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Support thread for those of us having to coparent with a narc or very difficult ex partner thread 5

485 replies

Lilacpink40 · 17/02/2017 09:47

Open to everyone, please come and share your experience. Will post a link to useful support information below.

Previous Thread (4) is here:
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WN= Wank narc (aka Shit Head SH or exP or whatever you prefer).

OP posts:
RedastheRose · 10/03/2017 00:20

Well done Teabay and well done to your DD. WN's don't care about treating DC's like that if they think it's going to spoil their plans, after all the whole world 🌎 is supposed to revolve around them isn't it.

Can you imagine what would happen if we ever did get a WN island, they'd all be dead in a month because there would be no supply to do their bidding or work for them.

Good news about the legal aid Natsku and the fact that he's blown his cover by threatening another person can only help in getting his PR removed.

Sorry about the rubbish day dusters we all have them, thinking positive thoughts is the only thing that gets me through (and the hope that karma catches up with my WN one day).

Teabay · 10/03/2017 06:46

Tell me to get a grip.

Yesterday I saw an old neighbour at the shop, not seen her for ages. I had to explain about being divorced from exH, she was surprised and sad.

Last night I felt quiet and this morning I'm actually (for five minutes) wondering if I should have been tougher and stuck it out!

WTF???? Help me take my own advice! What is wrong with me??

NaiceBiscuits · 10/03/2017 07:05

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ontheball75 · 10/03/2017 10:59

teabay It's normal to feel like that. When I feel bad about it I just have to remind myself that although there were good bits it was ultimately a toxic environment for me to be in and as tough as things can sometimes be now, I feel much happier that I am out of the relationship.

Ohb0llocks · 10/03/2017 14:48

Sorry I haven't posted much; I have been lurking around though. I hope everyone is well?

Well, after 5 months of trying me and DP have finally conceived (found out today!)

So hopefully even though I'm a complete stranger in the grand scheme of things it might make a few people smile.

Flowers and Wine to anyone having to deal with any wns this weekend. Hope it's a peaceful one for you all

Natsku · 10/03/2017 14:48

Congrats Ohb so happy for you!

Ohb0llocks · 10/03/2017 15:01

Thank you!

How is the situation with your brother now? Sorry if I've missed any updates.

Natsku · 10/03/2017 15:07

Still in waiting mode but he says that he expects to hear from the High Court that he can appeal in the summer. He's been banned from Twitter though Angry

RedastheRose · 10/03/2017 17:01

Congratulations ohb nice to have good news on this thread. Xx

nicenewdusters · 10/03/2017 20:36

That's lovely news Ohb , your ds is going to be so excited.

Teabay Don't worry about having an attack of the rose tinted glasses. I have them on and off. Sometimes I think about couples I know and wonder why he/she puts up with certain things. I think back to my relationship and think it was, on the face of it, much stronger etc. But we were really challenged and it didn't work out, so apparently not that strong!

I've learnt not to compare. My friend is living with her adulterous partner who treats her horribly. But she'd rather be in a couple, so that's her choice. Another friend has a dh who's very downbeat, and together they're - to me - a pretty miserable pair. But it's a second marriage for both, they get along and don't want to split. Again, her situation, her choice.

What I'm trying to say is only you knew what your relationship was like, and only you could decide. Nothing is ever what it looks like from the outside. Flowers

Chrystal1982 · 11/03/2017 11:49

Flowers To all, sorry not been around much, I forgot how much work newborns are! My little man is 5 weeks old now and doing really well, he weighed 8lb14oz last week (gained 14oz in just one week!)

Had family court hearing on 23rd Feb well it was supposed to be but it got postponed at the very last second because of a conflict of interest (details too outting) anyway the upshot is that SF was left without representation 😂 Latest info from my solicitor is that he currently intends to represent himself at the next hearing on 28th April, I haven't laughed so hard in ages!! My (very expensive) barrister is going to chew him up and spit him out 😂😂😂 Karma at last! Lol
Sometimes I think I must be strange because I've never had one second of regret or 'what ifs' about getting away from SF and divorcing him, probably on reflection it's because I don't think I ever really loved him, was young and stupid when I met him, just 16, took me far too long to leave especially as I'd emotionally disconnected from him years before and basically felt absolutely nothing for him.

ohb many congratulations 🎉

Natsku · 11/03/2017 15:49

Bet it'll be brilliant in court when your SF tries to represent himself! Grin I wonder if my ex will represent himself as he still doesn't seem to have a lawyer - our appeal court date is set for 16th of May, really hope he does Grin

Ohb0llocks · 11/03/2017 20:00

Thanks guys! I'm super worried though, it all seems too good to be true. And somewhat of a final 'moving on' from exp (even though me and DP have been engaged for over a year!)

Natsku I am Angryon your brothers behalf.

Chrystal god I would love to be a fly on the wall at that hearing!!

Natsku · 11/03/2017 20:15

My brother doesn't give up, he just keeps making new accounts and retweeting his old tweets to try and find out exactly which tweet is the one that got him banned (probably the one that talked about people punching Nazis)

nicenewdusters · 11/03/2017 20:36

OhB It probably seems too good to be true but only in the context of your previous relationship. It's really completely normal - and lovely. You've met a great man who clearly also cares deeply for your ds. You're engaged and now having a child together. Everything you all deserve, so try not to worry, and enjoy !

Ohb0llocks · 11/03/2017 20:47

Thanks dusters that made me well up SmileBlush

Bloody good on your brother! Hope everything ends up ok.

Lilacpink40 · 12/03/2017 22:03

Lovely to hear baby news, Chrystal with your DS growing well and Ohb your new news!

I'm caring less and less about my WN. He still tries to twist things but I'm busy with DCs, work, BF and frinds so I don’t have much time for his twatery 😂

I never thought a year ago that I wouldn't care so much. Hope that helps anyone and everyone closer to break up. Flowers

OP posts:
Lilacpink40 · 12/03/2017 22:05

As in helps to know time can dampen things down and life carries on. Smile

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Teabay · 13/03/2017 08:15

Hi all - just asking the universe to send me some good vibes and strength today. I'm back in work following time off after en took it's toll.
I'm frozen with fear - any thoughts would be gratefully received.

BoringUsername17 · 13/03/2017 08:58

Good luck for work today Teabay. One step at a time. Hopefully it will take your mind off things. Does anyone at work know your situation?

Natsku · 13/03/2017 09:18

Good luck at work Teabay you are strong

Chrystal1982 · 13/03/2017 10:09

Good luck Teabay

Yes I'm rather looking forward to the hearing now, he's always needed someone to tell him what to do and to turn his verbal diarrhoea into some sort of coherent (if flimsy) argument previously, whenever he has to speak for himself it's all 'I want, I want' instead of 'what the kids want' which is what representation does for the twat lol I have a wonderful barrister who is a straight talking woman who takes no shit 😂
Try not to worry ohb, you deserve to be happy! That 'moving on' feeling is great when it sinks in, it's like the final chapter of (a crappy) book that's finally come to end, you can now chuck back on the shelf and move on to new and better things 😁

BoringUsername17 · 13/03/2017 14:23

Lilacpink good to know there is life after WN. I'm riding the emotional rollercoaster here of terrible grief at the end of a 23 year relationship, fury and disbelief that he has already reeled in another poor sucker and worry about the DCs. I've managed to get away for a solo break for a few days which has been great. I've really enjoyed it but the only downer is that I feel sad that I am not sharing this with him. We had some great holidays together, he just wasn't much cop at everyday life.

nicenewdusters · 13/03/2017 19:36

Hope your day at work was better than anticipated Teabay . I was in a similar situation many years ago, and had had 9 months of CBT. I remember having a few little cards in my pocket. I can't remember what they said exactly, just things like what's the worst that can happen, nobody else can see what you're feeling, that sort of thing. It's weird to think of it now, but it helped.

Lilac That's so good to read about you caring less and less about your WN. I like to think of him disappearing down a little well for you, with just a tiny plaintiff voice calling from the bottom (I'm evil!)

Boring Nice to see you got some time away to yourself. I think the word grief is exactly right, especially after 23 years. So many people who haven't been through something similar just don't realise the depth of feelings involved. Also that the foundations of your world are shaken. My relationship was almost 13 years. I know a couple of people who think I must not be that bothered because we weren't married !! Erm, yes, of course, that's how it works - NOT !! Grin

Saw HJM twice today (sighs). No waving on either side, I'm not sure he knows it's me because of the new duster mobile. I might be seeing him tomorrow at work, fingers crossed.

Teabay · 13/03/2017 21:24

Hi

Thank you for your thoughts - today turned out ok. It was V V V hard at first - it took me two attempts to drive actually to my place of work (!) but when I finally got there, people were pleased to see me. They were lovely, actually.
It was pretty relentless and I left at the end of the day with a huge list of jobs - I'm hoping the corner has been turned!

Then I've come home to a massive WN incident - I can't bring myself to share it now - it helps to know that you all know what I mean!

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