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Long marriage with controlling DH - he says I have just sponged off him

407 replies

HoarseAndSad · 04/12/2016 11:37

DH has always been really difficult and prone to get nasty if he can't get his own way.

Over the years he has let me make some decisions (for instance I make all the decisions about the children) but he will pull rank over some things, like finances. He also controls where I go and hates me having friends.

We married very young, soon after I had left school. I had been ill through secondary school so left with no qualifications, and he had a good trade, so I raised the children, ran the home and worked part time, fitting it around the family.

Meanwhile, he worked hard, and concentrated on his career which gave us a good standard of living, and eventually had several good promotions. He never contributed to the home other than financially - no bed time stories, or trips to the park, or washing up or cooking, as that was all left to me. He worked from home and would make life really hard by messing up the house while I was at work because i think he was resentful that I wasn't at home, so he made life retry miserable.

When our youngest was born, he insisted I got a part time evening job and he would look after the baby, but the it was awful - he would make me late every day, mess up the house while I was out, and the baby wasn't looked after properly, e.g. not fed or nappy changed or put to bed. Often I would get home and youngest would be roaming the house alone while DH had taken himself to bed.

I stuck it out for eighteen months but handed in my notice in the end. Since then (ten years ago) I have been a SAHM.

I have done a bit of volunteering but DH has been really unsupportive - in the last role, he decided (for no apparent reason) that I was cheating on him with another volunteer and kept threatening to confront this person until I gave it up.

About a year ago, he told me that I had been sponging off him for years, and he was sick of it. I have been trying to find a job since then, but he has put barriers up every time I have an interview, and ridiculed me if they are not what he thinks of as a good job. So I haven't found anything yet.

I feel such a failure - I thought I was doing the best thing by looking after my family but now it turns out that I am just some sort of fool who is now unqualified for anything and has very little work experience, and a DH who resents me every day because of it.

After he ranted at me all day yesterday about my lack of income while we put up the decorations, he told me today that he plans to open a separate account so I can't touch his money. He just doesn't understand that I can't just find a job that he thinks is suitable. I feel so low and worthless today, and so tearful .

Sorry it's so long. I know I should leave him, and I would, but I think I need a job before I can.

OP posts:
balence49 · 05/12/2016 19:50

You are a similar age to my mum, and my friends mums. Please tell your children, they will want to help you, I don't know anyone that wouldn't take their mum and brother in in this situation.
You have many good happy years to live! Get away from him and make your own life, how you want it with only yourself to answer to.

MotherFuckingChainsaw · 05/12/2016 20:19

This is heartbreaking

I've been think I of you on and off all day. Been doing a long drive. I bloody love driving, miles and miles of lovely motorway, all to new places or old friends. It made me so angry thinking he's denying you such a simple pleasure.

Look at it this way. Your driving licence doesn't say on the back '8 miles only' does it? The dvla and your driving examiner thought you were fine to drive. He is just restricting you because he's a controlling arse hole. Not because he cares. If I was worried about my DH driving abilities I'd say' book some lessons' ' get a retest' or maybe see the doctor or the optician '
Not ' yeah, only drive 8 miles'

I'm saying this so hopefully you can see a little more clearly that all this stuff dressed up as concerns is just toxic tosh.

MotherFuckingChainsaw · 05/12/2016 20:26

Posted too soon.....I know the driving is really almost the least of your worries compared to the violence and control, but it seems to me to just represent how lovely you are and how awful he is for doing this.

Maria1982 · 05/12/2016 20:41

The more you post and the more I read, the sadder and more horrified I am.

However, that may not be very helpful to read. So if I can just say... You are not a wet lump. You are not useless. You have been gradually worn down and hemmed in so that, as you say, if you live by a certain set of rules, things are 'okay'. Only they're not. The situation is only 'bearable' in that you are not getting hit. But he has shrunk your world and is controlling your life. To the point where as you say, it's hard to know what is normal anymore.

Keep reading, keep posting if you can. We are here for support and advice. It will take you a while to process all this in your mind (that it isn't normal, that he is a bully, that's it's not alright). Let it sink in while you make your plans.

One last thing for now: I'm so, so sorry that years ago when you turned up at your mother's doorstep covered in bruises she turned you away. No one deserves that (whatever the reasons).

smartiecake · 05/12/2016 20:50

Your story is so sad. He beat you all those years ago and now he is emotionally beating you down. Everything you have said screams huge huge alarm bells. Everything about your marriage sounds so awful and he has downtrodden you to the point where you doubt yourself so he has the ultimate control. You are not allowed to go to bed when you want and not allowed to go out and see your adult children and friends when and where you want. I have never ever heard anything like this. Please
Please know this is such a toxic way to live and well done on taking those first steps to escape. I am 44, been with my DH 21 years. Our relationship isn't perfect, we have our niggles like everyone but we also laugh together and have total respect for one another. I can go out when and where I want and he would never take my keys off me or come and take me from the cinema.
The way you are living is wrong on every level. This must be so much for you to take in but nothing about the way you have to live is within 'normal' relationships. Your story almost reminds me of a hostage situation. Please take steps to leave ASAP and please come here for support and most important cover your tracks and make sure your psycho husband does not get any idea until you are safely away.

Atenco · 05/12/2016 20:59

I think a lot of this type of treatment is because they think the only way they can keep you is by convincing you that are everything you are not.

So I totally agree with SixtiesChildOfWildBlueSkies

HoarseAndSad · 05/12/2016 21:25

Just a quick message to say I am still here, still listening and I will read through all your messages when I can.

Thank you, everyone who has posted xx

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BitOutOfPractice · 05/12/2016 21:49

OP have you read that link to the Telegraph article. Your particular arsehole is a textbook case. He ticks every box with bells on

averylongtimeago · 05/12/2016 21:58

Well done on starting your escape fund, think of it as a step on the road to freedom.
Keep safe, change passwords and delete your phone and computer history. Is he technology minded? Could he have put a tracker on your phone?

Oh, and you are not stupid, or useless, or a wet lump. You sound brave and strong to bring up your children despite this pathetic excuse for a man dragging you down.

OldHag1 · 05/12/2016 22:02

I'm going through something similar - newly seperated..... my advice would be to go to the CAB. Save cash in a box and hide it away somewhere. I was and still feel abused emotionally and financially. He was starting to get physical too. It's scary but I am out and starting a new life with my little ones.

I wish you well and lots of strength x

balence49 · 05/12/2016 22:11

I don't know if it's already been said but... if you are "allowed" to go shopping in a supermarket is he going to notice if you get cash back? It doesn't show on the statement just looks like you spent more than you did. Make sure you loose the receipt tho.

lorelairoryemily · 05/12/2016 22:21

Oh op poor poor you, I have witnessed this kind of behaviour, ( not me personally thankfully) she never plucked up the courage to leave, and won't, there was physical abuse, emotional and financial, I really feel for you, I hope you can find suitable employment and get yourself and your teen out of there. You are worth so much more, you deserve so much more, and you will get there, thinking of you and hoping you find peace away from that horrible excuse for a man. I really do feel your painFlowers

AskBasil · 05/12/2016 22:34

"It is beginning to dawn on me today that the youngest and I don't have to live like this."

That's the beginning of freedom.

Darling, not only do you not have to live like this, you will live well. Not only can you divorce this sorry-arsed bastard, you can have him in the dock for coercive control.

Please phone Women's Aid, they will be able to help you. 0808 2000 247

If you can afford it, see about getting a counsellor. But get yourself to a solicitor as soon as possible. You need to get out of there.

And a word of warning: please do not underestimate how dangerous your husband is. He doesn't hit you anymore, because he's trained you to do as he wants without having to hit you. When he realises he's lost control of you, he may well erupt in violence if he can. That means that when you tell him you're divorcing him, please make sure you have a friend with you or you are in a public place and you are ready to leave immediately. The most dangerous time for a woman in an abusive relationship, is when she is preparing to leave it. Do not give your abuser time or space to take revenge on you for taking away his control.

Fingers crossed for you, get down to that solicitor's office and start arranging for your freedom.

CauliflowerSqueeze · 05/12/2016 23:27

just imagine the massed ranks of all the MNers who have posted (and the lurkers) standing just behind you.

Yeah. Or just in front of you with a sharp-edged shovel, swinging it violently. I'd love him to come into a nice big sticky MN web. We would finish him off.

You're not trapped OP. He just wants you to think you are.

Get your ducks in a row at the solicitors first. That windfall should be yours.

hollygoflightly · 05/12/2016 23:45

Hi OP. I am unlurking for the first time ever here, just to say that in 6 years of hanging around mumsnet I've never heard anything as scary as your story. As others have said, you come across as articulate, smart and considered in your posts. I'm sure your kids love you and would love to help you if they can. I wish you the all the strength you need over the next few weeks and months Flowers

TheSilveryPussycat · 06/12/2016 01:01

I found that I've been holding my breath while reading. Take things very slow and be careful. The source of the windfall may make a difference to your options, so make sure you mention it to the solicitor.

mamakena · 06/12/2016 04:40

I feel teary at this situation. I don't know the rules on here but if moderator allowed I'd be thrilled to give to a fund to help OP. I don't even mind taking the risk of online scam, it's worth it.

I just got out of a marriage just like this but it was only 1.5 years (yet had me so emotionally beat down), and luckily I had enough cash and was able to move far far away.

Wallywobbles · 06/12/2016 05:20

Email Women's Aid so you don't waste precious time waiting for them to answer the phone. Ask for a list of solicitors that specialize in abuse. Write a synopsis of what's happened. Past physical abuse, current control. A list of the rules.

Copy all documents. Mortgages, house valuations, pensions, bank statements, savings, portfolios etc.

There is an app for most phones that scans. I use an iPhone and an app called scannable that saves directly to an app call Evernote that you can access from any computer etc online. Open a free evernote account.

Send a copy of synopsis and summary of financial docs to recommended lawyers. Ask for first appointment. You need to see more than one if possible. Every lawyer you see is one he won't be able to use.

Get your passport and DCs.

Every time you have 10 mins without him add a bit more.

Cash back of £25 with every shop. Keep adding to fund. You want as many 1000s as you can.

CauliflowerSqueeze · 06/12/2016 05:30

Please also ensure your phone has a new password and if it's a smartphone then set it so it demands the password straightaway.

HoarseAndSad · 06/12/2016 12:13

Good morning, and thank you to everyone for some amazing ideas. I would never have thought of most of them so I am truly touched.

Deep breath... I have spoken to my oldest son, and he is being amazing , so you were all right! I was dog walking first thing, and dithering and dithering about ringing around solicitors, and DS1 rang in the middle of my panic, and poor bloke, took the full force of my worries. He had to duck back into his office so no one else could hear his crazy mother wailing on the phone.

He is so sensible. He says the children all think I should separate from DH as he is so hard to live with, and that I only come to life when he isn't around. I can't believe they have all noticed and had a conversation about it - I wanted to protect them Sad

I feel horrible that the children recognise what is happening, but I was so relieved to talk about it to him. He never once said anything in his dads defence, just that I was right to leave him. I kept thinking of you all encouraging me on and I went for it.

DS1 probably was the best one to start with because he is really sensible and clued up , and a whizz with money (he works in finance). He thinks I should stay put in the house though, and DH should leave, but I can't imagine that happening as DH is very territorial and wouldn't want to hand it over. He says he would burn it down if I tried to take half, but DS said that he thinks it's all bluster.

DS1 reckons we should put it to him that I take the house and DH keeps the pension, then I can sell the house later on and use it as my pension (I think that's what he meant...)

He says I should keep looking for a job, in the meantime, and he is going to talk to the others about what is going on, so I don't have to worry about doing that. And that youngest DS and I can stay with him any time, bless him.

I don't know what I will decide to do, but I certainly feel less shaky now he knows, but still very scared that DH will find out, but braver now I know that my babies are cheering me on!

OP posts:
Wombatron · 06/12/2016 12:31

Your babies will have a better idea than any of us what's better for you in the long run money wise. Follow what DS1 and solicitor say. Take DS1 with you to a solicitor, he may have an idea of questions to ask you may not think of. DS1 sounds wonderful. If I didn't have MrW I'd be getting in line there.

I'm in Australia and about to go to bed, but I just can't help but feel so happy at imagining you finding the hope and strength you've clearly found this morning, your last few sentences of your last post just made me grin in real life.
Good luck OP, we're all rooting for you. X

Veterinari · 06/12/2016 12:49

That's great news! Well done OP for speaking out! I'm not surprised at all that your DC have noticed - and it's great that they're so supportive.

You can do this!

Wallywobbles · 06/12/2016 12:51

Well that's a much more positive situation.

Atenco · 06/12/2016 12:53

Brilliant news, OP.

And by the by, you must be very proud of yourself having raised such a lovely young man.

Goingtobeawesome · 06/12/2016 12:55

See! How can you be all those vile things your husband tries to claim you are when you've raised such an amazing child?!

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