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Dating Thread 116 - come join us!

999 replies

InfoSec21 · 09/04/2017 19:52

Dating thread rules:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize-they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread.
OP posts:
InfoSec21 · 20/04/2017 20:58

Fankoo for comments on tats. I have an angel theme going on, this is like the darker side to the lighter angel on the flip side. Just to say really this isn't based on what I'd call what I'm saying is beautiful.

Would be bit disappointed if someone felt intimidated by it in the flesh, but everyone to their own of course. ☺️👍

OP posts:
Bant · 20/04/2017 21:28

Having said that I'm seeing how things go with MissCivil, I got an email from a work colleague saying he's visiting the city where I used to live. And would I join him to visit customers. And immediately my mind jumps to the possibility of catching up with my ex.

Agh.

OutToGetYou · 20/04/2017 21:31

On POF, how does it work the other end when you delete a message/message thread your end?

Idiot impatient man from the post above messaged again at around 10am saying 'lol so many messages' and it made me a bit cross (I don't really message during the day as I am at work and I am a bit suspicious of people who only message during the day married ) and I replied 'so many messages, so little content', he replied 'lol' - later tonight I deleted the thread. He's sent me a slightly odd response to that.

Plentyoffishnets · 20/04/2017 21:37

Please can I ask a bit of advice? Mr pizza seems to be very much cooling off. Cancelled date yesterday, no suggestion of another. I had said he could call me but he hasn't. Messaging has reduced massively and no longer much conversation it is taking hours for him to respond when before it had been instant. I had some doubts after him after our last date but had wanted to meet up again to check. I am guessing he felt the same.
Not sure whether to just let it lie and carry on with the friendly but much fewer messages and see what happens , to stop responding to him altogether to see what happens or to ask him directly if everything is OK and whether he wants to continue with things. What worries me about that is that I don't want to force his hand esp as I was not sure myself. It's just weird after 6 weeks or so of constant comms for it to drop off so massively and want to know my next steps. I have something major happening work wise in a few days so wonder if that is why he does not want to end things in case I am upset? But would rather know for sure. So wondering what you lovely lot suggest?
And I thought he was no drama and that he could have been it - pah!

OutToGetYou · 20/04/2017 21:41

If you'd rather know, best to ask him?

If it were me though, I'd just leave it and see if he got back in touch, and then decide.

Plentyoffishnets · 20/04/2017 21:52

Thanks outto. The thing is, he is still in touch, just much less and no suggestion of re organising a date.

Farontothemaddingcrowd · 20/04/2017 21:58

I'd probably leave it too. I always ask myself how I'd behave if I really liked someone. When I leave a text for days or don't arrange the next date, it's because I'm not invested. My rule now is just not to bother at all if anyone does not show proper interest.

Plentyoffishnets · 20/04/2017 22:19

Thanks far, I know it definitely cannot be right if I have to chase so am not going to. I just want a bit of closure I guess. This has happened to me twice in the last 4 months now. Bloke talking along lines of it being a relationship, talk of meeting kids along the line etc, so basically making me feel like its for the long haul then have sex a few different occasions then they fade away. Not sure how many more times I can go through all of this.

Biddylee · 20/04/2017 22:21

Info amazing tattoo!

missrolandrat There was another story on here on Wednesday about a guy sending loads of pics of what he was doing. (is this a new thing??)

runnymummy I am not surprised that you feel that you won't trust mrgym - you are having to rebuild trust at an early stage in your relationship! He's done lots of red flag things. Hope you figure out what the right thing for you is (remember the stuff about you being the prize!!)

bant misscivil sounds nice.. just give it some time. (and pangs about exs can suck big time )

Have realised my work is never going to deliver me any possible dates as it seems to attract retired people. Grin

Biddylee · 20/04/2017 22:22

plentyof sounds similar to my recent ex - very keen then very quiet and laid back about dates. It sucks really. Sorry you are going through this.

OutToGetYou · 20/04/2017 22:45

Plentyof - time to don that thick skin I think.

educationforlife · 20/04/2017 23:00

Can I pop in?
Feeling very down.
Staying on GSM until subscription runs out and 'liking' a few people - they look and don't reply.
I am feeling like a freak.
Got in to this very desultory conversation with someone I don't remotely fancy from photos --but am desperate.. - and even that has petered out.
All very sad

MrsRolandRat · 20/04/2017 23:05

Plentyoffishnets I've had this happen to me recently, just a few weeks ago. He did actually have the decency to tell me he didn't see himself in a relationship with me shame he only realised this after he had shagged me but it stings, the rejection after they've been so damn keen, quick out the gate then go into a slow canter!

As someone else said I kind of look how I would react when I like someone but not into them enough and it's probably this, take ages to return texts and not arrange any further dates.

It's so hard this dating game.

Dieu · 20/04/2017 23:14

Education! Welcome back. Sorry it's going to shit, but I do imagine GSM to be full of wankers.

educationforlife · 20/04/2017 23:19

Hi Dieu How's it going?
Yes a website POW!!! Grin They could all go there so we would know
Sadly, I think I am just too old and too short

OutToGetYou · 20/04/2017 23:24

Wankers in Birkenstocks....

(too short?? Confused)

Lovemusic33 · 21/04/2017 08:07

Well looks like Mr Beard has done a vanishing act, trying not to be too upset as I wasn't really holding out much hope on things working out but it just makes me feel like there's something wrong with me, I'm not good enough Sad, we have talked almost non stop for 3 weekend then a few days ago texts slowed right down to just a few in the evenings then yesterday no reply to my message, I can see he has been on whatsapp but he hasn't looked at my message. I woke in the night so sent a message saying 'looks like you have found someone else to talk too, good luck' (I know I should have just left it), he hasn't read it and hasn't been online sinse last night. Even if he does reply I don't think I will bother Sad. I now have no irons at all, POF is dead ( no new members near me ) and I rarely get any messages on Tinder, when I do it is people asking for sex.

I'm close to giving up, trouble is there's no chance of me meeting anyone in RL as I don't have time to go out in the evenings Sad.

Mangoandpassionfruit · 21/04/2017 08:24

Ahhh Lovemusic, there's nothing wrong with you at all. OLD is really just so weird sometimes and the disappearing thing so common. It's totally biazzare. I've lost count of the people who you think you're having a great conversation/relationship with and then puff, they've gone. I do think it's the whole sweetshop mentality, because they're faced with lots of other choices, it's always tempting to see what else is out there.

Biddylee · 21/04/2017 08:32

lovemusic sorry to hear that. I know the feeling of not feeling good enough but it''s not you, it's them. There is someone out there for you.

I am actually thinking of asking any potential dates to not use whatsapp - it just makes me anxious when I can see someone on there who hasn't responded to my messages and also as much as I love talking, I don't want to talk to someone all day!

Pavonia · 21/04/2017 08:36

LoveMusic sorry to hear that you are feeling down. I'm wondering if the best thing to do is rotate each site so that when you come back to it, it is fresh. At the moment I'm just on OKC and Happn. Tinder and Bumble weren't working well for me for the most part.

I've got dates lined up for Sunday and Monday. Some others that I was messaging have faded away. This morning I had a new mutual like so I messaged him, he unliked me - is it any wonder we hesitate to message first!

Lovemusic33 · 21/04/2017 08:38

I do hate whatsapp, find myself checking it way too much.

Just had a message on POF, got all excited, clicked on it and it was a 25 year old Indian doctor who lives 50 miles away. Waste of time.

pringlecat · 21/04/2017 08:48

InfoSec21 It's quite clearly been drawn with skill, but I would find this off-putting. The last two guys I've kissed have actually had tats (clearly those deal-breakers are designed to be broken) but nothing that covers such a large area of skin. However, there are plenty of women who do like tats and it doesn't look like yours was a snap decision! Wink Horses for courses.

Plentyoffishnets Lovemusic33 It's not you, lovelies, it's them. People you meet through OLD can be plain weird sometimes - it's the nature of the game. They don't feel accountable to social norms and think it's acceptable to just vanish.

RunnnyMummy I find trusting men from OLD to be hard, because we have no shared acquaintances and no background. With men from RL, often you'll know someone who can vouch that they're not serial killers etc. However, Mr Gym is a whole other kettle of fish.

I personally think that he treated you very poorly and you are trying to justify his behaviour because you are emotionally invested in him and want things to work. However on some level, you know you can do better and are just trying to drown that voice out. If you do decide to let him go, I'm sure you'll see things this way later down the line - you're just too close to see.

Take a step back outside from you and outside your body and imagine a friend was dating Mr Gym and he'd done the same thing to her. Would you be encouraging her to stick with him or run? Sometimes taking ourselves out of the scenario is the only way to be semi-rational.

Love makes fools out of us all.

I didn't want to listen to people here when they told me not to invest in Beardy, but they were right, because they weren't close to the situation like me and could see how he was treating me wasn't right. Sometimes when everyone is warning you to take care, there's a reason for it.

You are the prize!

justmeand2DC · 21/04/2017 09:03

education how much longer do you have on your GSM subscription? I think you should hang in there. I am also on GSM and have been seeing someone I met on there for 2 months now. When I joined there weren't loads of profiles I was drawn to and most of the messages I received came from men over 65 which I thought was too big an age gap for me (I am early 50s) however I did message a few men in their 50s and am seeing one of them.

I don't think you can be shorter than me (I am only 4 foot 11!). I don't think you're too old either, I have a friend who is 65 and only 3-4 inches taller than me who seems to be meeting lots of men on GSM, a lot of them late 50s and early 60s. I also found that a lot of the men I "liked" viewed my profile and didn't contact me. Try not to take it personally , as everyone says it's a numbers game and you only need one.

pringlecat · 21/04/2017 09:26

Something I've been thinking about recently is how I've fallen into a pattern of 'not being chosen'.

I've dated people from RL and OLD who have either decided to make a go of it with another iron or go back to an ex - and in many cases, it's turned into something quite serious with the other woman. It's happened so many times now, I need to figure out what I'm doing wrong...

I'm pretty much the girl-next-door every man wants to date right before he gets married. And that's weird. I'm not saying this in a self-pitying way, rather in a self-aware one. I've fallen into this pattern for some reason!

I can't make myself less independent (I am not going to apologise for being able to take care of myself financially) but I wonder if my hectic lifestyle might be off-putting? I used to think it made me interesting, now I think it just exhausts people thinking about it and that puts me in the "not relationship material" box.

A voice at the back of my head says "lose weight", but even though I know I look better one dress size smaller, that's not a huge differential and I did have that extended snogging session with a younger, fitter man recently so logically, it's not my figure that's taking me out of the game.

Dating is hard...

MrsRolandRat · 21/04/2017 09:48

Pringlecat I kind of fall into the same boat too.

Meeting men who have chosen others over me. It starts off well then the lose interest/start slow fading and ultimately choose someone else.

I too class myself as attractive, I look after myself at the gym etc. And I think I have a good sense of humour.

I often wonder if men see my lifestyle as not relationship compatible. I fly for a living, so I'm out of the country a lot, then when I'm home I have dd who is 3.5 years old. Maybe my life is too hectic for some men. And I'm very independent too. My job has made me this way.
Who knows it's a minefield!