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What kind of men use prostitutes?

999 replies

Snugglepalace · 08/02/2017 09:51

Dh has an outside job which involves spending time on various roads within towns and villages.
A couple of weeks ago he was working on a street in our local town. An everyday street with semi detached homes.
After a day or so Dh and his work colleagues noticed one particular house had a lot of 'visitors'. All the visitors were well dressed men arriving in nice cars. It averaged around 4 men per hour!
At lunchtime a car pulled up (the driver had pizzas) and the door was opened,there was an older woman in the hallway and several younger looking women loitering in the hallway also.

Dh and workmates are convinced it was a brothel. Over the weeks that they were working there they would glare at the men going in and said some of them looked very embarrassed once they realised they had been noticed, one even parked in a nearby supermarket and tried to get in the back way.
I know these things go on but what got me was the thought that surely, several, if not most of these men must have (oblivious?!) partners etc.

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DianaMemorialJam · 09/02/2017 15:43

Purple obviously, sensible precautions taken, a woman being paid for a 'date' is at much less risk of harm than if she was in a room alone with a man who wished to pay for sex. But Sparrow is right; if that man then decides he wants more, he could easily make it happen if he was so inclined unfortunately.

venusinscorpio · 09/02/2017 15:43

She didn't "miss your point" you jumped on what she said and twisted it to fit what you wanted to say. I called you goady because you're either goady or have issues with reading comprehension.

TheSparrowhawk · 09/02/2017 15:43

'I feel like the act of paying gives the power though. Same in any transactional encounter, even in shops and restaurants - the purchaser holds the power.'

Of course it does. The person paying gets to choose and the person who's being paid has to serve. The power lies with the person who is paying - what happens is their choice.

But apart from that, most men are bigger than most women. So just in terms of pure physical power a woman is at a disadvantage.

HorridHenryrule · 09/02/2017 15:44

I walk down a dark path sometimes I could get raped walking down that path. There is risks everywhere you go. Someone could get in your house kill your husband and do horrendous things to you.

HorridHenryrule · 09/02/2017 15:45

Venus I'm reading on a phone and trying to cook at the same time.

venusinscorpio · 09/02/2017 15:45

Do you think the risks are comparable?

venusinscorpio · 09/02/2017 15:46

So?

TFPsa · 09/02/2017 15:46

@TheSparrowhawk - that's a slightly unfair question. The answer to it is tied up with society's views of that line of work and so on, and also the circumstances in which some sex workers end up doing it (addiction, other financial imperatives, other options, etc). I'd hope that I'd always be able to help her out moneywise, within reason. Like most fathers I'd be faintly protective of her 'virtue', e.g. I'd hate the idea of her being promiscuous at University, especially if emotional insecurity or loneliness was part of the reason for it. But if I wasn't able to help her for whatever reason, she was doing it for a vaguely defined period of time driven by defensible financial needs or wants, safely in terms of her physical and mental health then, yes, I'd accept it certainly, i can think of plenty of worse things.

TheSparrowhawk · 09/02/2017 15:48

'I walk down a dark path sometimes I could get raped walking down that path. There is risks everywhere you go. Someone could get in your house kill your husband and do horrendous things to you.'

That is true unfortunately.

However, you are at much greater risk being in a room with a man who wants sex than being on a path. Plus if you do get raped, you're slightly more likely to get a conviction if you're not a prostitute (that shouldn't be the case btw but it is).

HorridHenryrule · 09/02/2017 15:48

Yes women are vulnerable where ever they go. A man could sexually assault you at work.

BeMorePanda · 09/02/2017 15:48

@sassandfaff

brilliant post!

venusinscorpio · 09/02/2017 15:48

Why is that an unfair question? Every prostitute is someone's daughter, right?

SarcasmMode · 09/02/2017 15:48

Entitled men.

You never hear of women paying for sex - even though orgasm is less likely to happen for them.

It's a patriarchy that thinks women are commodities / usable like a pet.

It's quite worrying really!

TheSparrowhawk · 09/02/2017 15:50

'I can think of plenty of worse things.'

Really, like what?

sassandfaff · 09/02/2017 15:50

lottie it blows my mind on how sex workers and their users, be it prostitute and John or pornstar and Wanker, actually seem to despise each other.

Neither thinks very highly of the other. It's really quite bizarre, when they both rely on the other.

Why aren't they full of gratitude for each other's role in the supposedly mutual transaction?

HorridHenryrule · 09/02/2017 15:51

I agree with sparrow it does create more risk but that's the route that some choose to take. To who ever is an escort on this thread does anyone know where you are when you enter their property?

TheSparrowhawk · 09/02/2017 15:51

'A man could sexually assault you at work.'

Yes and when your work is being alone in a room with them and they're paying you to do what they want the chances of being sexually assaulted are much much much higher.

The fact that women can be and are sexually assaulted all the time doesn't make prostitution any better, it just illustrates how dangerous it is.

sassandfaff · 09/02/2017 15:53

bemorepanda
Thanks.

DianaMemorialJam · 09/02/2017 15:56

i can think of plenty of worse things.

Like..?!

If I had a daughter and she turned to prostitution I would be heartbroken. I would be distraught and worried about her wellbeing. I would not sleep at night.

TFPsa · 09/02/2017 15:56

@TheSparrowhawk - y'know, poverty, illness (physical or mental), violence (ditto), the list goes on.

DianaMemorialJam · 09/02/2017 15:56

Oops X post Sparrow

iremembericod · 09/02/2017 15:57

It always strikes me that when I hear and observe happy hookers saying it makes them happy and is super empowering that the women involved are as incapable of true intimacy as the men who pay for them. And that is seemingly how it works.

It's rare for a prostituted woman to have a healthy monogamous relationship, as I think has been shown on this thread and pretty much anywhere you look. Yet, scratch beneath the surface and often that is what is desired and the brief intimacy of a punt goes some way to achieve this "I like to make clients happy" etc.

It's a toxic mix of people incapable of true intimacy. And the good money deepens this further by giving the woman a certain status, purpose and validation.

DianaMemorialJam · 09/02/2017 15:59

T if your daughter was a prositute she would be at a much higher risk of experiencing violence or developing a mental illness if something happened to her, than if she worked in a call centre for instance

ShoutOutToMyEx · 09/02/2017 16:00

y'know, poverty, illness (physical or mental), violence (ditto), the list goes on.

For lots of, if not most, sex workers (yes yes not the ones on this thread, I know), that is quite a succinct description of their daily lives.

DianaMemorialJam · 09/02/2017 16:01

Shout much better put than I Grin

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