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H stepped the f*ckery up to another level this weekend.

488 replies

PinkGlitter17 · 28/02/2017 23:38

My god. I have a H who's financially and emotionally abusive, and 2 DCs (8 & 2.5). I was posting last week about his behaviour and got tons of LTB responses, which I agree with, and then on Sunday he stepped it up. I'm still in shock and keep having to remind myself that it really happened.

not a good start to a post, is it?

I was setting out with DD to go to an art workshop that morning, and had left the kitchen in a mess, dishes and cake-baking gear piled up on the side, all ready to do them when i returned 2 hrs later. H comes into kitchen with DS, sees pots, asks incredulously whether it was all stuff that needed washing. I said yes, and that I would do it when I got back.

And he said NO! I was not to go anywhere until the kitchen was clean, "the way it should be left". i fought my corner and said he couldn't stop me from going out, and was he forbidding me?! He just kept saying no, I wasn't going anywhere. I carried on putting my shoes on, could see DD looking scared, DS (2) just watching.

H then went into our bedroom, ranting at me about a) a job he had decided i must apply for but "hadn't been arsed to get" and had been pathetic about, and b) taking the kids to my parents' for 2.5 days over Xmas, when he was working 1 of those days and had kicked up endless shit about me doing it when he had said he really didn't want me to. He said if I went to the art class, that was it, we were done, and he would leave. i stood in the hallway like a rabbit in the headlights, watching him and listening to him rant, thinking this was a crucial moment and that I was being totally watched by DD and shouldn't let H dictate to me like that, or deny me "permission" to go out. Rock and a hard place.

DD came to me, I went back in the kitchen, and H shut the door and held it so I couldn't open it. I shouted at him - "stop barricading me in the kitchen" - and after a few moments we got out. By the way, DS had been on his side of the door, so saw Daddy's behaviour {sad}

DD & I went in living room, sat on sofa, ignored H - he came in and loomed over us, glaring. i told him not to do that in front of DD. He said that cuddling DD wasn't getting the kitchen cleaned.

After a while, I went into the kitchen and DD followed me, bless her, and said she was going to help . We did all the fucking dishes and cleaned up, then were due to our cakes to a bake-off, so we got ready to go - and then found that H had buggered off in the car.

So I took DD and DS to where we were going, thinking that maybe H really had left. I got through the afternoon despite H's bullshit, and went to a women's meeting at the pub too, where everyone had brought their kids so the children all played while we chatted.

When we got home, I didn't know what to expect. H had cooked tea so we all had that. Long story short, after 1.5 days of (mutual) silence, H is speaking to me again, pretty much as if nothing happened. I've been reading about the cycle of charm-anger-explosion-calm that abusers use.

I've also been looking at benefits entitlements, spousal maintenance, child mainteneance, divorce settlements, and a house that's for rent in our village.

So sick of this shit.

OP posts:
PinkGlitter17 · 01/03/2017 00:35

He works nights and sleeps all day before a shift, so I would have time to go.

OP posts:
PinkGlitter17 · 01/03/2017 00:35

My family are 3 hours away.

OP posts:
PinkGlitter17 · 01/03/2017 00:36

We rent and it is all in his name.

OP posts:
Sugarlumps333 · 01/03/2017 00:36

So what are you actually going to do? There have been women in your position before and they leave and survive - better than survive. There is always a reason to stay, but I would just take my DC and go to women's refuge - meanwhile exploring legal options. There are things out there, you just need to research the options. Don't think anyone on musmnet can tell you anything you don't already know yourself. Sorry not being short just don't understand what type of answers / advice you are hoping for? Loads of people don't drive for instance - why would that be a reason to not leave? You already have confirmation that other people think your husband is a scumbag and you should get your DC out of the situation.

PinkGlitter17 · 01/03/2017 00:38

I feel absolutely sick.

OP posts:
BettyBaggins · 01/03/2017 00:38

Call your family and ask them to get you and DC out of there.

AnyFucker · 01/03/2017 00:39

Pink, could you go and stay with family ?

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 01/03/2017 00:40

I don't think you should feel ashamed OP. You have been ground down over a number of years by him. He's the one who should be ashamed - you and your children deserve better than this.

Your friends are horrified by his behaviour and will help you. Ask for and accept whatever help you can in order to get away from him.

From reading both threads you seem to have reached a point where you feel able to do something - so get on it. NOW. For you and your children. You will be so much happier and financially better off without him.

Go and see a solicitor ASAP.

You can do this Flowers

JonesyAndTheSalad · 01/03/2017 00:46

What a fucker. I hope you keep coming back here Pink...we're all here to cheer you on as you leave that stupid bastard in the dust.

Flowers
blessedmummyov5 · 01/03/2017 00:47

Ltb ! By letting ur children see this and think it's normal it's harming the kids , do u want ur son to grow up and treat his wife like that or for ur daughter to be treated like that and stay because they will see that as normal , if u canni save urself save them from becoming the abuser and the abused , sorry if this sound harsh but mayb thinking like that will give u the strength to leave , they take in a lot of things kids that stick , remove them from the situation before the damage is done , take care op it's a scary thought leaving , iv done it before n was the best thing And scariest thing iv ever done canni believe I put up with verbal, mental , physical abuse for so long because I was scared I'd never cope alone , I did n became a stronger person for it u can do it Hun xFlowersWine

tipsytrifle · 01/03/2017 00:48

You aren't stuck. Overwhelmed yes, stuck - no. The whole point of deciding to leave - is to make that decision. Followed by planning within what you practically can and cannot do. There is no judgement involved in practicalities. They are what they are.

If you don't drive then you need another form of transport. Taxi, Van plus Driver, train plus what you can carry. Family, friends. Maybe even a plan made with help from Women's Aid. Have you talked with them at all? Make an inner timetable for when you could contact them while H is out. And ditch the shame. A useless emotion that only diverts from positive action by putting you further down than H is already managing to do.

What, in your heart of hearts would you like to do? Not what you'd like him to do, because he's already doing what he likes to do by dominating you and you have no power over his choices. What would YOU like to do about this madness?

blessedmummyov5 · 01/03/2017 00:53

Also if u do decide u can leave get all legal paperwork , birth certificates , passports , marriage certificate also bank statements payslips etc try hiding some money back even if it's just enuf for a few essentials then go to council with kids tell them uv had to flee ur home due to domestic violence they will have a duty to put u in temp housing till a house becomes available if getting to family is not an option turn up at council with ur bags and tell them u cannot go back due to fearing for ur safety x

highinthesky · 01/03/2017 00:57

OP you are not stuck. This is exactly the excuse my mum made.

Separate your kids from DH at all costs, and reset the boundaries with him.

KoalaDownUnder · 01/03/2017 01:05

You are not stuck. You can do it. Please do this for your children.

I don't have a wealth of practical advice, but I'm thinking of you. Flowers

Newyearnewbrain · 01/03/2017 01:05

Pink do you anyone near you who can drive you?

mathanxiety · 01/03/2017 01:07

OK, so now you have to make plans to leave this bastard.

Have you contacted Women's Aid at all?

Here is their number: 0808 2000 247.

www.womensaid.org.uk/ Website.

When you phone, leave a message if you get through to a voicemail. They will call you back if you tell them a good time to try. You can also e-mail.

Please make sure you log off MN when you finish a session, and also wipe your history.

You can do this, and your children will thank you.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 01/03/2017 01:13

Call your family. Unless they're also abusive arseholes, then they should be horrified at this level of twattery and WANT to help you get out - which you absolutely need to do.
You were restrained/imprisoned in the kitchen, ffs! OK, not for long, but still.
Next thing will be physical restraint on you personally, maybe.
Your DC should not have to see or hear any of this, they must have been so frightened.
And I'd have chucked all the fucking pans out the window rather than wash them under those circumstances - dear GOD what an arsehole he is!!

So please, call your family and get away from him ASAP.

AcrossthePond55 · 01/03/2017 01:19

Since you don't own a home you don't need to stay to try to keep a family home.

You say all the money is in his name, does he give you housekeeping or shopping money? Remember that you can 'time' your leaving for the day he gives it to you so you have some cash when you leave. Or you can start now to shave money off the housekeeping or do 'cash over' at the shops and start stashing it away as a 'fuck you fund'. Throw the receipts away in a bin on the street.

He'll have to pay child maintenance plus you'll be eligible for benefits, I'm sure.

Do you have time in the house when he's not there? Use it to gather up important papers; birth and marriage certs, passports, tax returns, banking information. Hide them if you can, or at least know where they are and make copies if you can. See a solicitor. Many do 1/2 free consults, but borrow the money for a consult if you must.

Please call your parents or family. Ask for help. I can tell you as God's honest truth, if I had a daughter and she called and told me your story I'd be there like a shot, I'd take you and your children in, even if we had to put sleeping bags down on the living room floor.

tessieandoz · 01/03/2017 01:25

Please please heed those wise words from Acrossthepond55
" Just remember, stealth is your friend. Be very quiet as you go about your plans. Don't threaten to leave, don't give him any inkling that you are even thinking about it.
Get your ducks in a row, seek legal advice, then leave, preferably when he is not home."
I stuck in a similar but also violent relationship for all the reasons you say and for all the reasons you don't. My 4 children, all grown now, are all damaged, the boy the worst. My ONE regret is not leaving sooner. I could write a treatise!

Contact a domestic refuge in advance. Do not leave in a dramatic fashion because that in itself will be damaging.

Lynnm63 · 01/03/2017 01:49

I haven't read your other threads but you must get you dd out. I cannot believe you washed the dishes but I guess he's worn you down. I agree call your family if my dd was ever in your situation I'd hope she would. I'd be in the car in a heartbeat. However difficult it might be once he's gone it can't be worst than how you're living now.

gluteustothemaximus · 01/03/2017 02:07

Please please go. For yourself, for your children. And please do it quietly when he isn't there. Hope you have family to go to. Leaving will be the best thing you've ever done x

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 01/03/2017 02:48

Other posters have given you great advice, OP. Just wanted to say I'm thinking of you and your DC's. I hope you can get your affairs sorted and get away from him very soon Flowers

ChrisYoungFuckingRocks · 01/03/2017 02:51

Contact your local Women's Refuge or Lighthouse. They'll help you. That's how I managed to leave my ex. I couldn't have done it without them. I got everything sorted and told him the Monday I was moving out on the Friday. And I did, with £146 to my name. My DDs and I are much happier now and slowly getting back on my feet. The best part of it is that my girls don't have to witness their dad verbally, mentally and emotionally abusing their mum on a daily basis.

And if you did get a job, what then? Do you think he'd just 'let' you go every day? He'd question you about what you did, who you were talking to, why you were wearing makeup, why you were home 1 minute late etc etc etc. It would probably make no difference, and may in fact make things worse.

My advice is to LTB, get yourself straight and start living again. Big hugs, and feel free to PM me if you need to talk. Flowers

NightWanderer · 01/03/2017 03:47

Can you not go to your parents? There's no money, there's no home. Wouldn't your best bet be for your dad to drive down and get you? Go back to your parents, look for work there. Perhaps they can help you with childcare. It would be hard at first starting over but you could gradually rebuild your life.

Chloe84 · 01/03/2017 06:34

I think you diffused the situation for the sake of your DC. He thinks he won because you did the dishes and he will step things up.

Your children are a consideration for you. He obviously doesn't care that he scared you and the DC.

Well done for getting your ducks in a row Flowers