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Online dating...... where have all the good men gone? Thread 110.

999 replies

Evilwater · 12/11/2016 21:18

I know these threads have come in handy for many dipping their toes for the first time into OLD. So here we are again ... another 1000 posts down:

  1. The first rule about the dating thread is you don't talk about it with people you're dating.
  2. Develop a thick skin.
  3. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  4. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  5. Trust your gut instinct.
  6. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  7. You are the prize-they should be trying to impress you.
  8. If it's not fun, stop.
  9. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Read Why Men Love Bitches (aka WMLB), and take from it what you will. 12. Don't serve up moose burgers on the first date (although this is still in debate right now) 13. Matthew Hussey also very useful. And very easy on the eye even if you don't find him any good. 14. IF THEY SAY THEY DON'T WANT A RELATIONSHIP, THEY DON'T WANT A RELATIONSHIP
OP posts:
Lilacpink40 · 16/11/2016 07:59

Congrats Mrs Fluff, showing us that OLD can work too!

Pringle aka bumble expert in my eyes what am I doing wrong with bumble: I swiped right lots last night but no potentials suggested this morning?

Myusernameismyusername · 16/11/2016 08:46

Aww Mrs Fluff that's lovely. Really happy. I'm staying too.

loobyloo1234 · 16/11/2016 09:04

Lilac - as in you haven't had any matches on Bumble yet? It does seem to take a while for people to swipe for me aswell if that helps? I don't think it's the kind of app people stay glued to. Patience is going to have to be a virtue on this I think?

So a man, who I thought seemed nice on Bumble, asked me whether I went to the gym, I said yes, then said 'what other activities do you like to do that make you sweat'- FFS! I find this so cringey. Is it just me? So off-putting Confused

Lilacpink40 · 16/11/2016 09:34

Thanks looby I'll look tonight.

Can you think of disgusting physical things, for reply e.g. churning out animal poo, he'll get message?

loobyloo1234 · 16/11/2016 10:03

Grin I wish I had done Lilac honestly

Thing is, I'm not straight out looking for my future husband, and probably would be happy to DTD pretty quickly with someone, but when they outright insinuate it, it's pretty gross Shock

SuperFlyHigh · 16/11/2016 10:33

quick update - having nice chats with Cutie - he lives near where I work, got music interests sorted. what do people feel about dating someone 7 years their junior as he is that. he doesn't have a problem with it.

Widower is still there with chats... nice but I really need to meet him!

oh and someone I used to work with saw me on Tinder swiped right (huh??!!) then messaged me to say he was interested... we got off together (kissed) years ago at a works party but he is also younger maybe same age as Cutie and 3 months out of a relationship with mother of his 2 kids but they're about 8 and 10 I think... He really liked me when we worked together. so I messaged him back and said if he wanted a date to ask for one, then he said that's not very 21st century is it and do people still do that??!!

Crazycat1980 · 16/11/2016 12:46

Lovely to hear some good news.

I've had four dates with Mr Tinder, one of which lasted eight hours....

But I'm not feeling it and he seems super keen and intense. I think he thinks we are a couple even though we've had no conversations to support this. He's like a little puppy dog.

Not feeling things are right with him is making me miss my ex of two months so so much. It hurts. I feel like I NEED him back. I can't cope with it...

lastnicknamefree · 16/11/2016 12:49

I had an odd request from a guy on OKC, he asked how I would feel about cuckolding someone in a relationship....wtf does that actually mean!

pringlecat · 16/11/2016 12:55

Lilacpink40 Is there anything in your profile blurb (there's hardly any space on Bumble) or in your photos to spark a conversation? I've swiped left to cute guys purely because I haven't thought we would have been able to chat about anything.

lastnicknamefree Ignore. He's asking you to help him cheat!

Lilacpink40 · 16/11/2016 14:13

Pringle I'll try looking agai, I tried to add text but not sure if it worked.

Lastnick def one to avoid!

Super I wouldn't search for 7 years younger but would say no iyswim.

Just snooped cyberstalked Mr hat and he still has his ex girlfriend's photo on fb, but it went up 6 months ago. I can see a different image on what's app so wonder if he started a new page. He said things had ended a year ago and he's dated since, so this could be dating since (different surnames). I'm highly suspicious person though. Her FB page hasn't been active for similar period but has their photo in her friend's list. Hmm

Crazy I'd end it if isn't fun. Do you have other irons that you're talking to?

Clawdeen · 16/11/2016 16:07

Well I've just come back from my first date with Mr Hat. It's been my first date in a couple of months. He was lovely and very hot but I just have know idea how he feels. Also, he left it with the words 'keep in touch'. My friend reckons that's the equivalent of thanks but no thanks and if he was interested, he would say he'd call. Who knows? I'm trying not to think about it, what will be will be etc but it is the first online date I've been on where I've actually fancied the guy. Need to find some other irons for distraction.

Now need to catch up with the thread Smile

Mrsfluff · 16/11/2016 16:29

Thanks for the nice thoughts. Sooo, I've just text Mr Gosport and told him, he was lovely about it and so ready knew. I thought he did, as his messages had stepped up a notch. As I was typing the message, I cried Blush

Super, my boyfriend (cringe, that's the first time I've said/written it) is 8.5 years younger than me. Tbh, I have more of an issue with it, he doesn't care at all. I can only speak from my experience, but anyone I've told has been happy for me, as they can see I'm happy. So, don't let it pit you off, if it's the only thing that makes you hesitate!!

WhatAm1doing · 16/11/2016 18:12

Just popping back on here for the first time since July was on the threads over the early part of the year, - few names I still recognise but not many now, hope that means they've all met someone. I met mrvtall via tinder back in July and have been seeing him since then. We've just booked a holiday for next year and are very much boyfriend/girlfriend seems odd to be a girlfriend at nearly 50 but hey it's fabulous.
Just wanted to say don't loose heart keep searching there are genuine guys out there.
Good luck to you all

Lilacpink40 · 16/11/2016 18:32

WhatamI great news that OLD works and enjoy hols.

Pringle* one bumble match popped up. So I replied as a test even though I wasn't sure. See if the process works, provided he replies.

I've managed to give my number out to a man who now sounds a bit of a loafer. How do I back away nicely, just ignore?

Evilwater · 16/11/2016 19:05

I think I get the MN dating bingo:
Not like profile pic,
Clearly wanking to replys
Terrible in bed,
Tiny dick,
Worst two minutes.

OP posts:
Lilacpink40 · 16/11/2016 19:14

Evil think you take jackpot Grin

Evilwater · 16/11/2016 19:15

Also a waste of a condom.
The ONLY way I got through it, was thinking of MR. No commitment.

I still miss him.

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lastnicknamefree · 16/11/2016 19:33

So I have a date Friday with MrHighlyunsuitable I mean seriously we have nothing in common and the huge list of why he's unsuitable goes as follows....
Lives 2 hours away
Works as a restaurant manager long hours and days, hardly free
7 years younger
No kids, I have 4 😳
Travels a LOT whereas I'm very restricted by my kids
Posh, well off, private public school upbringing versus my working class
Has most likely dabbled with men, may be bi although he said it was a joke

But! We've been chatting weeks. He's funny, intelligent and really interesting. I know this isn't able to go anywhere because we're too different and I would like a relationship not someone to date once a fortnight but I just feel like to get him out of my system and just SEE I need to go on this date... am I mad?

Lilacpink40 · 16/11/2016 19:34

Evil but you know he'd hurt you in other ways?

You are the prize . Have a Brew or Wine and, next!

AintThatSomething · 16/11/2016 20:16

Evil Wine Chocolate
lastnickname good luck Grin
mrsfluff- exciting! congratulations

Bumble experts- I have no idea what to write in the bio bit Confused Has everyone made theirs funny? My mind is a blank. I didn't even realise you needed one and downloaded the app this morning so it has been sitting all day with none on it. Over thinking this....

Lilacpink40 · 16/11/2016 22:39

Aint I wrote what I was looking for and possibly comes across as dull, but I don't want a class clown aka twat. If I could write a funny message that would contain what I want to say and not attract weirdos I would.

On bumble I wrote to one and now have another to consider and think it said there's two in a queue but don't know what that means.

Other exciting news I have a date planned for Sat and trying to arrange one for week after.Grin but nervous.

AintThatSomething · 16/11/2016 22:46

Thanks Lilac I have bumbled- it's quite addictive Blush and have 4 matches now. What to say...

1 of them has winked at me on match also I think the other day....

Good luck on Sat!!

pringlecat · 16/11/2016 23:03

Lilacpink40 Two in a queue means two have swiped to say they like you but you haven't swiped either way yet.

ROSEANNE1958 · 16/11/2016 23:52

Hello fellow searchers!

I have special difficulties because I am nearly 60, morbidly obese with lipoedema, a feminist. And yet I still have this ridiculous fantasy that I will meet a lovely man online and settle down into a happy and content retirement together.

I put up my profile, tried to sound interesting and approachable, and used some recent pics that are honest about my size, but flattering. I got very little interest. A few men contacted me but they are 300+ miles away, some even in other countries (!) often 20 even 30 years younger and want to use me as some kind of fantasy dominatrix (I'm not a dominatrix!)

I then decided to carpet-bomb everyone within travel distance with a friendly opening message. 90% did not respond. Those that did all turned me down on the grounds of my size. And some were downright insulting about it, too, reducing me to tears.

There is so much more to me than my size. I am a graduate, a businesswoman, very witty and a great conversationalist. I have a huge capacity to love, I am reasonable, friendly, personable and loyal. I am a homeowner, solvent and independent. Unfortunately men when browsing the dating sites see a long line of photos and only message those women they are sexually attracted to. The tackle the personality and compatibility side of it afterwards.

I used to be slim and very attractive, and had hordes of handsome and personable men chasing after me, so it's been really hard having to face the fact that those kinds of men are not interested in being saddled with someone so fat that it amounts to a disability (I cannot walk, I only waddle and struggle to waddle half a mile).

I've adjusted my own requirements so that I will give just about any man a chance so long as he isn't actually dirty or obnoxious, but even men who are fat and bald and ugly are responding to my introductory messages with "sorry, love, you are too fat". It's so depressing.

I've ended up with just four possible prospects, two of which I find physically repulsive but as beggars cannot be choosers I began to exchange messages. One of them turns out to be a foot fetishist and just wants to correspond on that subject and isn't interested in getting to know me. The second one is toothless, covered in tattoos, unemployed, and can barely string a sentence together. The third one was going OK but he started talking about me wetting my knickers and how the idea turned him on and could we do that when we meet. The last one is Too Good To Be True (a stockbroker with an office in Mayfair, a house in Kensington, flash car, stunning good looks and 15 years my junior) and so I have been on the alert for Red Flags. Sure enough he has shown me one: all he wants to talk about is my body. He hasn't asked me a single thing about my personality or likes/dislikes etc. He clearly has a fetish about extra-large women and keeps asking if I have saddlebags and how big my belly is and how many inches my hips measure and quite frankly its creeping me out. I don't want a man to only want me because he has a fetish about my body shape. Besides anything else, such a man would not support my ongoing weigh-loss efforts. He messaged me tonight saying that when we meet for our first date he wants to get me naked and give me an all over massage. I told him I only meet for a coffee and a brief chat, so he's probably going to disappear now.

I'm finding the process a terrible grind, very depressing and upsetting at times.

Also, I am getting a bit irritable with men who write on their profiles that they want a woman who shares their love of good food and wine, wants to indulge in lots of eating out, etc etc and yet they want her to be thin. Grr.

pringlecat · 17/11/2016 00:06

Took a moment to take stock. I am shocked and appalled and also slightly proud of how many men I've spoken to recently. It will take a while to find someone who is relationship material, but I have certainly put myself out there.

ROSEANNE1958 Welcome to the thread! I think the general consensus is that we are all encountering plenty of weirdos and creeps and having difficult moments, regardless of our own sizes. You really are not alone. Keep posting and let us know how you're getting on. Incidentally, have you tried Bumble? Apparently I've started a trend on this thread... Blush Please do read rules 6, 7 and in particular.

AintThatSomething I'm taking a break from it. I kept getting matches and not having time to message them. I feel like my confidence has been lifted though by matching with some half-decent looking men. The men I have connected with enough to message (both on Bumble and POF) have had very varied looks (at the end of the day, I am a sucker for a kind intellectual) but the fact that any reasonably hot men haven't just swiped past me has done a lot for my self-esteem. I am the prize. I am trying to remember that.

AintThatSomething Lilacpink40 I suggest you write something vaguely interesting (even just a hobby you have) and/or include an interesting photo and/or one with animals in it. Basically anything whatsoever that can spark a conversation.