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Craving Male Attention

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Minkii · 02/01/2017 14:23

I am married but I have always craved male attention. I lost a lot of weight about 3 years ago (I gave up chocolate and exercised) I am flirty and funny and love attention. I know it is wrong so I do not need to be told off. I don't have any male friends who have not tested the waters with me. I have had all sorts of dalliances with men. Work colleagues, bosses, my husband's work colleagues, friends' husbands, men from POF, basically men I come across on a daily basis. Lots of men I think are happily married, the ones I think I'm safe with, that my flirty banter will just be a laugh to them, but then they change. I can see the moment it changes in their head, there's almost a loud popping noise as they realise I could do more than just smile and chat to them. I know I am sad, that my actions are wrong, but it is addictive. I have not ended any marriage, I stop before they suggest that, but a lot of them do fall. I am expecting a torrent of abuse, I get understand that, but am looking for answers, help. Have you been this woman and how did you sort yourself out? My Dad left when I was 8, not an excuse but of course that contributed. My friends think I'm out of control, that I am addicted to attention. I know that too. Thank you

OP posts:
Minkii · 02/01/2017 22:34

Sarah, I have been the other woman and I know what betrayal can do to your mind. I will stop before this gets worse.

OP posts:
BumDNC · 02/01/2017 22:35

Yes I have given up something by just stopping. Casual horrible crap sex with men who don't mean anything to me. Also allowing flirtations to take hold when they should not.

You just have to do it. Literally. I'm not doing this anymore. I want things to change. And mean it.

I posted on here recently when I felt myself wobbling and it helped me greatly get a great big grip.

Minkii · 02/01/2017 22:36

Thanks for your honestly BumDmc.

OP posts:
SleepingTiger · 02/01/2017 22:36

How often a month do you have these relationships and/or are they simultaneous?

Minkii · 02/01/2017 22:37

BumDmc, did you get empathy or anger?

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 02/01/2017 22:37

That is what you do when you want to stop doing something

You stop doing it

It really is the only way

Or you carry on

BumDNC · 02/01/2017 22:40

I got both responses.
I thought a married colleague was flirting with me but wasn't sure and went along to something he invited me to and didn't take my boyfriend and he was indeed flirting, I felt like total shit and cut all contact. Nothing happened. But I knew it could but instead of feeling exciting now, I played out all the awful consequences in my mind and they completely put me off. I would lose my boyfriend, bloke is a real life douchebag etc etc

Minkii · 02/01/2017 22:44

It's recognising the flirting instead of friendly banter and me stopping any flirting. Changing my behaviour and not reacting. This really has helped. I can get the warm feeling from something else. Not food!

OP posts:
Bluntness100 · 02/01/2017 22:48

I don't think it's ok to attack and verbally abuse the op and I don't think this is simply about sex and that is why it's not the same as swinging, which is I think about the sex.

I think this is about attention seeking, feeling superior to other woman, about being validated as attractive or desirable, about feeling powerful, and the fact that she needs to do sleep with other woman's husbands indicates that in real life she feels the opposite, inferior to other woman, lacking attention, unattractive or undesirable, impotent, and that's where she needs help, so she doesn't need to do this to feel better about herself.

So that's why I think she shouldn't be attacked.

BumDNC · 02/01/2017 22:54

To be honest all banter is flirty to the main degree. Most men I have that 'banter' with usually tries to shag me at some point as well. Therefore you only need to have banter with a man you want to know you are flirting with him. All other men are not potential banter partners you redraw the lines and the boundaries. Male colleagues friends or peoples husbands - no go zone. You don't do it at all.
This recent man was a colleague I have known for years (and a slip up of the last flirty banter brigade) but generally speaking I have redrawn all my boundaries. I do not flirt or have banter with men other than my boyfriend. I direct it at him. He gets that side of me.
But I was single for quite some years before him, after I decided to go cold turkey on all men, and I was fine and nothing terrible happened that I didn't have those kind of things in my life. I didn't miss it.

BumDNC · 02/01/2017 22:59

I totally get it too Bluntness but OP was sucked into defending herself vs exploring, all that does is amplify the hostility from both sides.

I do understand the strange powerful desire to want to win someone and feel validated. I had a particular ex boyfriend who I could just not seem to kick. Even 15 years later I found myself wanting to be better than the woman he married. He was the 'other' married man I found myself drawn into flirting with. I saw he wasn't happy with her and this melted all my rational thinking. But I didn't actually want him and when he tried it on with me, that was kind of enough to make me see him in a very pathetic ugly light.

SleepingTiger · 02/01/2017 23:04

Are you, or have you been, a sex-worker OP?

BumDNC · 02/01/2017 23:05

If you want the reasons why I am this way then I attribute this to low self esteem due to having a crap abusive childhood with a very fucked up family dynamic, systemic abuse and not allowed to discuss anything that happened or why, parents who didn't protect me but who were also fucked up. It's not an excuse. I refuse to live my life repeating the pattern OR paying for it

moongirl123 · 02/01/2017 23:23

You may be asking for help and advise, but you come across as a me, me and me person. Have you ever thought about the women whose husbands you had your dalliances with? Or the children? You are shitty and you know it, and that should be enough reason for you to stop.

herwegoagain123 · 02/01/2017 23:58

Maybe your husband is cheating on you. I would definitely think he might be. He's probably not as stupid as you think.

fallenempires · 03/01/2017 00:06

OP you sound very damaged,you need serious help from an appropriate source/specialist.In the meantime why not read some of the posts on MN about infidelity,it cuts both ways as you are cheating on both your apparent DH and apparent DCS. Have a read,plenty on here for you to gloat over think about.
Have some self respect,don't know how old your dcs are but do you really want them to know that you're the local lay? They will do soon & then what?

CaraAspen · 03/01/2017 00:07
Hmm
twattymctwatterson · 03/01/2017 00:34

Op I have had a diluted version of this and still struggle massively with my relationships with men. It's absolutely a self esteem issue. If I were you I would take a break from men completely, including the flirting. What I'm currently trying to do is find things I like about myself which do not relate to my desirability to others. I'm working on being independent, finding hobbies I like, spending time with people who mean something to me and exercising. Hopefully when I like and value myself more then I can have a healthy relationship with someone at some point. You've been very defensive on this thread however I also don't respond very well to criticism and I recognise this is also a self esteem issue.

BahHumbuggle · 03/01/2017 00:56

Wow can't believe how many women sleeping with married men there are out there. I knew it happened, obviously, but didn't think the fact that they're married was the reason for the attraction. Grim.

You've been given lots of help and advice on here, OP. Some posters have taken a lot of time and effort to post and you don't seem very appreciative or to be taking anything on board.

MrsMcMoo · 03/01/2017 01:00

I think the fact that you're in a relationship with a man who doesn't want sex is a huge problem. I've been in a relationship for the same amount of time as you and if mine was like this, I would be very unhappy and can imagine why you might crave male attention. I don't think you're going about dealing with it in a sensible or fair way, but I can empathise with your fundamental issue. I think you said you were in the process of getting a divorce? If that's correct, then get counselling and go and look for someone who really wants you. If you're not getting a divorce I think relate would be a good idea. I don't think you're a 'horrible' person. Just unhappy and making bad choices.

Swingingsusie · 03/01/2017 07:43

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pregnantat50 · 03/01/2017 08:08

when you said your husband isnt affectionate and you have no sex life, it became apparent you are craving what your marriage lacks to reassure you its him and not you

Frankelly66 · 03/01/2017 08:52

A lot of people who cheat do it because their partner isn't meeting their needs. Not just sex, they need affection, compliments, to feel attractive etc. so I think that's the issue, but you are to the extreme as you know. I think best way to start is to speak with your partner and let him know how you feel and that you can't continue like this anymore.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 03/01/2017 10:03

Minkii, I hear you. I really think that MotherTheresasCat has something in her posts that are striking a chord. I haven't experienced the same as you have but there are some parallels and I can certainly understand the craving for 'acceptance'. I think that when we don't get this from our parents (my dad, for example), it strikes a blow from which it takes a while to get up; and we might be winded for a long, long time. That sounds a bit trite but it's the best way I can describe what I mean.

Our parent's love is supposed to be unconditional and to not have that love unconditional - or worse still, at all - is a terrible betrayal to a child.

There's a thread on this board, I can't remember which one, but it refers to the pain of the 'inner child' and how important it is that this child is listened to and acknowledged. I'm fairly stable and happy in my life but this is something that is a bit like a horcrux for me (using Harry Potter analogy), I'm not quite whole and ought to be. So I'm going to look into this for myself, some counselling just to 'dot the i's and cross the t's'.

I think it's unfortunate that you didn't get on with your counsellor, Minkii but there are others out there and perhaps you could arrange to visit a few to see if there is one that you click with and whose language and tone resonates with you?

I absolutely understand your flat tone here; it's akin to the disembodied, self-preservation language associated with female prostitution. When you think about the debased image that has, along with the blotting-out with drugs, it's really understandable. None of this is making you happy, Minkii, you just think it is. That's very sad - and false - and I really hope that you will reconsider counselling again. As Kondo said upthread, this forum is great but it's not equipped to do the heavy lifting that good counselling can.

On here, you will have posters here projecting their own experiences of having been in the same position as the wives of some of your men... and you won't get a deeper understanding or acceptance for that reason so acknowledge the limitations of this board and take the points that make you want to look into them in more depth perhaps?

You can take some time off from the frenetic validation-chasing too, you know. Just a bit of quiet time to reflect and put in place some plans that will ultimately bring this painful circle of repetition to an end. You can't do this on your own, you need some help to do that so apply a bit of energy in that direction. Thanks

BahHumbuggle · 03/01/2017 11:44

Some of these posts remind me of one of my favourite quotes:

'If you don't receive love from the ones who are meant to love you, you will never stop looking for it.'

This doesn't mean you can hurt people in the process though and use your dad leaving as an excuse.

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