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MIL no-contact, DH sad, what to do?

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DilapidatedGlamourpuss · 19/10/2016 17:17

This is going to be long, and MIL related. Sorry. I just don’t know what to do, and I don’t want to dripfeed. This is so identifying to anyone who knows me but I don’t even care anymore.

I’ve been with my DH since we were 18 (we met at uni), and we married this year. We are in our late twenties. We relocated earlier this year for his job to the US. Our relationship is mostly great and we are very happy together. There’s one problem, my MIL. We are now completely estranged and its breaking my DH’s heart. We are due to go home for Christmas and I have no idea what we’re going to do.

I’ve always felt that MIL has disapproved of me, and we have clashed over the years when I have refused to toe the party line like the rest of the family. Everyone does what she says, because if they don’t she cries, or is ill, or starts an almighty row. I’m not used to such a manipulative dynamic in my own family, and it made me very wary of her.

Whatever we did wasn’t the right thing. Jobs, where we chose to live, the fact we hadn’t bought a property by 25, our friends, the fact that I have had MH problems and have had some time out of work over the last few years due to ill health.

When I was 19 and disclosed that I had been abused she asked whether I had been tested for STIs, as she didn’t want me to pass anything on to her son. I was going through the ordeal of seeing the case go to trial, giving evidence in court and watching it be plastered all over the national news at the time. It made me feel so ashamed and dirty and I have never forgotten it. She tried to persuade my DH to leave me at the time, something he let slip. I let it go then, as I was grateful she hadn’t thrown me out of their home for my disclosure. I have come a long way since then.

Over the years, I veered between avoiding her and trying to be accepting of her personality, out of love for my then DP. There were times when we got on better, even though I still felt the underlying disapproval. So, last year we got engaged and planned a wedding very quickly as we wanted to move to the US. We would have got married in the following 18 months-2 years, but we had been given this opportunity of a lifetime and to be together needed to be married. And that’s where the trouble began.

She ruined our engagement party by crying and storming off when she found out we weren’t going to be married in church. She continually made digs about this, even though she knew I had been abused in a church setting and this was really triggering for me, which I explained to her. She goaded me into screaming at her and getting completely hysterical when we went round there by constant little digs about how what we were planning wasn’t good enough, because she didn’t have enough involvement. I tried to involve her in the beginning, but she wanted to entirely take over so I drew back.

In the interests of full disclosure, we asked her to make the cake as this is something she does as a hobby and is very good at. I thought it would be a good way to make her feel involved, but I think this was a mistake. They also offered money, which we accepted. This was also not a good idea - we were able to pay for the wedding but I think DH didn’t know how to not accept their offer. I did meet her and forgive her for the above, before Christmas. I made some compromises to try and make her happy – not having the humanist ceremony we really wanted and we tried to accommodate them with the food.

My DH left for the US in January a few months before the wedding, so on the whole I had to plan it without him, but was running everything past him over Skype. I met her for coffee with my DMum, as I had a feeling she was going to create a scene or try and manipulate me, which is exactly what happened. What was meant to be a talk about wedding plans turned into her screaming that the wedding would be a shambles, it wouldn’t be real as it wasn’t a church wedding and that she wasn’t coming. In a shopping centre. It was so embarrassing and I was very upset. We tried to cut the scene short, and walked away. She followed, shouting at us. This is because I told her we would be getting married in another room than originally planned, because the guest list had gone up. She then sent me a very malicious text after. My DP was in the US, absolutely heartbroken and bewildered that she had said she wasn’t going to come.

To cut a very long story short, she came to the wedding and we managed to keep it civil. This was through various people in the DH’s family putting pressure on me to meet her and talk about it. Everyone is desperate to placate her all the time. After the wedding, I discovered she had tried to manipulate the wedding planner into changing the room, been horrible to my bridesmaids when they changed their dresses in the evening, ran our wedding down to anyone who would listen and had a massive row with her DSis because I met her for lunch. As far as I know, they still aren’t speaking.

After this, I decided I could have no contact with her. She made the run up to our wedding the most miserable time of my life, when it should have been happy. She does not understand why I won’t have anything to do with her, even though she has had it explained by various family members. My DP is desperate to have us in the same room at Christmas- we are both homesick and he is so sad that we are estranged, even though he is completely on the same page that what she has done is awful. She is still his Mum and he loves her, even though he doesn’t like her behaviour. I hate seeing him cry about this, but I’m still so angry with her I think meeting her would make it worse. I feel such hatred and bitterness towards her for everything that has happened over the years and I don't want to inflame the situation further by losing my temper.

So – does anyone have any idea where to go from here? If you got to the end of this congrats, it was long.

OP posts:
ohfourfoxache · 19/05/2017 19:00

I really hope you can connect with this therapist Vodka. It would just be so helpful to immediately find it really useful and feel that you're able to stick with them.

When is your appointment?

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 21/05/2017 05:45

Hope you're OK Vodka x

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 24/05/2017 11:44

Just checking in to see how you are getting on.

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 24/05/2017 22:11

Hey everyone, been a really busy week as we have a guest staying with us. I'm ok- we are having our intake session with the therapist next week now as it's been hard to arrange around having someone to stay.

Things elsewhere not so good unfortunately- looks like I might get dismissed from my temp job because of an email I sent (nothing bad, about a technical issue). I only found out today. But tbh all this pales in comparison to what is happening in Manchester Sad I have just been looking at my life and thinking how bloody lucky I am. Absolutely heartbreaking stuff.

ohfourfoxache · 25/05/2017 00:00

Vodka! Hello love, been thinking about you Thanks

It is awful, isn't it? All those innocent lives and grieving families, it makes my blood run cold Sad

I know this is all mumbo jumbo, but sometimes (just sometimes) things happen for a reason. Let's face it, you hate that job. It's not fulfilling and you don't enjoy it. So could this possibly be a good thing? It will give you some time to find something you do want.

Brilliant that things are progressing on the therapist front Thanks

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 25/05/2017 06:21

Hugs, yes I could just cry at the senselessness (sounds like a made up word) of it all.

I agree with four that you've been unhappy in your job so if they want to dismiss you over a mistake, then take it as a push to find something that makes you happier.

Here if you want to rant/rave.

Makealist1 · 25/05/2017 11:00

Hi. Been lurking. Glad you've posted us a catch up vodka.

I agree that things do happen for a reason - sometimes because you can use them as a springboard for [ much needed] change, and sometimes because, at a future date, you realise that the alternative could have been worse. Although it might not seem like it at the time.

[ *** NOT talking about the Manchester tragedy obviously. Some things are too shit to ever find a silver lining ] .

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 28/05/2017 18:35

Good luck for this week. How are you feeling and how are you and DH doing at the moment?
x

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 30/05/2017 23:38

Hi Cake, I'm doing well. All the better for having my phone back haha! It broke last week and a replacement has only just arrived. Though it was a good thing really- DH and I spent the weekend together and felt much more connected without always being on our devices.

First session tomorrow. Fingers crossed! X

ohfourfoxache · 30/05/2017 23:54

Fantastic that your session is imminent, and I'm so glad that you're feeling more connected.

How are you doing yourself? Any progress on your MH symptoms/getting them back under control? I really hope that as things stabilise with DH that it has improved (hope you take that in the way that it's meant, I don't quite know how else to put it Blush )

noova61 · 30/05/2017 23:55

Hello Vodka, I was only thinking of you today and wondering how you and hubby were.
Good Luck for tomorrow..xxx

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 31/05/2017 06:14

Hope it goes well. Let us know if you need to brain dump after.

ohfourfoxache · 02/06/2017 10:32

I'm thinking of you Vodka. Really hope that the first session went well Thanks

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 02/06/2017 14:44

Hi all. It actually went really well. We both got our chance to give the therapist our history, and a summary of why we were there. It was constructive and I'm hopeful. He didn't try and minimise MIL's behaviour to the therapist. He did say maybe we can change her if we change and we had to talk that out a bit- he still doesn't really get that change can only come from her (and isn't going to happen).

It's his birthday this weekend, so we're taking the day off together. I'm ok. Thank you all Flowers

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 02/06/2017 16:15

Sounds like a positive start. Hope the two of you have a lovely time.

ohfourfoxache · 02/06/2017 16:33

I'm with Cake- it sounds extremely positive! Bloody well done lass, I'm really pleased you've started.

Hope you have a fantastic time xx

Coconut70 · 02/06/2017 18:24

fabuloso! well done to you both its very hard work xxxxx

Xocaraic · 03/06/2017 20:39

Long time lurker, first time poster :-)
Good luck to you both. It will require hard work but you sound like you are willing to do that work.
Best wishes. Good vibes being sent your way.

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 05/06/2017 06:15

Hey, just checking in to wish you good luck for the week. Are you guys having another session? How is work?

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 05/06/2017 20:17

Hey Cake, thank you Star work is not great but I've made the decision to give notice at the end of the month and that's carrying me through it

We have our next session this week. Have been feeling a bit anxious about the process as we were told we might have to wait for me to have a psychiatric evaluation before it went ahead due to a suicide attempt I made when I was 18.

They came back today with the news that we can go ahead without one and start the couples therapy properly. I explained the context (that SSRI did not agree with me, it was also just before I disclosed abuse to the police and my family) and talking about it actually made me realise how far from there I have come, and that whatever MIL says or does cannot be worse than what I've already survived.

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 05/06/2017 20:37

Well done you. You have indeed done well. Roll on the end of June then!

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 10/06/2017 20:44

Hope you're hanging on in there. You've made it through another week of work. Gin

VodkaLimeSoda27 · 13/06/2017 12:42

Hi Cake, yes I'm hanging on. I'm giving notice at the end of the month and thinking about that when my colleague makes sexist comments to keep the neutral expression on my face...

DH really engaging with sessions which is great. I was worried he might not take it seriously but he really is.

My next worry is Christmas haha- parents told me that they are thinking of going away somewhere hot. While I'm happy for them, it's definitely going to force DH to make a choice (which is probably why they are doing it). So this is going to be interesting. I'll definitely bring it up with the therapist and see what they say.

TheWorldHasGoneToCake · 13/06/2017 20:01

Well that definitely would be a decision to make. Are your parents hoping you'll join them or not putting any expectations on you?

Hope your notice flies by!

Glad to hear he's putting some work into this, you deserve it.

Spadequeen · 13/06/2017 20:04

I'm so pleased he's finally taking this seriously. Good luck

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