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Has anyone ever sorted out a completely, utterly, fucked up life?

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WindfallenArch · 30/09/2016 14:36

I've no job, no friends, a disastrous marriage, no money, family all dead. I have two tween kids who used to make it all worthwhile, but now look at me with contempt and have no interest in being in the same room as me let alone doing something together. I'm a 42 year old fat alcoholic and I'm utterly pointless. I drag myself sadly through each day and I see no joy in anything at all. It hurts in my heart all the time I'm awake.
Has anyone ever sorted themselves out after fucking up everything they touched?

Sorry for the self pity. Today is particularly excruciating.

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WindfallenArch · 17/10/2016 22:38

hiding oh God, that struck a chord. That's exactly how I am. Everything seems banal, boring and yet catastrophic and beyond redemption. Counting the minutes is hard.

Can you talk about what happened to you a bit more? Do you want to?

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Hidingtonothing · 17/10/2016 22:45

I don't mind Wind, it's far enough in the past that I'm as 'over it' as I ever will be, you may well think less of me when you know the full story though. Need to feed the dogs so give me a few minutes and I'll be back with the whole sorry tale.

WindfallenArch · 17/10/2016 22:57

hiding sorry tale or not, you clearly have insight. I'd be grateful for any way of reframing this, and inspired to know how you found your way. You clearly have found a better approach.

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FusionChefGeoff · 17/10/2016 23:02

Did you get a Starter Pack at your AA meetings? There's a wonderful card in there - called Just For Today which suits you down to the ground right now. I clung onto mine, carried it everywhere and read it if I felt overwhelmed.

JUST FOR TODAY
Just for today I will try to live through this day only, and not tackle my whole life problem at once. I can do something for 12 hours that would appal me if I felt I had to keep it up for a lifetime.

JUST FOR TODAY
Just for today I will be happy. Most folks are as happy as they make up their minds to be.

JUST FOR TODAY
I will adjust myself to what is, and not try to adjust everything to my own desires. I will take my luck as it comes, and fit myself to it.

JUST FOR TODAY
I will strengthen my mind.
I will study I will learn something useful.
I will not be a mental loafer.
I will read something that requires effort, thought and concentration.

JUST FOR TODAY
I will exercise my soul in three ways, I will do someone a good turn, and NOT get found out. If anybody knows of it, it will not count. I will do at least two things I dont want to do just for exercise
I will not show anyone my feelings are hurt, they may be hurt, but today I will not show it.

JUST FOR TODAY
I will be agreeable, I will look as well as I can, dress becomingly, talk low, act courteously, criticise not one bit, not find fault with anything, and not try to improve or regulate anybody except myself.

JUST FOR TODAY
I will have a program. I may not follow it exactly, but I will have it. I will save myself from two pests, hurry and indecision.

JUST FOR TODAY
I will have a quiet half hour all by myself and relax. During this half hour sometime, I will try and get a better perspective of my life.

JUST FOR TODAY
I will be unafraid. Especially I will not be afraid to enjoy what is beautiful, and to believe that as I give to the world, so the world will give to me.

marriednotdead · 17/10/2016 23:08

Mess free jigsaws Smile
My exh used to say that he'd have to be doing a life sentence to ever do a puzzle. Every single fecking time I got one out. One of the 1001 ways he was a twat Hmm

You've reminded me that I'll probably be doing the lonely bit next year. I got over DD leaving home a few years ago but she came back this year with her DP and toddler DGS in tow so that they could save for a deposit, they plan to buy in the summer and marry in autumn. Can't bear thinking about them moving back out. So I shan't

WindfallenArch · 17/10/2016 23:11

Yikes fusion , I'm a little bit freaked out by how much that was just exactly what I needed to read. Wow. I felt something small, hard and angry in the small of my back relax and let go.

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FusionChefGeoff · 17/10/2016 23:23

It's kinda like that in AA - someone always has something that works even when you least expect it

WindfallenArch · 17/10/2016 23:24

Hello married! That's a great thing you did. You must know your DGS has a bond with you that's beyond anything you could have built any other way? And you did something amazing for DD and her partner. You made bonds stronger than normal, modern, compartmentalised society choses to. It takes a village to raise a child. I regret not having a micro village for mine - you were there. It's carved into his early days and his happy start.

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FusionChefGeoff · 17/10/2016 23:24

And the 'dress becomingly' bit always makes me smirk a bit as I realise I've left my bustle and crimpolene at home today

marriednotdead · 17/10/2016 23:41

It wasn't entirely planned that way! When ex moved out he took his 3x mine salary with him and I went back onto tax credits to top up my low wage/support me and teen DS. Luckily we're in social housing. Knowing tax credits would finish this summer (he's 19), I told DD I had plans to take in a lodger to cover the rent. Her response was 'we'll move in before a stranger does!' It works surprisingly well although I wish there was a second/separate bathroom some days...
DGS has been mine every Monday since she finished mat leave anyway but I adore the cheeky little monkey with an intensity as strong as for my own DCs and find I have far more patience than they ever received Blush

WindfallenArch · 17/10/2016 23:46

fusion the vast majority of the AA stuff I've ploughed through assumes the swerving of a full on Arthur Miller Male style implosion. I wasn't imagining frocks as part of my recovery.

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WindfallenArch · 17/10/2016 23:52

married DGS will be besotted. Patience and love as a bundle are a pretty heady mix for mini people.

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WindfallenArch · 18/10/2016 00:08

hiding I'm only just learning how to sleep, and my eyes are closing. I can't pass up the chance - it doesn't come that often. I hope you can tell me your story. I'm keen to hear it.

Seems like I've not failed eventually tonight

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Hidingtonothing · 18/10/2016 00:31

Ok here it is, I'm not going to dress it up or try to justify what I've done, it is what it is and all I can do now is not go back.

I was an addict from my teens onwards, I had clean spells, the longest was when I was TTC and then pregnant with DD, I didn't intend to use again after she was born. But I did.

I was a functioning addict, as much as you can be, DD was fed, clean, didn't want for anything but I doubt I was fully 'there' some of the time and there were things going on around her and people coming to her home she should never have been exposed to.

DH was an addict too and, when we struggled to fund our habit, a small time dealer. We lived in an area where it was pretty much normal, there was no need to make a secret of our lifestyle, no one batted an eyelid.

And then one night it caught up with us, the local scumbags realised we might have something worth stealing and kicked our door in at 1am. It was like something out of a film, 6 men in balaclavas with knives and a gun were suddenly in our living room demanding money and drugs. And then 2 of them went upstairs to search, upstairs where my 4 year old daughter was asleep in her bed. I begged to be allowed to go to her, could think of nothing but how scared she would be and that they might hurt her if she got in their way. It seemed forever til they finally let me go up, she was terrified and I held her tight while they ransacked the other rooms. I could hear them beating DH downstairs so I sang to her as loud as I could so she wouldn't hear.

We were lucky, none of us were seriously hurt and it forced changes we would never have made alone. Our housing association saved us really, they gave us an emergency transfer away from that area, we didn't deserve it really but it's given us a whole new start. I will never forgive myself for what happened to DD that night, it was our job to give her a home where she was safe and instead we were the reason she wasn't. Miraculously she's come through it pretty much unscathed, it's been 3 years and she barely remembers, I remember though.

I had PTSD type anxiety for about a year, couldn't have used even if I'd wanted to (and I did want to at times, despite everything) because it would have made the anxiety worse and messed with my medication. DH felt so guilty and responsible I don't think it even crossed his mind to go back to using. Bizarre as it sounds they did us a favour, we may well have still been there, living the same excuse for an existence if they hadn't done what they did. As it stands we're clean and happy, we live in a nice area with nice neighbours, we live a normal life.

So there it is, the worst night of my life and the best thing that could have happened to me at the same time, my wake up call I suppose. I wouldn't blame you if you thought less of me now you know and I'm not sure how my experience can be applied to your situation really. I guess the potential for our DC to lose us could be compared, those men could have killed us that night and you could kill yourself if you carry on drinking but that's the closest to a parallel I can see.

I can tell you that there is a better life when you're free of addiction though, that's my reason for posting on your thread all along. You live the same half life I lived for so long and it's a waste of your life, reality is hard sometimes but nowhere near as hard as running away from that reality becomes when you've been doing it a while. I could write a lot more, my reasons for using in the first place, the things I was trying to blot out so I didn't have to face up to them. I just wish I'd realised that facing those demons would be much easier than the demons I was creating by using.

Hidingtonothing · 18/10/2016 00:41

Sorry it took so long, it was harder to write than I anticipated. What a depressing essay for you to wake up to, I am sorry Wind Blush

marriednotdead · 18/10/2016 07:08

Actually I don't think it is in the scheme of things hiding. Yes, of course it was horrific, but what a fantastic turnaround, especially as you have both stuck it out together and are both giving your DD the future she deserves. I would only think less of you if you hadn't taken the wake up call as an opportunity to fix things so it's a 'well done' from me Flowers

One of my sisters strongly believes in asking the universe for solutions, a bit of cosmic ordering I suppose you'd call it. She's an exceptionally intelligent, non woo individual.
She is cautious with it because although she says she always gets what she asks for, there's invariably a price to pay. Sometimes I wonder.

WindfallenArch · 18/10/2016 08:40

Hey hiding - not depressing or too long at all, quite the opposite. Moving and inspirational would be how I describe it. You totally turned it all around and that's what I came here to ask for - proof that it can be done. People end up in bad places for lots of different reasons, but you took your cue and did all the hard work to sort it all out. How are you now?

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BantyCustards · 18/10/2016 09:29

Good morning, Wind.

SW1A1AA · 18/10/2016 09:31

Wow, Fusion. Love that - I've copied it and saved it. Great stuff.

Hiding - Flowers. There are some incredibly inspirational people on this thread.

WindfallenArch · 18/10/2016 09:54

Right, I've been lazy this morning and I'm still in my PJs, which is not 'comely' as my new Rules for Living suggest. Today I shall not be a querulous arse, I'd like to try my hand at the unseen good deed, but I'm fresh out of ideas. Perhaps inspiration will strike. A meeting is a good place to start.

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BantyCustards · 18/10/2016 09:55

Donate anonymously to a just giving page or a charity? No one will know about it

FusionChefGeoff · 18/10/2016 11:50

The good deed can just be taking out the bin when it's usually someone else's job. Or picking up a bit of litter. Nothing major but a small step to improving your self esteem which I would wager is significantly screwed right now.

Hidingtonothing · 18/10/2016 12:23

I read your responses through my fingers but thank you all for not judging, what happened is my deepest shame and my greatest achievement rolled into one and that's a weird position to be in.

Honestly Wind, I'm good, life is good. Boring by some people's standard but I kind of savour that, there's no rollercoaster these days and I don't miss it at all. DD is my focus, she's wonderful, bright and funny and kind, and not damaged like she could have been if we'd carried on living like we were. I'm proud of that, and grateful in a weird way, an old friend of mine always used to say that without the bad bits of life you don't appreciate the good and she was right, I don't think I would value what I have as much as I do if I hadn't almost lost it.

I still have flashbacks sometimes, still sleep with a baseball bat hidden down the side of my bed, still struggle to sleep but it's better than it was. For months I would lie there planning what I would do if they found us and came back, I did the one thing you're not supposed to do in those circles and grassed you see. That night pushed me out of that lifestyle forever and I reacted the way a 'normal' person would have, I told the police who they were. I'll never forget the look on DH's face when I did it, I think we both knew in that moment there was no going back, I well and truly burned our bridges.

I see it as the day I returned to the human race, I did what any mother would do when their child's safety has been threatened and it totally overrode the unwritten code I'd learned to live by as an addict. The 'leader' lived on the same street as us, I knew his voice as soon as I heard it despite the balaclava and him and his little gang had form for doing the same to anyone they thought might have a 'stash'. It meant we couldn't stay there though, I didn't consciously do it to get us out of there but maybe subconsciously I was trying to get us a new start.

It's nice that people think my story is inspirational but I feel something of a fraud. I don't think I really had any choice but to turn my life around, that's what I meant early on in the thread when I said my route was mapped out for me. Putting your child in that much danger really is the lowest of the low, where else was there for me to go but up? But yes, I suppose it is proof it can be done and I'm happy if that gives someone a bit of hope.

Lapinlapin · 18/10/2016 13:17

Hiding that must have been such a horrific ordeal. I think you are inspirational for turning your life around the way you did. I'm glad you're happy now Flowers

Brankolium · 18/10/2016 15:11

Hiding your story is inspirational because it is full of hope. Hope that there is a way out of anything even when things seem impossibly dark. Yes, maybe it was mapped out for you to an extent, but you still had to choose to hold on the new life that was thrust upon you. You could have gone back to using and misery somehow or other if you had been determined. And nobody is in a position to judge you, even if they think they are!

Wind I'm pleased for you that things have continued to go well in spite of feeling like a caged animal. That shows real strength. The stuff with your husband will have a solution, but I agree with the others who said it doesn't need addressing yet. If you think he's essentially a good man (which I think you have before?) then I wouldn't waste time worrying about it - living with an addict can leave you faced with lots of impossible choices!

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