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"My Husband/WifeWould Never Have An Affair"

252 replies

headinhands · 22/08/2016 22:58

Is it just me but, there seems to be so many 'breakup + ow/om' posts at the moment? Been reading them today and getting angrier and angrier on their behalf and feel so much empathy for them (and very impressed with how mature they're being!)

Got me thinking about how sure some married people are that their partner wouldn't/isn't having an affair. Seeing these posts about these affairs that come out of the blue how on earth can anyone say that? Do you say that about your spouse? And if so what makes you feel you can say that with any confidence?

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FallenStar3 · 23/08/2016 16:20

I think a lot of men are opportunist they don't necessarily go out seeking to cheat but if the opportunity is presented then a lot will take it. I've learned the hard way I can't even look at DH in the same way anymore, I've actually particularly disconnected myself from him

FallenStar3 · 23/08/2016 16:22

I think it's a lot easier to get caught aswell due to social media, my DH it was a photo in a night club.

It makes me wonder if the older generation have had extra material affairs but their partners never found out as that information wasn't as widely available as it is in this era where social media is at its peek.

tosto · 23/08/2016 16:28

It makes me wonder if the older generation have had extra material affairs but their partners never found out

of course they did. A lot.

whywonthedgehogssharethehedge · 23/08/2016 16:28

I think if you are getting married you should have absolute trust in your partner. Sadly all too often they turnout to be fuckwits (men and women) but I think trust is the glue of a good marriage. No one thinks their partner will cheat. Why the hell would you marry someone who you thought would screw you over and rip out your heart?

A good marriage will have two people who have utter trust in each other. It's when one breaks that we are fucked. No one should expect it though. We should all trust until proven wrong.

MrsMargeSimpson · 23/08/2016 16:29

My husband and I can say this about each other as our relationship is at the moment.

He can say it about me forever, I truly never would, I couldn't inflict that pain on anyone and I believe that if I ever wanted to, our marriage would be at and end point regardless, so I would end it.

My husband wouldn't do it unless he'd already decided he wanted out - given that I've made it perfectly clear that it's my total deal breaker. I'd never, ever stay if he cheated. Ever.

tosto · 23/08/2016 16:30

We should all trust until proven wrong

Yes and we should all make sure we are managing our lives in such a way that we could stand on our two feet should we sadly get proven wrong.

Wheelerdeeler · 23/08/2016 16:33

No opportunity. He never stays away overnight. He doesn't work late. He goes out occasionally with his friends (all trustworthy) and comes home when pub closes.

So unless that changed I know he isn't cheating

dontknowwhatcomesnext · 23/08/2016 16:35

It's an ego boost, attention, flattery, being put first, feeling special. It's having something secret because you deserve it. It's an illicit little bubble that takes you out of everyday life, and it won't hurt anyone because you'll stop it before anyone finds out. It's never being told you've had too much to drink and have you put the bins out.

This. This is exactly what my DH would and has said after a year of therapy. Even his therapist told him it didn't have much, if anything, to do with me or the quality of our marriage!

Another one here with the guy who would never do anything like that. I lost count of the number of people who told me that ours was the last relationship they would have suspected would have something like cheating happen in it. My husband adored me when we got married. We had regular, non vanilla sex several times a week, I am a size 8-10, a good cook, a professional. I think I am a nice person. What I am not: 27 and new.

I think the point above re just having to forget our fears and try to enjoy the relationship and be good partners ourselves is right. Just like anything in life, happiness and letting go comes with risk. I don't think I'll ever fully trust again, my DH or anyone else. That may sound a little sad, but you know I think it actually reflects reality better than my old view.

I get a little impatient too with those that say never would their partners do what mine did. It does strike me as rather arrogant (I'm special/my relationship is special!), but I'm willing to cut people some slack and wish them well. I'm not sure scaring people into being paranoid serves anyone well.

areyoubeingserviced · 23/08/2016 17:04

My Dh is a wonderful, good natured , kind etc. However, I could not swear hands down that he wouldn't cheat.
I am not sure if I can even completely trust myself to be honest and I am not the cheating 'type'.

JackandDiane · 23/08/2016 17:11

are you talking about affairs - ie with a view to leaving marriages or one off fucks?

THink the thread seems to be going both ways

JackandDiane · 23/08/2016 17:12

sorry but ' a good cook?

Do bad dinners lead men to stray? [wink}

Twilightoftheinnocents · 23/08/2016 17:19

No opportunity. He never stays away overnight. He doesn't work late. He goes out occasionally with his friends (all trustworthy) and comes home when pub closes

There's a guy like that at my work still found time to cheat with a girl from work during the day ... His poor wife didn't suspect a thing until he forgot to delete his text once.

Razorlightnight · 23/08/2016 17:21

My boyfriend, my soulmate, my best friend. We spent all our time together. Travelled to and from work, met up for lunch every day, lived together and spent most of our free time together withthe odd rare night out alone. Didn't stop him asking strangers on social media for pictures and starting regular sexual conversations with them. I honestly believed we were solid. I still had butterflies when meeting him for our daily lunches after 6 years. I thought he felt the same.

overthehillandroundthemountain · 23/08/2016 17:22

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gillybeanz · 23/08/2016 17:27

Me and my dh would never have an affair, so there. Grin
We don't make any promises about being faithful and have managed 24 years (yesterday) without straying.
I think some couples put too much pressure on one another for faithfulness.

I think those who come off worst are those who say my dh/ dw knows it would be the end. One of them does it hoping not to get caught out and can't be honest about feelings for someone else because the other one would be up in arms, maybe call it an emotional affair and leave.

Justaboy · 23/08/2016 17:28

Just seen this thread.

My now ex wife once had a thing at how can people betray each other like this yada yada!! when a friend of hers ran off with another man. Said she could never do that.

Well guess what? she did just that, and what amazed me was the deceit and lies she cooked up to make it happen I couldn't believe what she was capable of. He's more than welcome to her:(

JackandDiane · 23/08/2016 17:31

how do you KNOW Gilly? You have no idea!

dontknowwhatcomesnext · 23/08/2016 17:33

Affairs usually happen because a need is not being met within the relationship.

Actually, I think this is the single most common and hurtful meme out there re affairs. It presumes something is fundamentally wrong in the primary relationship when it is just as likely that it is a toxic combination of entitlement, boredom, ego boost and opportunity. EVERY long term marriage (say, 10 plus years) will have a period where someone's needs are not getting met. Every single one. We can never be everything to another person, nor can another person always be what we need them to be, not over decades, at least. It is so hurtful when you are cheated on and people keep yammering on about how there must have been something wrong in your marriage that was different from what happens in any long term relationship. I would have told you that our marriage was better than those around us. What a joke (on me). This is where the smugness comes in, the idea that if we just make our relationships perfect (not possible anyway), we're OK. It is infuriating and inaccurate in many cases.

overthehill, I know that's not at all what you mean, and you say that in your next post, but that phrase re needs not getting me really, REALLY gets to me. Can you tell?

overthehillandroundthemountain · 23/08/2016 17:38

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AyeAmarok · 23/08/2016 17:39

are you talking about affairs - ie with a view to leaving marriages or one off fucks?

Both are cheating, so what does it matter? Some will do one, but would never do the other, and vice versa. Most people would, or think they would, end the relationship if they found out their husband had done either.

JackandDiane · 23/08/2016 17:40

but affairs need lots of subterfuge and planning so many people saying their H wouldn't be able to might not have considered a one off works Xmas do fuck kind of unfaithfulness

overthehillandroundthemountain · 23/08/2016 17:42

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gillybeanz · 23/08/2016 17:42

Jack

Because neither of us are interested in affairs and have nothing to fear if the other finds somebody attractive.
Maybe one of us would have before now if we'd seen having sex with somebody else as cheating.
They only do it behind your back if they are unable to tell you, same for both sexes.
I fancy someone tell my dh, maybe flirt a bit, get to know them and think meh, I like what I have and don't need anything else.
Same for him, I can't get him to shag somebody else if I paid him Grin

JackandDiane · 23/08/2016 17:43

i meant maybe he has

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