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He hasn't come home

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NoCapes · 11/09/2016 07:27

"D"P goes out a lot, I've started threads on him before, I mean he literally goes out 4/5 times a week
And he goes out every single Saturday night
He always gets in early hours of the morning and he sleeps on the couch
There's been the odd 'emergency' where he comes in at 8/9am-ish (friend was in hospital after a fight etc)
He's come in twice with make up on his t-shirt

Last night he went out and I've just got up with the baby to discover he hasn't come home
His phone is switched off

Will you all give me a shake and tell me the absolute glaringly obvious?...

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SandyY2K · 11/09/2016 22:16

Nocapes

Keep soldiering on. You're doing great and you'll be doing even better when he's out of your life, except to coparent with.

Don't cave. Enough of him taking the piss and coming and going as he wants.

Let all those women who fancy him at work and the barbers know that he's 100% available immediately.

Stay strong.

NoCapes · 11/09/2016 22:16

I won't let him talk me round this time I really really won't
If nothing else just because I'll have to admit it to you lot Blush

We haven't spoken since the kids went to bed, I came up, had a shower and besides going down for a drink I've been up here since, he's made no attempts to communicate - so much for this conversation that he had to stay another night for because we had to have it tonight ey?!

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NoCapes · 11/09/2016 22:17

Sandy I'm sure those women have been being told he's available for a long long time

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PurpleElsa · 11/09/2016 22:27

He will probably be thinking if he stays out of the way it will blow over.

Funko · 11/09/2016 22:29

Throw him a pillow and a bin bag full of stuff to last him a few days and remind him it's his last night in the house, and not to bother attempting to sleep in your bedroom.

FeckTheMagicDragon · 11/09/2016 22:34

I tried to figure out why my XH behaved like he did for years. He was always after the next good thing, but it was never enough. Eventually I figured out it didn't matter. Not my problem. I deserved to be happy - either on my own or with someone new. I deserved to be valued. I deserved someone who cared, and showed it every day. Not gestures. I told my DH when we got together never to buy me flowers, etc if he fucked up. Just apologise, mean it. And don't do it again. I mean it's not hard is it?

You deserve the same. And you can have it. Just got to get over this bumpy bit first.

MadeForThis · 11/09/2016 22:36

Good luck for tomorrow. You're worth so much more than him. Please don't speak to him tonight. He has nothing left to say. His actions speak much louder than words.

Mix56 · 11/09/2016 22:39

He will try & come into the bed & "make up"..... Can you lock the door?
Throw his work clothes on a chair & tell him the rest of his stuff can be picked up tomorrow & you will be calling his mother.

helenatroy · 11/09/2016 22:43

What they all said. Especially the locking your bedroom door bit. Early start, children out to school then throw the tosser out.

SirVixofVixHall · 11/09/2016 22:45

I agree with Feck. My first relationship was with someone who turned out to be really horrible, once the charm offensive wore off and the more obvious manipulation kicked in. Once I left him, I remember cycling down a hill to work and feeling a stab of absolute joy. Just freedom and happiness, finally feeling safe. The relief! Your life will be transformed Capes, not to be spending your days so unloved and undervalued, treated like an object. I wish you all the luck in the world.

Funko · 11/09/2016 22:49

For you. Grin

He hasn't come home
DillyDingDillyDong · 11/09/2016 23:01

You're amazing OP! FlowersStar

ddrmum · 11/09/2016 23:18

Nocapes- just another voice to tell you you're amazing! You've been through so much pain & I'm so sorry for your loss. Stay strong & resolute even in the darker moments as you and your DC clearly gave a bright future away from this disrepectful cocklodger. Send you strength & all best wishes.

StopLaughingDrRoss · 11/09/2016 23:44

Funko - that is fabulous Grin

Another one just wishing you well and strength and great vibes! You are so strong and you can do it. .. hope tomorrow kicks as much arse as today!!

ThisIsPlanetEarth · 12/09/2016 00:06

NoCapes have read the thread and really feel for you, you have been with him since you were very young and had children when you were young too so this is all you have known for a while but you don't have to put up with this, well done. DH and I are older than you and have young children too but DH probably only goes out socialising without me about 4 or 5 times a year unlike your "D" P who goes out 4 or 5 times a week and stays out all night leaving you at home with the children. That's my DHs choice by the way and I don't want to go out all the time either. When we are not working we want to spend time with each other and our children. You sound like you are doing a great job bringing up your children, good luck x

Lynnm63 · 12/09/2016 01:46

nocapes I've RTFT and I'm so proud of you. I remember some of your old threads but don't remember if I've posted before.
Stay strong and stick to your guns. Did I mention how proud I am of you. Grin well done!! I wish we could see his face tomorrow when he realises you actually mean it.

Littlelostdinosaur · 12/09/2016 06:19

Nocapes I read your post earlier and didn't get chance to reply, I am so pleased to come back and see this update - you're amazing well done for taking such an important first step! I work with people in abusive relationships a lot and many never even get this far, so you're already ahead of the game. You need to follow it through now and don't let it settle back down. Keep that fire in your belly going and get the useless shit out of your house along with all of his stuff so he has nothing to come back for. If there are things that he says he bought that you need (such as a washing machine etc) keep them, you and the Children need them and he will have to prove ownership at small claims of need be but don't let him bully
You into thinking he can take stuff that you genuinely can't live without.

Once he's gone and the Dust settles he will inevitably expect you to calm down and take him back (after all you can't live without him, right?!! Shock) but DO NOT let him minimise any of this and don't let yourself minimise it. I see so many people leave relationships but after a week or two when they have a bad day, the abuse, the injury, the bruising, the isolation, it wasn't really as bad as I thought was it? I miss him and he will
Change, I am
Just over reacting, I feel
Guilty that he's missing the children etc. Whatever it is you feel is normal, but you must go past it and you must remember that this relationship is not happy and is not safe. Your children will be happier and better off, as will you be, without him there. If he is a good dad (which seems questionable based on your information) then it's up to you what access you grant him but make sure you do so through a contact centre or a trusted third party so that he doesn't use them against you or to worm
His way back in with how lovely he can be and "isn't it a shame we aren't all a family anymore". If you feel the children are better off not seeing him then you do have the power to say so and withhold contact. I know that may sound harsh I don't mean it to be but i am just telling you in case you feel you have to let him see them - you don't.

Keep it up, Wonder Woman. You've done amazingly, there will be hard days to come I'm
Sure but they will pass. If you let him stay, there will be worse days and they will repeat on you until he leaves. You are doing the right thing.

If your children question it, just remember that in the future they WILL understand why you did this. Try to remember that if they ended up in an abusive relationship because of the example of this relationship, they would be alot worse off and would rightly question why you didn't leave - any anger they show at you now is the lesser of two evils and time they'll realise it was the best thing for you all.

There are a lot of places you can call for support,'women's aid is a great start but others will depend on where you are.

And if he refuses to leave call the police, they can assist with getting him out (and it will also make sure they have a record of your address should you have further problems and would support you making complaints against him, if you needed to).

Change your phone number if you can so that he doesn't start harassing you via text etc, block him from all social media, along with any of his family friends and mutual friends who he may use to try to get to you, other than about the children. I would suggest having a solicitor make those arrangements if you can. Get added security on the house such as new locks, lights, alarms etc. Again women's aid may be able to help you with this. If he turns up being abusive, drunk, aggregate etc then call 999 immediately.

If he does start harassing you in any way please report that to the police. It will enable them to provide you with a lot of other support through their domestic abuse officers. It may not necessarily result in arrest etc if you didn't want or if it didn't warrant it but it gets you on the radar if there are worse problems with him down the line. You say he can be bitter and make life difficult so I think you really need to think about protecting yourself and the children. You said you aren't scared of him but if he is capable of treating you so badly now it isn't a huge leap for him to become verbally and physically aggressive. Should this come to a point that he needs arresting and prosecuting then the more evidence you have; the stronger the likelihood so keep A record of absolutely anything that is out of line, messages phone calls or physical altercations and arguments. Have someone else with you if you need to see him to prevent anything happening or to at least provide witness to anything untoward.

You've got so much amazing support here, we are all behind you. Well done. Can't wait to read that he's out of the house. Xx
(Sorry for bad typing...little sleep!) xxx

ayeokthen · 12/09/2016 06:26

Morning NoCapes, just wanted to let you know we're still here and hope your night went ok. I know today won't be easy for you, but you can do it. Stay strong 💪🏼

PIVOT · 12/09/2016 07:11

just read this thread through.Bloody hell, you are being amazing. Leaving men like this is never easy let alone when you have lost your baby - you truly are amazing,

I split with one of these types once, he made it easy in the end by pissing off with OW, and then I just didn't let him back when he tried. Best thing that ever happened to me. We didn't have kids though so it was obviously more straightforward. I did have some wobbles but here I am, years on.

I hope you are getting some support regards your loss, it is an awful lot to be dealing with at the moment but him going it is what needs to happen and I think those events can be related - you know, him behaving like this in the wake of what you have been through needs to have been the straw that broke the camels back. I couldn't function for weeks after having a miscarriage (and that was a medically managed MC, let alone having to give birth so you really have been through hell). You deserved better your whole relationship but especially so at such a vulnerable time. Hold on to that: other people's partners do not go out on the lash to this extent and stop out in the wake of this. you deserve LOVE.

I have never been remotely woo, but I feel a strong connection to my baby in a guardian angel sense, looking after me, supporting me, encouraging me to make the most of this one life. If you find yourself getting overwhelmed by all the change, remember we are all rooting for you. It is okay to get wobbles - leaving a relationship will always make you question yourself, especially when you have kids, and the loss of a child can make other losses hard to bear but you have so much to gain if you keep going on this track.

Flowers for your beautiful baby. May their guardian angel game be strong xx

CalmItKermitt · 12/09/2016 07:35

I really hope you stick to this OP.

Shayelle · 12/09/2016 07:39

Hope you feel as strong today Capes and that fire is in your belly. This creep has mugged you off for years, fuck him right off girl!!!! Good luck today xx

Mix56 · 12/09/2016 07:41

I hope this morning you are still resolute? , Remember there is no panic, take your time. make a list, your time is limited by the needs of your children,
So be organised.

  1. call the CAB & find out what & when you need to do, see if you can get emergency funds? emergency aptmt? tell them your H has left you have 3 kids (1 baby) & no income. TAKE NOTES, there is always a lot to remember.
  2. follow through with their advice, declarations to various agencies, download forms.
  3. call your landlord & explain, ask if you can change the locks, is there anyone to help?
  4. (note to get new barrels from ironmonger on school run later, ditto bin bags, get thick ones, they tear )
  5. Lob in his shit, don't reminisce, do it fast.
  6. Call his mother
7 intersperse this with baby feeds/ naps, coffee, call the school Mum, maybe she could come over?
  1. Tonight when kids asleep take time to read carefully the forms, & fill in slowly.
10. find & hide the birth certs, pay slips, pension, savings, passports, make sure he cannot take or destroy any important documents, change your log in info, on phone, computer, log out of joint whatsapp, fb, cloud.
  1. If you can discover when he is coming to collect his things, could you go out?
10. of course he may not go to work.
NoCapes · 12/09/2016 08:15

Morning all! Thanks for the advice Mix and I love that Funko Grin

Things definitely don't seem as bad today as expected
But I am still going to pack his stuff, just got to figure out what to do with it once I have, I was thinking of just filling the car, driving it to his office and leaving the key with his receptionist, but don't know if that's just a bit...don't know, harsh? Too public? Don't know - am I wobbling already?! Shock

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Inthebathprobably · 12/09/2016 08:18

Where will he be going? His parents you said.

I would text him once he is at work to say 'I've packed your stuff up as discussed yesterday. I will drop it to your parents, or let me know if there is a different place you'd like it. I'll be leaving it at 11am (or whatever) so let me know by then. "

Just factual, no emotion. And don't engage.

If he says anything except where just ignore.

And then do it.

He still doesn't think in a million years you'll do it.

Sending you all the strength today, you can do this and I promise you are heading towards a much better and happier life

(Been there. Got the t shirt. And the happiness now )

NoCapes · 12/09/2016 08:23

Inthebath he hasn't said where he'll be going, the last he said was that he's got nowhere to go
And me & his mum don't speak so I'm not particularly keen to get her involved
Maybe I'll just ask him that's a good idea

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