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H stepped the f*ckery up to another level this weekend.

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PinkGlitter17 · 28/02/2017 23:38

My god. I have a H who's financially and emotionally abusive, and 2 DCs (8 & 2.5). I was posting last week about his behaviour and got tons of LTB responses, which I agree with, and then on Sunday he stepped it up. I'm still in shock and keep having to remind myself that it really happened.

not a good start to a post, is it?

I was setting out with DD to go to an art workshop that morning, and had left the kitchen in a mess, dishes and cake-baking gear piled up on the side, all ready to do them when i returned 2 hrs later. H comes into kitchen with DS, sees pots, asks incredulously whether it was all stuff that needed washing. I said yes, and that I would do it when I got back.

And he said NO! I was not to go anywhere until the kitchen was clean, "the way it should be left". i fought my corner and said he couldn't stop me from going out, and was he forbidding me?! He just kept saying no, I wasn't going anywhere. I carried on putting my shoes on, could see DD looking scared, DS (2) just watching.

H then went into our bedroom, ranting at me about a) a job he had decided i must apply for but "hadn't been arsed to get" and had been pathetic about, and b) taking the kids to my parents' for 2.5 days over Xmas, when he was working 1 of those days and had kicked up endless shit about me doing it when he had said he really didn't want me to. He said if I went to the art class, that was it, we were done, and he would leave. i stood in the hallway like a rabbit in the headlights, watching him and listening to him rant, thinking this was a crucial moment and that I was being totally watched by DD and shouldn't let H dictate to me like that, or deny me "permission" to go out. Rock and a hard place.

DD came to me, I went back in the kitchen, and H shut the door and held it so I couldn't open it. I shouted at him - "stop barricading me in the kitchen" - and after a few moments we got out. By the way, DS had been on his side of the door, so saw Daddy's behaviour {sad}

DD & I went in living room, sat on sofa, ignored H - he came in and loomed over us, glaring. i told him not to do that in front of DD. He said that cuddling DD wasn't getting the kitchen cleaned.

After a while, I went into the kitchen and DD followed me, bless her, and said she was going to help . We did all the fucking dishes and cleaned up, then were due to our cakes to a bake-off, so we got ready to go - and then found that H had buggered off in the car.

So I took DD and DS to where we were going, thinking that maybe H really had left. I got through the afternoon despite H's bullshit, and went to a women's meeting at the pub too, where everyone had brought their kids so the children all played while we chatted.

When we got home, I didn't know what to expect. H had cooked tea so we all had that. Long story short, after 1.5 days of (mutual) silence, H is speaking to me again, pretty much as if nothing happened. I've been reading about the cycle of charm-anger-explosion-calm that abusers use.

I've also been looking at benefits entitlements, spousal maintenance, child mainteneance, divorce settlements, and a house that's for rent in our village.

So sick of this shit.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 02/03/2017 13:53

Very very pleased to hear this turn of events, Pink and I second keeping quiet to your DD about what your plan is. She might inadvertently blurt something out, so it's far better and safer that she knows precisely nothing about it until it happens.

I'm sure you can pack stuff without her realising - maybe on the morning of the party, you could say "it's a sleepover, bring your favourite toys too" while your H is sleeping, so she doesn't leave any precious item behind.

Absolutely 100% agree with taking stuff you'd be sorry to lose - get that out of the house beforehand if you can - a friend of mine was sent video by her fuckwit EA ex of him burning family photos/pictures that she'd left because she thought he'd like to have them! Shock Too cruel. :(

So yes, take it if you think you'll want it - he is very likely to destroy or hide it from you because it is a way of maintaining control to continue to cause you pain.

PinkGlitter17 · 02/03/2017 14:32

Starting packing tonight.

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WatchingFromTheWings · 02/03/2017 14:38

Good luck. When I left my EA ExH I stashed anything important (documents and spare keys incase they were taken from me) at a friends house.

MrsDustyBusty · 02/03/2017 14:45

So pleased for you and the children, OP. Best of luck with everything.

passmethewineplease · 02/03/2017 14:49

Really glad to read you're updates OP. Glad your mum has been welcoming, all to often on threads like these people worry about putting their family out. But family is family and I'm sure most wouldn't want to help.

You're doing the right thing for you and your children children. You all deserve to lead a happy stress free life. Smile

ILoveMyMonkey · 02/03/2017 14:54

This is such an amazing thread. You are so brave Pink and it's great that your family and friend are all supporting you to get away. Good luck, and have a very happy future with your lovely DC.

MrsDustyBusty · 02/03/2017 14:56

But family is family and I'm sure most wouldn't want to help.

Indeed. Reading threads like this really drives home the importance of emphasising to your children that they can always come home no matter what happens and you'll come for them if they need it. Everyone needs to be able to get away safely to a loving environment after this kind of experience.

ThreesMyMagicNumber · 02/03/2017 15:14

Well done and good luck!

Here's to the start of a new life free from tyranny!!!

AcrossthePond55 · 02/03/2017 15:27

Do you feel it yet? That feeling of 'lightness' in your spirit? If not, you will soon. It's a wonderful feeling.

Be 'stealth' about your packing. Remember that it may be better to leave something behind than to arouse suspicion.

I agree with getting important documents out of the house or at least photographing them. But do take original birth certificates and passports if at all possible. The idea of saying that the school has them is a good one!

Do you think it likely that he'd notice things being moved around or be watching? We had to move my BFF out when her ex wasn't home. My DH (who was his best mate) arranged for them to be gone camping overnight and we moved the things she wanted (furniture and all) to an apt she'd rented without his knowledge in the space of 8 hours. He was absolutely gobsmacked to come back and find their house (and the bank accounts) half-empty. He thought he had her so 'cowed' that she'd never have the courage to defy him. Hopefully your H will be the same.

passmethewineplease · 02/03/2017 15:49

Sorry that was meant to read most would want to help not wouldn't Blush

PinkGlitter17 · 02/03/2017 16:09

Across - I just don't know whether he'd notice. He is on 3 night shifts, last one Friday night, so is in bed all day Wed-Fri. Most of my clothes I keep in DS's room, so our room won't be that different when I've removed the things I want to. I think I'll put a bluffy post on fb saying I'm looking fwd to having a good tidy up in our room, and follow it with a 'feeling accomplished' emoji!

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twattymctwatterson · 02/03/2017 17:23

Well done Pink - you are absolutely doing the right thing for you and your kids. Your life will be so much better without this arsehole

Astro55 · 02/03/2017 17:52

Yep - bin bags would work - ask a friend to drive by and collect the rubbish!!

Keep going - and please update so we know you are free and it all goes to plan x

Atenco · 02/03/2017 18:20

Do you feel it yet? That feeling of 'lightness' in your spirit?

Oh I remember that, I was walking on cloud 9

Make sure, OP, that he doesn't get access to this thread

BluePheasant · 02/03/2017 18:38

Fantastic updates OP! 100% behind you! Get out and don't look back Smile

Don't try and pack too much, it's just stuff after all. Take the essentials and anything that is particularly special to you or the DC that you don't want to risk disappearing. The lighter the load the easier it will be for you.

StormZelda · 02/03/2017 19:38

prioritise what can't be replaced. I didn't take my photos and he threw them in a skip. I posted some of my more expensive clothes back to my mum and dad's but I left 90% of my clothes and nearly all of the kids' stuff. Walked out with one rucksack (and a pile of debts on my credit card thanks to FA x). Don't worry about packing too much. Honestly, just go to a supermarket for the kids stuff and you'll build back up a wardrobe over time. There is nothing now (bar my photos) that I wish I'd taken.

And act normal. My x twigged and stayed home from work the day I was to leave which meant that he actually attacked me as I walked out the door. I'd planned it so carefully and he just sensed. So be your normal self, ie, if you'd usually push back a bit but still end up doing what he said, do that.

StormZelda · 02/03/2017 19:39

pinkglitter, good Idea, put up a post about MARIE KONDO-ing

LumelaMme · 02/03/2017 20:31

Good luck, OP.

And Flowers to all of you on this thread who have gone through this sort of thing already.

AcrossthePond55 · 02/03/2017 20:38

You defo don't want to move things if it will raise his suspicions. Take pictures with your camera. Or, as others are saying, do a 'clean' and put them somewhere all together as part of a 'reorganization' so he doesn't know where they are so you can retrieve them at a later date.

Bin bags are a great idea. Especially if you can say that they're 'old things' for a charity shop and pop them in your friend's car to 'drop off'.

Just remember, though, if you feel he has the slightest suspicion it's far better to walk out of the house with just the clothes on your back than it would be to try to sneak things out if he's 'on the lookout'. Once you're away, there will be ways to retrieve things legally without him being able to harass you.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 02/03/2017 21:07

I think a bluff post on FB about having a tidy up/clear out is a great idea

Just concentrate on the important stuff. Clothes etc can be replaced easily, it's just stuff at the end of the day. You actually don't need to take that much with you if it comes to it tbh

If you go too mad you might alert him - not worth it for a few items of clothing imo.

Documents/passports/birth certs/bank info/etc squirrelled away in a bag within a bag of clothes - just don't underestimate him. He may well have sensed something amiss - hopefully not but you never know

You'll be surprised what you can leave behind without worry tbh OP - most things are replaceable and you will get help from friends and family

You are doing the right thing for you and your DC - well done OP Flowers

PinkGlitter17 · 02/03/2017 21:26

Sorted transport with my brother.

Now sitting here sobbing, feel like my head's going to explode. Fucking hell.

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MintToBe · 02/03/2017 21:26

Delurking to tell you I did this 4 years ago. Threw my dogs, two bags of clothes, my great grandmothers china and a box of photos into a van whilst he was at his mums 200 miles away and moved 500 miles away to Scotland. I left a four bedroom house full of stuff. It's all replaceable. Your sanity, life and kids well being are paramount. You CAN do this.

BluePheasant · 02/03/2017 21:36

As hard and crazy as it feels right now, just keep reminding yourself this is for a better life for you and your DCs.

A chance for DD to grow up learning that women are not destined to be treated like this.

A chance DS to grow up learning that women are not there to be controlled and dictated to by men.

A chance for all of you to live safely without the tension and fear of what his next move will be.

You will all be ok Flowers

StormZelda · 02/03/2017 21:36

fight or flight hormones with nowhere to go.
can you go for a run, or do a workout. or would he be suspicious?

AcrossthePond55 · 02/03/2017 21:37

Every little step you make also brings a realization of what you have been living with, so don't be surprised at tears. It's natural. My ex was abusive and I finally kicked him out. I was joyful and yet I had my moments of tears. Just remember you are crying for the loss of the dream, not the loss of the man. You had your dream of what your life would be, and he has stamped it into the dirt and now you have to deal with that on your own. But deal with it you will.

Have your cry. Then wash your face and make a cup of tea (or coffee). Take a deep breath. Take another step. You can do this. You WILL do this.

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