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H stepped the f*ckery up to another level this weekend.

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PinkGlitter17 · 28/02/2017 23:38

My god. I have a H who's financially and emotionally abusive, and 2 DCs (8 & 2.5). I was posting last week about his behaviour and got tons of LTB responses, which I agree with, and then on Sunday he stepped it up. I'm still in shock and keep having to remind myself that it really happened.

not a good start to a post, is it?

I was setting out with DD to go to an art workshop that morning, and had left the kitchen in a mess, dishes and cake-baking gear piled up on the side, all ready to do them when i returned 2 hrs later. H comes into kitchen with DS, sees pots, asks incredulously whether it was all stuff that needed washing. I said yes, and that I would do it when I got back.

And he said NO! I was not to go anywhere until the kitchen was clean, "the way it should be left". i fought my corner and said he couldn't stop me from going out, and was he forbidding me?! He just kept saying no, I wasn't going anywhere. I carried on putting my shoes on, could see DD looking scared, DS (2) just watching.

H then went into our bedroom, ranting at me about a) a job he had decided i must apply for but "hadn't been arsed to get" and had been pathetic about, and b) taking the kids to my parents' for 2.5 days over Xmas, when he was working 1 of those days and had kicked up endless shit about me doing it when he had said he really didn't want me to. He said if I went to the art class, that was it, we were done, and he would leave. i stood in the hallway like a rabbit in the headlights, watching him and listening to him rant, thinking this was a crucial moment and that I was being totally watched by DD and shouldn't let H dictate to me like that, or deny me "permission" to go out. Rock and a hard place.

DD came to me, I went back in the kitchen, and H shut the door and held it so I couldn't open it. I shouted at him - "stop barricading me in the kitchen" - and after a few moments we got out. By the way, DS had been on his side of the door, so saw Daddy's behaviour {sad}

DD & I went in living room, sat on sofa, ignored H - he came in and loomed over us, glaring. i told him not to do that in front of DD. He said that cuddling DD wasn't getting the kitchen cleaned.

After a while, I went into the kitchen and DD followed me, bless her, and said she was going to help . We did all the fucking dishes and cleaned up, then were due to our cakes to a bake-off, so we got ready to go - and then found that H had buggered off in the car.

So I took DD and DS to where we were going, thinking that maybe H really had left. I got through the afternoon despite H's bullshit, and went to a women's meeting at the pub too, where everyone had brought their kids so the children all played while we chatted.

When we got home, I didn't know what to expect. H had cooked tea so we all had that. Long story short, after 1.5 days of (mutual) silence, H is speaking to me again, pretty much as if nothing happened. I've been reading about the cycle of charm-anger-explosion-calm that abusers use.

I've also been looking at benefits entitlements, spousal maintenance, child mainteneance, divorce settlements, and a house that's for rent in our village.

So sick of this shit.

OP posts:
Teacupinastorm · 13/03/2017 22:04

I hope you're ok OP. Have been thinking of you. Please update us if you can.

PinkGlitter17 · 13/03/2017 22:41

Hello beauts. I've been thinking about you, too.
Well, when I arrived at my mum's, I rang H to say I thought we should separate. He blew his top, saying he couldn't believe I would take the children away, calling me a twat. Said dd couldn't miss school,so he was getting in the car and coming right there.
I'll explain more later -

OP posts:
Bananamanfan · 13/03/2017 22:52

I hope you're ok now, pink. Are you at your mum's?

BluePheasant · 13/03/2017 22:55

Hope you're ok Pink sounds a bit worrying.

BettyBaggins · 13/03/2017 23:09

Good to hear from you Pink.

Lynnm63 · 13/03/2017 23:26

Glad to hear from you. I've been thinking about you a lot.

PinkGlitter17 · 14/03/2017 00:17

OK. After initial explosion from H, the next day he rang me and suggested that I move back in, live separate lives but under same roof while I sort a place to move to. That is what we have been largely doing for a long time now anyway.
So we came back. Dd back to school/friends/routine; ds back to nursery ; me back to friends/running; kids back to Daddy. It's been a week now, and it's going alright. I feel SO much stronger and the constant FEAR I was living by has gone. It's a mighty FUCK YOU to his standards and his control of me. I think I've shown him that he doesn't have that hold over me any more.
There is major silence between us, but I don't want to have negotiations without someone present. It would turn into a screaming match and he would dominate. So we haven't done any discussing of access, money, and etc.
I know that many of you would be shocked to hear that I went back, but my leaving has shaken things up in a major way. Things are different now. I I have power.
I've had messages of support from ppl I wouldn't have expected to get in touch with me. Dismayed to see fb shit-storm after H posted on the day I told him we were over. He painted a picture of utter bewilderment and innocence, as one friend put it. Funny to see all the comments from mutual friends. They will never know the truth, so I cannot concern myself with what they think. H is known of old as afriendly barman who'd do anything for anyone, a gentle soul who could never be called intimidating, a great dad, etc. Ha!!
Everything has been blown so far out of the water that his reputation is, among some people, undergoing some changes......
My family and friends are just stunning.
MIL already knows a lot of stuff H has done. She wants to ring me. I'm curious to see how the conversation will go. We're really fond of each other.
Bloody he'll, and what a turnaround.

OP posts:
mumsoftwins · 14/03/2017 00:29

Hey I haven't read all the responses but I just wanted to say your post broke my heart to read. Its so similar to where I was at, but luckily pre children. I did eventually take the courage to leave but I made it easier by ensuring I had a network of friends and family to stay with for the first few weeks before getting my own place. Don't worry too much about having everything sorted before you go, leaving is the most positive next move. Good luck with it and I hope you are ok.

mathanxiety · 14/03/2017 00:49

So now you need to find a solicitor.

The calm won't last. He will test you, and you will eventually find yourself walking on eggshells again.

The H you see right now is not the real person.
he is.

I recommend you look up hoovering in the context of domestic violence.

mathanxiety · 14/03/2017 00:50

he is. = He is ... putting on an act until he can find a way to get the upper hand again.

AcrossthePond55 · 14/03/2017 01:04

Math is right. Right now you're both walking on eggshells around each other to keep the peace. But he will stop eventually, slowly and insidiously. Please don't be lulled into a sense of security. It's what he wants, for you to drift along thinking 'this isn't so bad' until you find yourself back to square one.

Get thee to a solicitor while this 'detente' is going on. Do it quietly, but do it now.

NightWanderer · 14/03/2017 01:33

This is not a good situation at all. Do you really think he's going to let you win so easily? Do you really think he's going to let you have the power? I really think you are in a very dangerous situation. This is why it takes an abused woman so many attempts to leave an abusive marriage and each time it escalates a little more. Please be very careful and get out as soon as possible.

Lynnm63 · 14/03/2017 02:05

I'd start planning to leave. I don't believe for a second he's changed just he's playing a part whilst he works out how best to reassert control. I don't have any experience of such relationships but I doubt he's had a Damascene conversion.

ChishandFips33 · 14/03/2017 06:16

I understand why you feel the way I do but I agree with the others that this is not the reality - he's an iceberg and what you're seeing is what he's letting you see/believe - there'll be a lot of planning going on under the surface.

Is your money protected? Can you start to move some to your account only, get cash back from the weekly shop etc. get copies of your documents or leave them at your parents. Leave some clothes/essential bits there too

You are feeling your most strongest which is fantastic - don't lose sight of the massive step you've taken Flowers

However, (and I don't want to dampen your spirit) the fact he backed down so quick worries me that he's lulled you in to a false sense of power/security

Please be careful and keep the ball moving for your permanent exit

ChishandFips33 · 14/03/2017 06:17

Feel the way you do

Mamia15 · 14/03/2017 08:04

Your poor DC :( what a way to bring them up - please do be careful when planning your exit.

OliviaStabler · 14/03/2017 08:46

This calm won't last, it can't. Get out Flowers

welshmist · 14/03/2017 09:06

I have to agree you need to get out. See solicitors sort out money quickly and quietly. My neighbour hood was rocked a few years ago when a woman's body was found in her home her partner had killed her for wanting out. We live in a quiet area and imagine that things like this happen in big cities, not true

cestlavielife · 14/03/2017 09:18

You are deluding yourself.
He has shown you that with a little nugget you come running back.
It will all blow up again.
This is the calm before the next storm.
Keep your bag packed.

Bananamanfan · 14/03/2017 09:21

I'm really sorry you've gone back, Pink. You've done exactly what he told you to do. He doesn't get to make any decisions about what is best for your dc at the moment, he is an abuser. His own best interests are his motivation.

BadTasteFlump · 14/03/2017 10:50

I feel genuinely scared for you OP. Whatever way you want to dress it up, you've gone back to him, and that never ends well.

Please look after yourself and your DC. And watch your back 24/7 Flowers

YetAnotherSpartacus · 14/03/2017 11:22

I was so excited over this thread. Finally, I thought, here is a woman who has done it and made the break. Look, what you do is your concern, but I echo others that he is playing nice and he will strike back hard when he thinks the tidal wave is over. Seen it a zillion times before.

MadMags · 14/03/2017 11:25

All this talk of having the power...

You're dragging your dc into this, OP. It's so unfair.

BadTasteFlump · 14/03/2017 11:28

OP how did your mum/brother etc react when you told them he was coming to get you and you were going back to him?
Sad

GreenPeppers · 14/03/2017 11:29

Have you contacted a solicitor yet?
And what is your plan to get out of the house (or to kick him out)?

There is no way you can carry on living under the same, roof. He will manage to put you back into your place if you do that, strong or not.