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2017 - following on from my bolt out the blue

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aleC4 · 01/01/2017 21:19

So here is my new thread as promised. I have found it so therapeutic writing on here and have received some great advice and support.
Here's to grabbing 2017 by the horns and making it my year.
(With maybe a few wobbles along the way!)
I can't work out how to link to my old thread on my phone!

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aleC4 · 25/08/2018 15:47

Ex has been up to his usual tricks re money again.
Dd saw a pair of boots she likes in Primark and asked him if he would buy them for her so she had some footwear to keep at his house. His response - no, you have to ask your mum for clothes and shoes, that's what I pay her for! ShockShockShock
Does he honestly think the paltry amount he pays is enough for clothes and shoes?
Who said that if you pay maintenance your responsibility to provide for your children ends? What if I gave him the same amount and asked him to provide all their clothes, pay for their food, clubs, presents for friends, school trips etc. I am absolutely livid.
He is a pathetic excuse for a father.

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Startoftheyear2018 · 25/08/2018 16:11

What an idiot! It's so hard as your poor DC just wants a pair of shoes to have at his house. He should be ashamed.

TheLastNigel · 25/08/2018 17:40

Tbh if he's going to keep saying that I would be honest and factual back to the kids really if they ask re his contribution.
Because now on top of making you the bad person who has to sometimes say no when you can't afford stuff he's also implying that it's in some way down to you having frittered away his maintenance and not more accurately stating, that he can't buy stuff because he's a twat who can't provide for his kids

aleC4 · 25/08/2018 18:25

Tbh the kids know that he doesn't give much. They know it is just about enough for food and a bit extra.
I think I actually told ds how much he gives me so he understands how much I have to pay.
They are pretty good kids to be honest and don't really ask for that much. But ds is a tall, big-built 13 year old with size10 feet! I have to buy men's clothes for him now and they cost a bomb.
If I used every penny of my maintenance for clothes for them, it would take 7 weeks to pay his half of what I have paid on 'essentials' this summer.

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Zofloraqueen27 · 25/08/2018 23:57

Hello Alec. I have been following your thread since day one and have posted here before.

I am always very interested to read how you are doing. I think you have done and are continuing to do a wonderful job of holding everything together so well and for being such a lovely caring mum.

It goes without saying but your STBXH is a complete and utter fool and waste of space.

His comments to your lovely Dd are nothing short of disgraceful. He ought to feel ashamed of himself.

I know you want to keep communication with him to the absolute minimum but I would have to send him an email “balance sheet” showing how much he actually gives you and where it goes. Include ALL expenses I.e. food, clothing, uniforms, school trips, Club subs, entertainment, mortgage, utilities (he wants his children well fed, clean and warm surely.). I would then total your childrens’ costs up and divide it into 30 day’s in the month and show him exactly how much it costs and how much PER DAY he is contributing towards his childrens’ expenses.

I can only begin to understand how difficult the past two years have been for you but you have done so very well, just read back to your earlier posts and you will see how far you have come.

On your point of reigning in your spending. I had to take a serious view of our finances after a dreadful situation we faced some eight years ago. I looked at the amount of stuff we frivolously bought and thought of the long hard hours I had not only gone out to work, but getting up at 5.30am to start my day to earn the money to buy it, but also of the long hard hours I worked looking after the home . It really made me think. I no longer buy on impulse and make do (and mend). Try it - you will be greatly surprised at how much you can really save by adopting the “do I NEED this thing or do I just want it”.

Encourage your children to start thinking like this too and have an aim in mind - say a little holiday next year, and you will all see the improvement in your finances. Keep going Alec you’re doing a great job. If you were my daughter I would be so proud of you.

TheLastNigel · 26/08/2018 06:02

What a lovely post Zoflora!

namechangedbcos · 26/08/2018 10:39

Alec you are an incredible person. You are well rid of that waste of space.

I wonder what will happen if you show this and the other thread to your ex. I doubt he has the intelligence to read everything but even a little of the posts here can be a slap in his face....

aleC4 · 27/08/2018 08:51

Thanks for the l

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aleC4 · 27/08/2018 08:53

Whoops, don't know what happened there!
Thanks for the lovely comments everyone, sometimes e regime needs to be told they are doing well.
Zoflora I'm sure he knows very well what the children cost but seems to hide behind this maintenance thing as though he's some kind of saint to pay what he does. He seems to have an idea from somewhere that I am rolling in it - ha, if only! If I was the first thing I would do would be divorce the idiot!

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aleC4 · 27/08/2018 08:54

Namechanged if it didn't ruin my chances of posting again I would be very tempted to make him read this!

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mummysharkdododododo · 28/08/2018 18:55

Hi aleC,

I have spent hours reading both of your threads and I think you are amazing how you are keeping everything together for your DC.

Your EX is a spineless twat who will always put the kids last.

Just keep doing what you are doing, you are doing a fab job.

Keep us posted Thanks

aleC4 · 30/08/2018 22:24

Thanks mummyshark.
So, interesting news.
This morning I got a text from ex to say over the next few days he will be completing divorce paperwork!
Apparently I will get a copy but he's not sure what I need to fill in. I will need to provide the marriage certificate.
Interestingly no request for any money......
I would bet every penny I have he wants to get married. I think I hold all the cards here. If he wants it perhaps he has realised he is going to have to pay? Otherwise I can just say sorry I can't afford it and then it can.'the happen. Maybe I should say I spent all my money on uniform if he asks! 😂
I did say however that I want a clean break agreement adding to it so there is no financial link or liability between us now or in the future. He agreed that was a good idea. If he asked me to pay towards that I would probably agree as I have more to protect than he does - my pension for one!
So watch this space! I may be rid of him totally soon, and perhaps for free.....
Who would like to take bets on how long before there's a wedding announcement.....

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kaitlinktm · 31/08/2018 10:21

YY to protecting your pension - after all, he had the choice to have a similar pension and chose to give up the job, meaning less money for his children.

Is it a Form E you both have to complete - like a financial statement? We didn't complete one in the end because I knew XH wouldn't be bothered as he refused to even have a solicitor (just rang up mine and asked questions pushing up my costs). But I compiled a letter stating it would be a clean break with no further claims from either of us on anything - I think I gave specific details - which he agreed to sign. I suppose it wasn't "legal" but my solicitor said it was a "powerful document". As I have now been claiming my teacher's pension for a few years I presume he won't come back and change his mind. (He remarried within 6 weeks of our decree absolute and has lived abroad ever since.)

However, a friend of mine (also a teacher) whose husband really did behave abominably (worse than mine) but who had no children had to give him a good chunk of her pension - not sure how much - even though he had assured her he wouldn't chase her pension. He too remarried quickly - someone with a young teenager - and told her he had to think of his step-daughter! Shock

I suppose what I am trying to say in my usual rambling way is what you already know - even in this, don't trust him.

MsPavlichenko · 31/08/2018 10:36

Sounds promising. Might also be worth preparing for possibility of pregnancy ? Given their selfish approach throughout it wouldn't surprise me.

kaitlinktm · 31/08/2018 13:36

MrsPav - oh no, let's hope not (but it wouldn't surprise me either tbh).

tiredandweary · 31/08/2018 14:19

AleC4
Have been following your threads from the outset and commented occasionally (name changed since).
How great it is to see how you have gathered yourself together and centred your children consistently. Your ex has lost so much more than he realises but so well done on being 'kind' and enabling your children to maintain a positive relationship with him. Wishing you all the best for the new academic year and may you continue to thrive Flowers

aleC4 · 31/08/2018 15:16

I'm not sure what any if the paperwork is, I haven't received it yet. However when I do, I will be going over it with a fine tooth comb to make sure that agreement is there. There ya no way he is getting his hands on my pension!
Do you know what, a baby would not even surprise. Although she is on the older side to have another I wouldn't be shocked, just really sad for the poor little thing.
I think that might be the final straw for my kids though!

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LannieDuck · 01/09/2018 13:01

Hi aleC4 :)

I've just spent two days reading both your threads. I'm quite disappointed I'm up-to-date - what a rollercoaster it's been! I can't get over how much ex has changed from the start to the end. You've been so strong all the way through, and I don't think I could have maintained such a dignified silence as you have.

I've added you to my watch list so I can follow along in future. Hope DD enjoys secondary school!

aleC4 · 01/09/2018 19:21

Thanks so much Lannie.
No announcements this weekend to dc so still waiting! 😂
I am back at work on Monday but the dc have another week - dd starts Friday because she is Y7 and ds a week on Monday. I'm so glad we're having such a lovely weekend, it's baking the end if he holidays more bearable.
We ate tea out in the garden tonight and the sun was really warm.
Tomorrow I need to get a bit more work done for inset on Monday,
Ds is out tonight watching a play with his grandparents so dd and I are preparing for X factor.
I may have already had quite a bit of wine......

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MsPavlichenko · 01/09/2018 20:00

Sounds lovely ! Up here is damp and dark! Hope all goes well on Monday. KOKO!

Mary1935 · 01/09/2018 21:12

Hi Alex if he’s sent the divorce petition it depends which divorce court it goes too and if there is a backlog at that particular court. Then there will be a form in that you can write any comments in - whether you disagree with what he’s put. Then you sign it and send it back. It may be a while before you get them. Is he paying the correct maintainace?
Is he doing 2 years separation. Yes as others have said - protect your pension. He may change his mind.

aleC4 · 01/09/2018 21:25

Thanks Mrs Pav 😃
Yes I guess it is two years separation.
I'm not sure he is doing it through a solicitor though. I have a feeling it will be one if the online companies who do it quick and cheap.
At the end of the day if there is anything I don't understand I will get legal advice

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aleC4 · 01/09/2018 21:28

Wrt maintenance, I think he is paying the right amount but I have to trust him because I have no idea what he earns.
He pays, fair enough, but he seems to think because he pays maintenance his o ligation to buy the kids anything is over.
He won't buy them anything to keep there so they have to pack a bag every time they go with the clothes they need.

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aleC4 · 02/09/2018 22:37

Back to work tomorrow!
I need to get up at 6 but I don't feel tired yet! Aagghh!
I have been trying to send myself to sleep reading all the important documents for tomorrow's inset but it hasn't worked.
It's going to be tough leaving the kids in bed.

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flowerpot1000000 · 03/09/2018 12:48

Hope you got up ok OP ... my last day of the hols today. Should ex go on to have another child you need to address wills with him. My DH has 2 children from first marriage and in his will everything goes to to DS as when he split he signed over everything including the house (worth £300k mortgage was £25k at the time) and said he wouldnt take anything as he wanted his children to have it all so was their inheritance.

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