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Long marriage with controlling DH - he says I have just sponged off him

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HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 11:37

DH has always been really difficult and prone to get nasty if he can't get his own way.

Over the years he has let me make some decisions (for instance I make all the decisions about the children) but he will pull rank over some things, like finances. He also controls where I go and hates me having friends.

We married very young, soon after I had left school. I had been ill through secondary school so left with no qualifications, and he had a good trade, so I raised the children, ran the home and worked part time, fitting it around the family.

Meanwhile, he worked hard, and concentrated on his career which gave us a good standard of living, and eventually had several good promotions. He never contributed to the home other than financially - no bed time stories, or trips to the park, or washing up or cooking, as that was all left to me. He worked from home and would make life really hard by messing up the house while I was at work because i think he was resentful that I wasn't at home, so he made life retry miserable.

When our youngest was born, he insisted I got a part time evening job and he would look after the baby, but the it was awful - he would make me late every day, mess up the house while I was out, and the baby wasn't looked after properly, e.g. not fed or nappy changed or put to bed. Often I would get home and youngest would be roaming the house alone while DH had taken himself to bed.

I stuck it out for eighteen months but handed in my notice in the end. Since then (ten years ago) I have been a SAHM.

I have done a bit of volunteering but DH has been really unsupportive - in the last role, he decided (for no apparent reason) that I was cheating on him with another volunteer and kept threatening to confront this person until I gave it up.

About a year ago, he told me that I had been sponging off him for years, and he was sick of it. I have been trying to find a job since then, but he has put barriers up every time I have an interview, and ridiculed me if they are not what he thinks of as a good job. So I haven't found anything yet.

I feel such a failure - I thought I was doing the best thing by looking after my family but now it turns out that I am just some sort of fool who is now unqualified for anything and has very little work experience, and a DH who resents me every day because of it.

After he ranted at me all day yesterday about my lack of income while we put up the decorations, he told me today that he plans to open a separate account so I can't touch his money. He just doesn't understand that I can't just find a job that he thinks is suitable. I feel so low and worthless today, and so tearful .

Sorry it's so long. I know I should leave him, and I would, but I think I need a job before I can.

OP posts:
Goingtobeawesome · 05/12/2016 13:30

I really hope you get out.

I've never forgotten a poster from years ago who's husband wanted her constantly pregnant to keep her trapped. She posted. She got help. She got out. She's doing well last I heard.

JuddNelsoninTheBreakfastClub · 05/12/2016 13:39

Also, as others have said, it must be very hard in your situation to know this isn't "normal" behaviour, not being able to do what you want. I'm a similar age to you (45) married although my children are much younger than yours, work part time. I can go out and meet friends, go to the shops, exercise classes, go for lunch etc, I don't need my DH's "permission". As long as childcare is sorted, also DH can go out and do his things too. Just wanted to say you should be able to do what you want, when you want, not have someone controlling your every move, telling you that you can't do anything.

HoarseAndSad · 05/12/2016 13:53

Thank you all - i feel so much stronger knowing that you are all out there, willing me on.

I am so sorry if I have stirred up any bad memories, and big hugs to all of you who have suffered too.

I haven't been able to thank each of you, as I am having to be sneaky(!) but I have read every post and taken in every word, and all of you have fantastic, sensible things to say to me, so my thanks are truly heartfelt xxx.

My tentative first plan is to wait till he is out and phone womens aid and try to find a solicitor.

I have put away a secret stash of a hundred and twenty pounds (thanks for all the ideas!) - do you think that will be enough to pay a solicitor for an initial consultation?

OP posts:
nicenewdusters · 05/12/2016 13:57

OP. The dictionary definition of abuse is:

use wrongly; ill-treat violently; speak harshly and rudely; prolonged ill-treatment; harsh and vulgar comments.

The definition of care is:

be concerned; like (to do something); like, be fond of; look after; careful attention, caution; protection charge.

He doesn't do what he does to you because he cares Flowers

KickAssAngel · 05/12/2016 14:00

I once put diesel in my car (it's pretty close to impossible, the nozzles are a different size so shouldn't fit, but somehow I managed) because I was really ill and not thinking straight. Then I drove a few miles, broke down, had to get someone to get DD from school and bring her to me (she was 8) then call a tow truck which took us to a garage, then get another friend to get me & DD home.

It cost us hundreds and was super stressful.

DH asked if I was OK, and when my illness got diagnosed just said "oh that explains it, you don't usually make mistakes like that."

My DH is not perfect; he is pretty normal. That's a normal response to someone making a mistake.

MrsBertBibby · 05/12/2016 14:05

Solicitor costs for a proper advice session vary wildy, by region, and between firms. Some firms still do a free session but those are usually pretty short and won't help you much. The highest I've charged for first appointments was £220 or an hour, and a note of what was discussed and advised. That was unusually high, though.

nicenewdusters · 05/12/2016 14:05

OP that sounds like a great first step. You often get the first half hour free with a solicitor you're seeing for the first time, they'll be able to tell you when you phone them.

Don't apologise for stirring up memories. People will only post if they feel able to. I find using my experience is a positive thing.

And just to say like a pp, my ex didn't collapse when I left either. He begged me to come back, he was pathetic. He moved away and I've never seen or heard from him again. Sad, sad little man.

Goingtobeawesome · 05/12/2016 14:07

Make sure you delete your history. Change passwords often too.

user1470997562 · 05/12/2016 14:32

Well done op, you have the first steps in your plan.

I think the memories it stirs up for me are happy ones - the day I escaped. So don't worry about that on my account.

SixtiesChildOfWildBlueSkies · 05/12/2016 14:32

Op - someone once said to me that we always remember that one negative, rather than those hundred positives.
So far, everything you have told us is all the negative things he's said to you.
EG -
"He says I am stupid and useless, and I can't do things on my own" :
"He says I was a shitty mother to want to 'abandon' our young teenager like that"
"The next day, he said it was my decision not to go for the job and that he hadn't tried to stop me"

Usually, they say these things as they're EXACTLY the OPPOSITE of what you really are.

You're NOT stupid and useless - You're intelligent and capable.
You CAN do things on your own - you've made the decision to speak to mumsnet without his permission.
You're NOT a shitty mother - you're fabulous and awesome.
He DID try to stop you - 'cos he's a controlling twatty bastard arse!

So, c'mon Op - tell us the positive and amazing things about YOU, because I just know there's so much in there! Smile

Lambzig · 05/12/2016 14:40

Every time I read your posts, I think this is one of the worst long-term cases of abuse I have heard and then you post more. You seem to be denied basic human rights, just a prisoner. No wonder he isn't violent any more, you aren't ever stepping out of line and doubt yourself so much.

Why would you put diesel in, of course you wouldn't, but I can see that the dread of his behaviour is so awful to contemplate.

Please get some professional help, legal and counselling and emotional support to get you out of this.

SixtiesChildOfWildBlueSkies · 05/12/2016 14:41

Re the putting petrol in the car - I once whizzed onto the petrol station forecourt to fill up my new car. My now DP - who was just a friend at the time - was with me. I strolled to the petrol lock, put in the key, but it wouldn't turn. I tried all sorts, but the bloody thing wouldn't budge. Meanwhile a queue was lining up behind me.

In the end I nonchalantly got back in the car , and drove off with no petrol. We got around the corner and I had to pull over and stop, as we were both laughing so much.
Eventually we drove to a shop, bought some DW40, and sorted the lock then went to fill up at another station

These things happen, but that's all they are, just normal life's 'things'.

Memoires · 05/12/2016 16:32

Oh my dear, not being allowed to just jump in the car and go to your dd? That's truly awful - well, pretty well everything you've said is awful FlowersSad

Your plan sounds good. Have you talked to anyone at WA? If you can't get through, you can email them. Stay strong.

rememberthetime · 05/12/2016 16:58

Do you realise this is now illegal? Coercive control is exactly what you are describing and is now a crime.
You could walk into a police station and report him - today.
I get why you might fear doing it - but you could at least talk to a police officer and see what your options are.
But you say you have been a parent for 30 years. That means you have very grown up and settled children. PLease please ask for their help. They know what he is like. They have seen and heard much more than you know. They want to help you. Let them.

Shayelle · 05/12/2016 17:03

Jesus effing christ he is a psychopath of the highest order isnt he? You sound so lovely Flowers

KarenW · 05/12/2016 18:10

so angry that your husband has so little respect for you that he treats you so despicably! I hope that you get yourself out of this situation as soon as you can, and get legal advise, he is a criminal!

Shakey15000 · 05/12/2016 18:17

I am so glad you are taking everything on board. PLEASE take the advice of copying financial paperwork where possible, deleting browsing history, keeping passwords safe etc. I would also be careful about opening a bank account in case anything lands through the letterbox. The last thing you need is him getting a whiff of your plans. And you SO deserve to leave with everything in place. Is there any paperwork pertaining to the "windfall"?

I would hope very much that you are able to put everything in place before leaving and I am sure you are well practiced at keeping everything looking "normal" and doing nothing to press his buttons. It goes without saying that if anything happens, ring the police.

You have my very best wishes Flowers

Shakey15000 · 05/12/2016 18:23

Oh and I meant to say, I agree with the poster that said (along the lines of) that he is weak and pathetic. He has nothing and controls you to convince himself of some "worth".

Footle · 05/12/2016 18:54

I can't bear to read the whole thread , it's too horrible. You are living with insanity. Please please get away.

Cary2012 · 05/12/2016 19:07

OP lovely, if you live in Norfolk please pm me re solicitor x

whitehandledkitchenknife · 05/12/2016 19:10

H&S - if/when you have a wobble, just imagine the massed ranks of all the MNers who have posted (and the lurkers) standing just behind you. If you feel vulnerable, imagine us standing in circle around you, holding you up and protecting you.
Keep squirrelling that cash. Keep planning.

ChanandlerBongsNeighbour · 05/12/2016 19:13

I'm with you. You can do it!

SandyY2K · 05/12/2016 19:19

HorseAS,

It makes very sad reading to hear how controlled you are by your husband. I hope you find the strength to do what you need to.

What sort of childhood did your husband have?
Are his parents together? Did you or do you know them?

What he's doing is wrong, but something must have made him like this. His need to treat you like a child, not driving more than 8 miles! He wants you to be so dependant on him, for fear that you'll not leave him.

Was he abandoned by any of his parents? Does he have siblings?

I'm not trying to excuse his behaviour, because it's totally unacceptable, but it must stem from somewhere.

He needs therapy to figure out why he does this. I suggest when you leave him, he might actually realise he's lost a wonderful woman and get some help.

Please be careful and cover your tracks.

LilCamper · 05/12/2016 19:38

Un lurking. My husband and I celebrated 21 years together today. I spilled half of tea over the kitchen tonight. He mopped it up while telling me my kitchen disasters are few and far between. He laughed. I laughed.

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