so it's a 6.5 year drought. Still rubbish. I suppose a hotel might be an option if you don't want to go to each other's houses if you were both happy to split the bill?

nina2b · 26/07/2017 11:32

You should start a mumsnet dating site.

NoBloodyMore · 26/07/2017 12:12

Afternoon All,

I've been single on and off for about 18 months, was in a bit of a causal relationship for part of it but been properly single for about 3 months now.

Joined POF and Tinder and to be fair I've been on about 8 dates, all ok but none had that extra chemistry, is it unrealistic to expect that from a first date?

I seem to pick completely inappropriate ones, I went on 3 dates at weekend and the only one I want to see again is the 28 year old childless one, I'm 34 with 3 kids!

I'm hoping there comes a point when I start to be attracted to the sensible ones but for now I have date 2 organised with my Mr Inappropriate this weekend.

myteadontlie · 26/07/2017 12:56

I have read through most parts of this thread and decided to say hello, too!
It's amazing how many of the situations and how much of your experience resonate with me haha!
I have been single for almost 5 years. Only recently out of quite unofficial FwB/Friendship situation that left me in pieces, but hey, life goes on! I survived marriage ending so will survive this one, too.

Anyway, back to OLD. In the past I have been on match, pof, recently I downloaded tinder and then bumble. And deleted them pretty soon Grin.
I cannot get over the fact how similar all these profiles are! Most men I find attractive enough (and not being picky) seem to be into 1) cycling/running/skiing/rat races 2) travel around the world 3) have kids who 'are their world' 4) have gym/bathroom selfies, often with six packs or other shirtless pictures proudly displayed 5) compulsory 'night out with mates' pictures where most of them obviously look like they have it all in life.

Now, I am open minded and I am sure that a number of these profiles/men are genuine and good blokes, so I did message some of them if something caught my eye in description. Something that shows similar interest, joking side or values similar to mine. But on the other hand these profiles make me wonder - why do people feel such pressure to prove they have 'interesting' life? Yes, I agree that travelling broadens your horizons, being educated is great and usually is a guarantee you will have more topics for discussion. But! At the end of the day, when people talk, they either get on or not, they either click or not, and it has much more to do with what they are like and what they believe in, and how open they are to broaden their experience and share it with someone than if they have 'lifestyle' commonly considered to be 'interesting'.

Also, it can be intimidating for lovely people, who maybe haven't had the chance or are at different life stage to have some of these experiences at this very moment, IYSWIM.

And one more matter age and looks. I am almost 40, so I would think it's reasonable to talk to people aged 35-45. However, I get messages from guys way older than me... which does not make sense, as realistically it just has very low chances of working out!

Lookswise - I am considered to be 'pretty' but I am a bigger girl, size 18/20, tall. Never hide it, I do have fairly accurate and would say nice pictures. I look younger than my age, rather natural and dress well, do my nails and makeup but all within limits of looking natural, certainly not a doll type with fake eyelashes and tan... and in the past I heard compliments from men that this is actually the sort of feminine looks they like. I appreciate that some men prefer more 'done' women, but sometimes I am thinking maybe I should just try harder haha!
I received a message from a guy once, saying: Sorry, I don't do fatties :O. And I thought wtf!
Are you all here pretty and dead attractive, regular gym and beauty parlours goers here? How come normal people form relationships then lol?

AntiGrinch · 26/07/2017 13:30

"Are you all here pretty and dead attractive, regular gym and beauty parlours goers here? How come normal people form relationships then lol?"
I ask myself this!
I swipe left on Tinder on all shirtless shots, not because I don't like men's chests ;) but because I can't see myself really clicking with the kind of man who thinks his chest is the most important thing about him.

I might have rejected my soul mate by taking this route, of course.

When I started thinking about online dating, I thought I should do careful hair and makeup and do some careful selfies. Then, partly because I couldn't be arsed, I didn't and put up very natural shots that I already had, obviously all taken in real life by another real life person. The real reason I did this wasn't just that I couldn't be arsed staging a tragic photo shoot by myself, but also because I have NEVER done this and if a man thinks I am that sort of person (whether he likes that sort of person or not) he is getting the wrong impression of me. And I'm not looking for a man who does that either.

Here are the things that really put me off a man on Tinder (where the initial photo is all):

No face (married?)
Bare chest (see above)
Only photos taken by self, indoors, grim looking claustrophobic bathrooms
Only photos being a drunken arse with 6 other men (which even is he?) (To give the benefit of the doubt to these ones, they are probably the only shots he has, taken on nights out, because he isn't a tragic poser who's always photographing himself, but still I think he should get his mate to take a photo of him sober in natural light)
Any photos taken near Star Wars paraphernalia with great, grinning pride
Anyone (this is TOTALLY unfair!) using the same first name as my ex (I might have to rethink this one as no way is it justifiable)

ShatnersWig · 26/07/2017 13:33

  1. cycling/running/skiing/rat races
  2. travel around the world
  3. have kids who 'are their world'
  4. have gym/bathroom selfies, often with six packs or other shirtless pictures proudly displayed
  5. compulsory 'night out with mates' pictures where most of them obviously look like they have it all in life.

I never did any of these on my profiles years ago and nor on my recent new profile. Clearly, I must just look like the Elephant Man's lesser-known cousin Smile

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ShatnersWig · 26/07/2017 14:21

Jenny You've made four postings on MN in a few months. Two of them promoting that site (in fact that same precise wording) and a third promoting some online game. As 95% of us are in the UK, that's about as useful as a chocolate teapot assuming you exist.

LanaDReye · 26/07/2017 16:53

Jenny I have reported your post as spam.

NoB Mr Inappropriate may be Mr Right - no harm meeting!

AntiG if you want a FWB while waiting for the one go ahead. As long as you have boundaries and feel you can cope emotionally it is fine. I'm too emotionally unstable to do it myself, but if I could get around that I would consider it I wouldn't tell anyone in RL though as my friends are mainly 'happy marrieds' .

I've signed up to OKC, not taking too seriously yet but tightened my search criteria and two meet my criteria. One has already looked at me and made no comment. Looks like a clown anyhow. Other one I'm sure is a serial killer 😂

I'm back on OLD as I still have the firm belief that it's a numbers game and can take thousands of potential meetings to work therefore none of us are odd if we are trying for years .

Mytea and Shatner* following your conversation about profiles I wonder if I'm odd that I am not "looking for a knight to save me", don't have snapchat bunny ears photos nor describe myself as a gym bunny?

ShatnersWig · 26/07/2017 17:25

Lana It seems to be a truism that 50% of female profiles must have photos using some form of bunny ears or pouting like fish.

AntiGrinch · 26/07/2017 17:31

Hi Lana! When you say "sure is a serial killer" - do you mean the photo shows someone incredibly intense and angry looking staring at the camera as he wants to destroy it? there are a lot of those, I forgot to include them in the list of my "deal breaker" photo attributes.

  • Stares at camera with rage and disgust (often has tiny piggy eyes)
  • stares at camera (in crumpled ill fitting t-shirt with arms hanging limply by sides) with blatant pleading loneliness

What should I do, do you think, to attempt a sex date with safety? I don't dare tell anyone in real life but I think I should, rather than go and meet a stranger without telling anyone. I'm just going to have to get the bottle up to tell a friend if I go ahead with this, right? and then meet somewhere neutral like a coffee place and only go back to his if it feels ok. Would you do that? Would anyone do that?

Lovemusic33 · 26/07/2017 18:17

Photos are important, I rarely see any good ones, there are a few that have had profetional photos taken, not sure if this is a good thing or not? The ones I hate include;

  • photos with lots of people in.
  • wedding photos
  • Photo of the person drunk wearing silly items on their head or a cheesy xmas jumper.
  • photos with children
  • hand gestures
  • serious expressions (serial killer look)
  • photo hugging a tiger or swimming with dolphins.
  • Bathrrom shots

That rules out most people on POF.

ShatnersWig · 26/07/2017 18:31

Love I've not got any photos like that. I'm definitely Elephant Man's lesser-known cousin then.

But yes, as a guy, I too hate seeing women clearly pissed, photos with kids or all group shots so you can't sometimes tell who the profile is actually for.

Saw a profile today. Nice photos but no interests mentioned (helpful) and a preposterous poem as her profile text. We"re talking awful wedding invite quality poem too

AntiGrinch · 26/07/2017 19:50

Lovemusic - you're so right. That's exactly why I am so uninspired by POF.

someone on tinder just messaged and asked to meet straight away. he's near my work so I'm like hell why not - except I am now not at work for 20 days! by then I'm sure he'll have forgotten me. He's clearly the type to jump straight in so he's probably invited 6 other women for coffee in 5 minutes

AntiGrinch · 26/07/2017 19:51

Shatner, as (ahem) a guy, what makes a good profile?

ShatnersWig · 26/07/2017 20:41

Can't speak for everyone but just three or four normal photos, one of which would be full length, and smiling or laughing in at least two of them. No filters or bunny ears, silly hand gestures or pouts.

When it comes to text, doesn't need to be a lot. A few well chosen lines that reveal a sense of humour and some interests which would give something to use not only to guage possible compatibility but for a question in a first message. And no negativity.

Lovemusic33 · 26/07/2017 20:42

My messages so far today include...

'Gorgeous darling, how are you' ( weird looking guy, a lot younger than me )

'Hi there, well I was once a knight in shining armour but due to a couple of failed quests it's gone a bit rusty now. Looking for my own fair maiden hopefully with a can of WD40 to get me off this horse' Hmm

Got to love POF, great entertainment Grin