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H stepped the f*ckery up to another level this weekend.

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PinkGlitter17 · 28/02/2017 23:38

My god. I have a H who's financially and emotionally abusive, and 2 DCs (8 & 2.5). I was posting last week about his behaviour and got tons of LTB responses, which I agree with, and then on Sunday he stepped it up. I'm still in shock and keep having to remind myself that it really happened.

not a good start to a post, is it?

I was setting out with DD to go to an art workshop that morning, and had left the kitchen in a mess, dishes and cake-baking gear piled up on the side, all ready to do them when i returned 2 hrs later. H comes into kitchen with DS, sees pots, asks incredulously whether it was all stuff that needed washing. I said yes, and that I would do it when I got back.

And he said NO! I was not to go anywhere until the kitchen was clean, "the way it should be left". i fought my corner and said he couldn't stop me from going out, and was he forbidding me?! He just kept saying no, I wasn't going anywhere. I carried on putting my shoes on, could see DD looking scared, DS (2) just watching.

H then went into our bedroom, ranting at me about a) a job he had decided i must apply for but "hadn't been arsed to get" and had been pathetic about, and b) taking the kids to my parents' for 2.5 days over Xmas, when he was working 1 of those days and had kicked up endless shit about me doing it when he had said he really didn't want me to. He said if I went to the art class, that was it, we were done, and he would leave. i stood in the hallway like a rabbit in the headlights, watching him and listening to him rant, thinking this was a crucial moment and that I was being totally watched by DD and shouldn't let H dictate to me like that, or deny me "permission" to go out. Rock and a hard place.

DD came to me, I went back in the kitchen, and H shut the door and held it so I couldn't open it. I shouted at him - "stop barricading me in the kitchen" - and after a few moments we got out. By the way, DS had been on his side of the door, so saw Daddy's behaviour {sad}

DD & I went in living room, sat on sofa, ignored H - he came in and loomed over us, glaring. i told him not to do that in front of DD. He said that cuddling DD wasn't getting the kitchen cleaned.

After a while, I went into the kitchen and DD followed me, bless her, and said she was going to help . We did all the fucking dishes and cleaned up, then were due to our cakes to a bake-off, so we got ready to go - and then found that H had buggered off in the car.

So I took DD and DS to where we were going, thinking that maybe H really had left. I got through the afternoon despite H's bullshit, and went to a women's meeting at the pub too, where everyone had brought their kids so the children all played while we chatted.

When we got home, I didn't know what to expect. H had cooked tea so we all had that. Long story short, after 1.5 days of (mutual) silence, H is speaking to me again, pretty much as if nothing happened. I've been reading about the cycle of charm-anger-explosion-calm that abusers use.

I've also been looking at benefits entitlements, spousal maintenance, child mainteneance, divorce settlements, and a house that's for rent in our village.

So sick of this shit.

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JennyOnAPlate · 02/03/2017 07:19

You don't need to make any plans beyond leaving at the moment op. The first step is the monumental one and you probably won't be able to plan beyond it until you have got away and have space to think.

Please don't worry about the dc's future relationship with their father...what's happening to them now trumps that. Besides, this is clearly not a father who should have unsupervised access to his children.

You are so brave op and you can do it. Take the first step and then once the dust has settled plan the bright future that I know you can have with your children Flowers

sofiainwonderland · 02/03/2017 07:23

Your DD's attitude was amazing, bless her.
But you know precisely her and your DS should not witness that. Please leave, while it's not too late

Bananamanfan · 02/03/2017 07:32

Don't be surprised if your family don't understand at first. Have you told them not to talk to your H? I expect you've spent a lot of effort in covering for your H so it will be out of the blue. Will your brother help you?

PinkGlitter17 · 02/03/2017 09:10

Can't believe you amazing women are posting here before 7 a.m. Flowers

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MiniCooperLover · 02/03/2017 09:16

Can you trust your brother not to say anything ?

StormZelda · 02/03/2017 09:20

Sorry your brother is reacting as though you need clearance from above. My brother hadn't a clue what to say but he 100% believed me that I knew the right thing to do was to leave. he communicated that much successfully. If you've spent a long time covering for your H then at first they may think you are over reacting so go right in there with ''I've been covering for him". "If you think I'm over reacting or being impetuous it's because I've successfully COVERED for him2.

laureywilliams · 02/03/2017 09:28

Do you have a bank account in your name?

You'll need one. Can you set one up before the weekend or pop in a branch and have a chat about what documents you'll need? Maybe an online only account so your change of address doesn't matter.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 02/03/2017 09:29

Just wanted to wish you the best of luck.

Angryangryyoungwoman · 02/03/2017 09:32

Hope all goes well for you, it has got to be better than the current situation

laureywilliams · 02/03/2017 09:35

Also do you have a phone with a camera?

Photograph all documents/statements/passwords/pension details.

Anything you can lay your hands on which may be of use to you later.

EMail them to yourself.

Make sure your phone has a pin that he doesn't know. Change it anyway.

Change the password on your email account/facebook anything else.

Consider posting your passport and the childrens to your parents. Tell him the school have them for citizenship checks if he notices.

Do you have a laptop/tablet in the house? Take it when you go. You're going to need that for form filling/contact details etc and possibly the information that's on it.

JazzFunk · 02/03/2017 10:42

I can't believe your brother said that

I can. There's every likelihood that OPs brother is a perfectly good bloke, but people can react strangely to hearing upsetting news - and a common reaction (apparently) can be to try to minimise what's happened - which is the last thing you need OP, but just try to ignore and carry on with your plan. If your brother is happy to provide the transport, then all good. As others have said, just calmly tell your brother that you've been covering up for your H for a long time, but yes you and your DC need to leave - it's a matter of your and their safety.

On the subject of what to tell the DC, I would say nothing. If they ask what the bags are for, just say you need to move some stuff. Then when you are in the car tell them they are going to see their GPs for a surprise.

Lynnm63 · 02/03/2017 11:46

The ops brother probably thinks this is a tiff over nothing not that bil is a dangerous controlling man. I imagine op has successfully hidden this from everyone and as he isn't physically abusive there aren't any bruises to hide.
Brother is probably concerned that if this is a tiff once it's blown over he'd be the bad guy for getting involved. Once he realises how bad it is I'd hope he'd be different. If he isn't once he knows the full story that would be unconciable.

Make sure you take anything with you can't replace e.g photos and any docs that would be a pain to replace e.g passports, birth certificate, benefit docs, child benefit and tax credit letters. It's likely he would destroy stuff out of spite.
Rooting for you for Saturday

ChrisYoungFuckingRocks · 02/03/2017 12:24

Make sure you take anything with you can't replace

Every year my DTDs (8) buy a bauble each at Christmas, which we personalise with their names. When I left my ex, he destroyed everything - 5 year's worth of precious memories that can never be replaced (and all my Christmas decorations), and most of my important paperwork. If something is important to you, don't leave it behind. Hope all goes well over the weekend. Flowers

Writerwannabe83 · 02/03/2017 12:33

A few years ago my sister disclosed to me the truth about the emotional and financial abuse that was going on in her relationship and that she wanted to leave him. They'd been together about 10 years and had two children together (aged 5 and 7) and although he'd never been my favourite person I was still gobsmacked at what had been going on behind closed doors. It really upset me to think she'd been living like it but had felt to afraid/ashamed to ask for help.

Three days later, whilst he was at work I went round and collected my sister and the children and bought them back to mine. He had no idea and the first he knew was when my sister text him that evening to say she'd left him.

Once she was at mine she could think about and sort out all the financial and practical aspects of leaving but her first priority had always been just to get herself and the children away from him.

Good luck OP, you're doing the right thing Flowers

laureywilliams · 02/03/2017 12:47

Yes I'm not surprised at the brother.

If he'd witnessed the kitchen scene he'd feel very differently.

But some people struggle when something is sprung on them like this. And don't want to feel responsible for breaking up a family that they thought was perfectly normal.

PinkGlitter17 · 02/03/2017 13:07

I have done it. Spoke to a v good friend who kicked her DV EA FA XH out 3 years ago. She agrees about leaving in secret.
Then I rang my mum and told her I needed to come up at the weekend, bring the kids, she was just as welcoming as I had expected and was so upset to hear. And I realised that the town where the party is has a,train station, so if need be I can travel by train with just a few bags, stash some stuff at a friend's, and come down soon to collect boxes.

Can't believe how relieved I feel, how much happier, how I can see my way out now.

Haven't spoken to WA yet, I feel so supported by all of you and my family. I will speak to them though.

THANK YOU XXXX

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PinkGlitter17 · 02/03/2017 13:07

My brother is totally sound, by the way ☺

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laureywilliams · 02/03/2017 13:11

The start of a new beginning!!!!

Flowers
MiddleClassProblem · 02/03/2017 13:11

Well done,Pink. I'm sure your parents will be so relieved when you get there. Glad you gave a good support system x

tipsytrifle · 02/03/2017 13:20

I'm so proud of you, your friend, your family. Your life is back in your control and soon, very very soon, you'll be away from this abuser. You're going to be safe and happy again - how awesome does that sound and feel? Try and keep the skip in your step low-key for now, though, right? Chocolate

ChrisYoungFuckingRocks · 02/03/2017 13:23

So glad to hear it Grin.

H stepped the f*ckery up to another level this weekend.
Frouby · 02/03/2017 13:24

I read your op with my heart in my mouth Pink. He sounds like my ex too.

I left him suddenly as well. Packed the baby clothes (dd was about 3 months old), packed up any important documents into a rucksack and left it in a cupboard by the stairs. I then arranged for my bro to come and get as much stuff as we could fit in his car while ex was on a stag do weekend. Me and dd got the train to my mams about 2 hours away.

It was hard moving back home but better than staying. I got myself sorted with a job and eventually a private rented property. It was me and dd against the world back then. It was actually a lovely time of my life. Very cosy just us 2. And nice to know everything we had I had done myself.

I met dp and now we have ds and a lovely, happy home.

It will all be good.

Writerwannabe83 · 02/03/2017 13:34

You should be so incredibly proud of yourself OP, you're a very strong woman Flowers

JazzFunk · 02/03/2017 13:41

Well done you! Flowers

Trust me - one day you will look back at this time as when everything started to change for the better Smile

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 02/03/2017 13:51

Well done OP that's great news

Take everything you might need especially paperwork - as suggested above take photographs if necessary etc

Don't assume that you will be able to come back at a later date and collect your belongings - you might well find that they have all been destroyed.

If there is anything precious/important take it with you

Don't tell DD anything, don't let him get wind of anything

Good luck Smile

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