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H stepped the f*ckery up to another level this weekend.

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PinkGlitter17 · 28/02/2017 23:38

My god. I have a H who's financially and emotionally abusive, and 2 DCs (8 & 2.5). I was posting last week about his behaviour and got tons of LTB responses, which I agree with, and then on Sunday he stepped it up. I'm still in shock and keep having to remind myself that it really happened.

not a good start to a post, is it?

I was setting out with DD to go to an art workshop that morning, and had left the kitchen in a mess, dishes and cake-baking gear piled up on the side, all ready to do them when i returned 2 hrs later. H comes into kitchen with DS, sees pots, asks incredulously whether it was all stuff that needed washing. I said yes, and that I would do it when I got back.

And he said NO! I was not to go anywhere until the kitchen was clean, "the way it should be left". i fought my corner and said he couldn't stop me from going out, and was he forbidding me?! He just kept saying no, I wasn't going anywhere. I carried on putting my shoes on, could see DD looking scared, DS (2) just watching.

H then went into our bedroom, ranting at me about a) a job he had decided i must apply for but "hadn't been arsed to get" and had been pathetic about, and b) taking the kids to my parents' for 2.5 days over Xmas, when he was working 1 of those days and had kicked up endless shit about me doing it when he had said he really didn't want me to. He said if I went to the art class, that was it, we were done, and he would leave. i stood in the hallway like a rabbit in the headlights, watching him and listening to him rant, thinking this was a crucial moment and that I was being totally watched by DD and shouldn't let H dictate to me like that, or deny me "permission" to go out. Rock and a hard place.

DD came to me, I went back in the kitchen, and H shut the door and held it so I couldn't open it. I shouted at him - "stop barricading me in the kitchen" - and after a few moments we got out. By the way, DS had been on his side of the door, so saw Daddy's behaviour {sad}

DD & I went in living room, sat on sofa, ignored H - he came in and loomed over us, glaring. i told him not to do that in front of DD. He said that cuddling DD wasn't getting the kitchen cleaned.

After a while, I went into the kitchen and DD followed me, bless her, and said she was going to help . We did all the fucking dishes and cleaned up, then were due to our cakes to a bake-off, so we got ready to go - and then found that H had buggered off in the car.

So I took DD and DS to where we were going, thinking that maybe H really had left. I got through the afternoon despite H's bullshit, and went to a women's meeting at the pub too, where everyone had brought their kids so the children all played while we chatted.

When we got home, I didn't know what to expect. H had cooked tea so we all had that. Long story short, after 1.5 days of (mutual) silence, H is speaking to me again, pretty much as if nothing happened. I've been reading about the cycle of charm-anger-explosion-calm that abusers use.

I've also been looking at benefits entitlements, spousal maintenance, child mainteneance, divorce settlements, and a house that's for rent in our village.

So sick of this shit.

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welshmist · 17/03/2017 11:41

A friends husband used to bitch about his wife and how hard done by he was, we all thought it said more about him than her. He does sound like a narcissist, been there got the teeshirt.

thenarcissisticlife.com/married-to-a-narcissistic-husband-proceed-with-caution/

plainjanine · 17/03/2017 11:54

Trying to ruin your escape with tales of what freinds are thinking (which you could easily check up on and find he is lying about) are the acts of a desperate man. He cannot conceive of a future where you are your own person, in control of your own destiny. He really does not believe that you will do this.

Prove him wrong! You and the DC will be sooo much better off without him - you have everything to gain and nothing to lose. He is in the opposite position. :)

We're all rooting for you!

MaeveTheRave · 17/03/2017 12:16

Agree with Jayzis. My x did the same. The friend who helped me the most the first time I left him, he told that I had embarrassed myself being such a burden on her, put her in a position where she couldn't say no, that English people were different from Irish people and that I didn't understand the social nuances and that she'd wanted to say no to helping me but I was too dumb to read the cues. ON AND ON AND ON he went. Still in touch with that friend nearly a decade later! So although I did ''burden'' her, I don't think I embarrassed myself, except by staying with him as long as I did.

PinkGlitter17 · 20/03/2017 11:18

Just checking in.

Day-to-day living under this roof is so hard! H is going about his business, so am I. I just don't know how to talk to him. We're both just kind of sickened by the situation. DCs are ok.

I'm talking/venting to friends - a lot. Along with posting here, it's totally keeping me going.

Really, really pleased to get an email from the council telling me that my housing application is now being processed. In fact, it's worth knowing that if you're a new applicant, it seems that you're placed in the lowest-priority group initially, until you can be assessed properly. I have been in the lowest group until now, and couldn't understand why I was being classed as 'not in need of housing' given my circumstances. So, if you are in the same boat, it may be that your local authority does the same. I'm excited to know that I could be re-housed within sort of 4-6 weeks.

I've done a couple of uncomfortable things this weekend: deleted a load of mutual friends from my fb friends, and separated my books from H's on the bookcase. Makes things easier when I leave.

I have had such doubts about whether I should have come back to this house. Ideally, I wouldn't have done. One day last week, I was actually trembling with the mental toughness of being here and fighting adversity. But it is what it is, and I'm staying as detached as I can.

Thanks for the continuing, unwavering support. Flowers to all of you. X

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Lynnm63 · 20/03/2017 11:59

Well done. DON'T let you stbxh know when the council expect to house you. Ideally you can move in and then leave once he's at work. He'll be at his most dangerous at that time. I don't speak from experience just what I've heard and read on here.

PinkGlitter17 · 20/03/2017 12:21

Lynn, that is amazing advice, thank you. I hadn't thought in that way. I will bear it in mind.

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BadTasteFlump · 20/03/2017 12:40

Absolutely OP - tell him as little as possible Flowers

BusyHomemaker · 20/03/2017 12:41

Thank you for the update PinkGlitter17 I've been following your thread with interest. So happy for you that you and your DCs will be free soon. Btw, I agree with Lynn's advice.

sick0fmykids · 20/03/2017 14:40

great news about the housing situation reassessment.

WitchDancer · 20/03/2017 16:24

You're doing brilliantly, well done!

I agree that you should give him as little information as possible, including your plans for anything to do with the kids

NightWanderer · 20/03/2017 18:52

Good luck. I hope a house comes through quickly. Hang in there!

ChishandFips33 · 21/03/2017 12:18

Good to know you are hanging on in, venting at RL friends and getting rid of the unsupportive ones

This is a tough time but you are getting stronger because of it and it's great to know you've moved forward with your exit plans - keep going...your better life awaits you

HiMyNameIsUnknown · 21/03/2017 12:38

Great advice from Lynn. Make sure your trusted friends know what is a secret from him.

Make sure emails/mail etc relating to you leaving him can't be accessed by him.

Keep safe you're doing great

OnTheHorizon66 · 21/03/2017 14:11

PinkGlitter......Your thread really resonated with me .
Some of what you wrote could have been me a few years back .
The way you describe the stares, the put downs of your cooking, the household chores being left and not up to his standard, the silent treatment, the cutting remarks in front of your children.
I lived through that too and like you vented on this site and the wonderful people on here not only gave me great advice, support , made me realize this was abuse (which I was totally blind to) but also gave me the strength and resolve to leave him.

I went to a family members , left with nothing but a few clothes, and yes that was tough.
On the first night , next few days I thought what have I done.
Not in a regretful way more a will my children be okay .

But I can honestly say nearly 8 years on I haven't looked back !
Will not pretend it's been easy . You will have doubtful moments, pangs of guilt that you took your children away from the family home.
But my children have thrived since this happened and I believe was best for all concerned .
Even my ex H has turned things around and although I would never have got back with him after everything he put me through am happy to see the great relationship he has with our children .

It can be done as others have said on here.
I was overwhelmed with the support I received on here, people sent me things to help me start up a new home and made me see that there is a better life out there free of walking on eggshells , anxiety , constant abuse.

You will get there , it just takes time, everyone is different in when they come to realize this.
Your children will probably be the key ...you said they follow you or give you reassuring hugs.....
That was what happened with me , that kicked me into action and I saw what the effect it was having on them .

Good luck and stay positive , keep your resolve , keep moving forwards not back .

mumsoftwins · 21/03/2017 23:57

I think it's so sad that you have to be the one to leave when it's his behaviour that has sparked so much of this. Saying that it does give you a much better opportunity for a new start.

HiMyNameIsUnknown · 22/03/2017 20:31

Horizon you sound so brave for what you have been through. I hope the OP finds the same strength

OnTheHorizon66 · 22/03/2017 22:08

Thank you for your kind words HiMyNameIsUnknown

Hope the OP does too and is okay.

PinkGlitter17 · 23/03/2017 00:15

It's absolutely crazy, but I've found out that I actually have a ready-made "fuck off fund" of 3k!!! I had this bank a/c that I thought had been closed, but my amazing mum used to put a monthly £100 in, which I thought she'd stopped doing. So I wasn't using the account, and the £ was still going in. And now, it's a tidy sum! Makes things sooooo much easier to face.

H asked me tonight, by text, if I could pay the rent. My god, why the hell does it feel difficult to lie and say no?! I really have to steel myself and get my story straight: no, I can't pay the £625 rent with the child benefit of £138.

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PinkGlitter17 · 23/03/2017 00:17

Horizon: wow, your story is so inspiring. and Unknown: thanks for thinking of me. FlowersCakeWine

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WitchDancer · 23/03/2017 07:55

That's brilliant news Pink, bless your mum for giving you this chance to escape a lot easier. That's your deposit and new stuff if you need it. I'm thinking of you and praying every day that you are coping.

GreenPeppers · 23/03/2017 08:35

Yay that's great news re the money. It will make things much easier for you :)

Re the rent.
You don't have to lie. What you said here 'No I can't paid a £600 rent with £138 of CB' IS the truth. And no can't possibly do it.
Don't feel bad about it.

Are you any further forward re finding somewhere to live?

Mutella · 23/03/2017 09:06

Happy for you Pink, pleased to hear about your Fuck You Fund! Brew

plainjanine · 23/03/2017 12:17

Pink, I would say just that to your husband: £138 will not pay the £625 rent. He can be as dickheaded as he likes, but the maths do speak for themselves.

Great news that you have an escape fund! Keep it safe and keep it secret!

WatchingFromTheWings · 23/03/2017 12:26

no, I can't pay the £625 rent with the child benefit of £138.

If that's the only income you have then tell him that. The £3k..... well tell yourself it's your mothers money and 'forget' about it until you need it.

AcrossthePond55 · 23/03/2017 12:47

He really is something, isn't he? Pay the rent!!!

It shows how selfish and unconcerned with others that he is. And you are absolutely entitled to be just as unconcerned with him. You simply tell him "No, I will not pay YOUR rent". You don't have to justify anything to him, so please don't do it. It's all part of breaking that chain.