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H stepped the f*ckery up to another level this weekend.

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PinkGlitter17 · 28/02/2017 23:38

My god. I have a H who's financially and emotionally abusive, and 2 DCs (8 & 2.5). I was posting last week about his behaviour and got tons of LTB responses, which I agree with, and then on Sunday he stepped it up. I'm still in shock and keep having to remind myself that it really happened.

not a good start to a post, is it?

I was setting out with DD to go to an art workshop that morning, and had left the kitchen in a mess, dishes and cake-baking gear piled up on the side, all ready to do them when i returned 2 hrs later. H comes into kitchen with DS, sees pots, asks incredulously whether it was all stuff that needed washing. I said yes, and that I would do it when I got back.

And he said NO! I was not to go anywhere until the kitchen was clean, "the way it should be left". i fought my corner and said he couldn't stop me from going out, and was he forbidding me?! He just kept saying no, I wasn't going anywhere. I carried on putting my shoes on, could see DD looking scared, DS (2) just watching.

H then went into our bedroom, ranting at me about a) a job he had decided i must apply for but "hadn't been arsed to get" and had been pathetic about, and b) taking the kids to my parents' for 2.5 days over Xmas, when he was working 1 of those days and had kicked up endless shit about me doing it when he had said he really didn't want me to. He said if I went to the art class, that was it, we were done, and he would leave. i stood in the hallway like a rabbit in the headlights, watching him and listening to him rant, thinking this was a crucial moment and that I was being totally watched by DD and shouldn't let H dictate to me like that, or deny me "permission" to go out. Rock and a hard place.

DD came to me, I went back in the kitchen, and H shut the door and held it so I couldn't open it. I shouted at him - "stop barricading me in the kitchen" - and after a few moments we got out. By the way, DS had been on his side of the door, so saw Daddy's behaviour {sad}

DD & I went in living room, sat on sofa, ignored H - he came in and loomed over us, glaring. i told him not to do that in front of DD. He said that cuddling DD wasn't getting the kitchen cleaned.

After a while, I went into the kitchen and DD followed me, bless her, and said she was going to help . We did all the fucking dishes and cleaned up, then were due to our cakes to a bake-off, so we got ready to go - and then found that H had buggered off in the car.

So I took DD and DS to where we were going, thinking that maybe H really had left. I got through the afternoon despite H's bullshit, and went to a women's meeting at the pub too, where everyone had brought their kids so the children all played while we chatted.

When we got home, I didn't know what to expect. H had cooked tea so we all had that. Long story short, after 1.5 days of (mutual) silence, H is speaking to me again, pretty much as if nothing happened. I've been reading about the cycle of charm-anger-explosion-calm that abusers use.

I've also been looking at benefits entitlements, spousal maintenance, child mainteneance, divorce settlements, and a house that's for rent in our village.

So sick of this shit.

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TitaniasCloset · 01/03/2017 23:22

No you really don't.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 01/03/2017 23:24

OP - is there no way you could get your brother/friends to pick you up while he is out at work?

What if he kicks off on Saturday and tries to prevent you from taking the DCs to the party. Presumably you'll be wanting to take certain items with you - childrens clothes and toys especially - you won't be able to take much stuff with you while tiptoeing around on Saturday hoping he doesn't wake up, if he even goes to sleep that is. Also, things like paperwork/documents - if you start moving things around in the next few days he might well notice and be on to you.

Seriously - it will be much easier for you to do this while he is out of the house. Get your friends involved, as soon as he's gone to work get them and your brother over, get everything you want from the house in the car and go. Do it ASAP.

And also - worst case scenario he turns up at the house while you're moving out - at least you will have support with you.

AdoraBell · 01/03/2017 23:31

Is there anyone other your brother who could help? He sounds a tad judgemental to be honest, to me anyway, you don't need that on top of the abuse you are already enduring.

PinkGlitter17 · 01/03/2017 23:49

My brother lives a good two hours away so it's a bit more complicated. Re: getting our stuff out of the house, I thought I could take it round in advance to the friend who's taking us to the party. And my bro could pick us up where the party's happening. I think perhaps he's worried about coming to the house and risking a,showdown with H.

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Astro55 · 01/03/2017 23:52

Your DH wouldn't have a clue

Please keep us posted x

PinkGlitter17 · 01/03/2017 23:52

I'm really worried about what to tell dd as to why we're going away with suitcases etc. Do I just say we're going to GPs for a little holiday? She'll be confused with it being term time.

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Astro55 · 01/03/2017 23:54

Tell her you have a suprise! Guest what grandma can't wait to see you both! But not until after the party - kids slip up x

MiddleClassProblem · 01/03/2017 23:57

I have no idea what's appropriate to tell her or if to lie. I wouldn't say much until you were on your way. In someways she will understand more than you realise but in others she just can't comprehend adult relationships.

I'm guessing there might be some advice out there on the internet though. Maybe the nspcc site?

PinkGlitter17 · 01/03/2017 23:58

My cousin left her DV EA XH a few years ago and just turned up on her mum's doorstep one night with her 2 DCs. That mum is staying with my mum (they're sisters) for a few days, coinciding with me going there. Quite a nice coincidence.

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oleoleoleole · 01/03/2017 23:59

Just pack a bag, get in the car and go. As long as you have your kids with you, go to your family then work out a plan from there.

UptownFlunk · 02/03/2017 00:16

I can't believe your brother said that. He sounds like a bit of a coward. I read your other thread and thought that was bad but this is far, far worse. It was heartbreaking to read about your daughter's attempt to help you to placate this controlling prick. Don't let that be her life. You are her mum, her safety net and main role model. You need to screw up all your courage and get out of there. Contact Women's Aid, they will help you. You don't need your brother's approval.

tipsytrifle · 02/03/2017 00:20

Your latest version of the plan seems best in terms of leaving for the party and then Leaving. Where are you intending to go? I'd recommend distance in the first instance. This can be reviewed later but I think there's going to be severe kickback from H. It also depends on if you can trust db not to tell H in advance and if your parents are going to accept you home.

You need to be safe. At this point any access H has to dc would be used to reclaim them, refuse to return them to you unless you came back to him. This is not the time to think about visitation.

Everything is about to change and there is unlikely to be a smooth transition from abusive relationship and domination to being free and recognised as such by H. For you, this is an escape. For H it will be a rebellion to be put down. Think carefully and make your destination clear in your mind and with those involved in your departure.

I agree that leaving while H is out might be better but if you're ready for it NOW then see how db responds. Would telling your dm be a good move? I don't know her - you do. Is she likely to support or hinder given that I presume you were going to your parents anyway? Yes to saying this is the last resort in your talks with family/db.

Your situation is dangerously abusive and you need to be careful not to go off "half-cocked" without clear options and a place to go that will be a safe house, not a viable target for H to come and claim you back.

Have you had chance to speak with Women's Aid?

tipsytrifle · 02/03/2017 00:23

oleoleoleole - OP cannot drive if I remember right ...

tipsytrifle · 02/03/2017 00:26

and sorry - just realised it's GPs that you're intending to go to OP.

PinkGlitter17 · 02/03/2017 00:31

Tipsy - yep, plan is to go to my parents. They will welcome us in a heartbeat, I am sure of it. I spoke to my mum today and was asking what they're doing this weekend, sussing things out, kind of getting psyched up to blurt. I'm not concerned that there'll be any problem with us going there. Mum has been quite cold about H for a few months now and it wouldn't surprise me if she'd been wondering about him and wanting to say sthg.

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tipsytrifle · 02/03/2017 00:35

That's reassured me loads, Pink ... I so wish you luck and a fair wind in your sails. You're totally ready to do this! Just don't drop your guard for a second.

NightWanderer · 02/03/2017 00:43

You'll be fine. Don't worry about your brother you're doing the right thing. Just focus on step 1 for now. Things like access etc can be worked out later.

AcrossthePond55 · 02/03/2017 00:59

You say nothing to your daughter in advance. There will be time enough for explanations later. Does she have her own phone? If so, I think I'd 'arrange' for the battery to be dead so your H can't call her once he realizes you've gone.

If your brother has no idea of the way your H treats you, I think it's to be expected he might ask questions. More in a 'have you thought this through' way rather than 'you're making a mistake', iyswim.

I agree take the things to your friend's house ahead of time. I almost think I'd skip the party to be well on the way before H expects me to be home, but I suppose that would be very upsetting to your daughter.

Is there any way your brother could pick up your bags from your friend's and then pick you up at the party? If not, I'd have him pick me up from the friend's. That way DD won't see bags going in or out of the boot of friend's car and wonder what's going on.

Mum has been quite cold about H for a few months now and it wouldn't surprise me if she'd been wondering about him and wanting to say sthg

Wouldn't surprise me, either. I'll bet her first words will be either "Thank God" or "It's about time!".

BluePheasant · 02/03/2017 01:01

Just get yourself and DC to your parents and go from there. If he is controlling you this much then there is nothing to lose.

Trapping you in the kitchen in front of your daughter, just can't fathom it Sad sounds like 1917 not 2017. You just need to get away before he does any more emotional damage to your DC and get your life back. Good luck, you can do it Flowers

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 02/03/2017 01:14

How are you going to get things to your friends ahead of time without DH noticing?

How much stuff are you planning on getting out of the house in advance

Just be careful you don't alert him to anything

GirlElephant · 02/03/2017 01:49

Pink well done on deciding to leave & starting a plan. Others have given great advice on being cautious over the next few days so as to not around suspicion.

Please be careful Flowers

ThreesMyMagicNumber · 02/03/2017 03:42

I've seen it said a few times on this post, but do try and talk to women's aid.

They can help you safety plan as you prepare to leave him and advise how to stay safe. There will be legal orders that you can get in place to stop him harassing you (and your family).

Think you're really brave, remember that there are lots of us rooting for you!!

Flowers
Newbiecat · 02/03/2017 04:05

I've nothing more to add to the wonderful advice you've had on here OP, but didn't want to read and run. Wishing you the very best of luck - you are definitely doing the right thing by your children Flowers

Clutterbugsmum · 02/03/2017 06:49

I'd wouldn't tell DD anything, and if possible ask a friend/someone you trust if you can store a few bits at their house until the weekend. So you can pack while he is at work.

DameDeDoubtance · 02/03/2017 06:56

I left my h many years ago, no kids but I left with the clothes on my back and I never looked back. You can do it, you must do this for your children.