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Dh is leaving me - bolt out of the blue

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aleC4 · 21/08/2016 23:12

That's it really. We celebrated 15 years married 2 weeks ago. I thought we had a happy marriage. I still love him the same as I did when we met but apparently he doesn't feel the same anymore. He thinks the works of me as a mate but the spark is gone and he no longer loves me.
We have just come back from a week's holiday and had lots of fun but apparently it was just like friends and he can't pretend anymore.
I feel utterly gutted and am so so sad for my children that they are going to have to go through this. I can't think straight at the moment, I just feel sick.
He wants to tell them tomorrow and move out to his dad's round the corner. It is going to destroy my beautiful children.

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Helloooooooo · 27/08/2016 15:05

Agree agree agree! So what if his parents are there when he sees the children? He is obviously happy with that arrangement or he wouldn't be doing it.

Don't worry about what they are doing and who's in charge. It's not your concern. It's only been a week hasn't it? Let them get on with it and everyone will adjust or he will move out.

You said you will fight tooth and nail for the family home. Good. Do that and put that before worrying about where he will live.

Yes you will have wobbles. That's entirely normal and you have been amazingly strong so far. At your stage I was still sitting on the sofa in shock.

Minime85 · 27/08/2016 18:37

Op your DC time with their dad is HIS responsibility. It is not your concern. It hurts I know I've been there but he has to be in charge of that and in time you will feel less responsible for it. Please take care

Minime85 · 27/08/2016 18:45

Just read more of thread. You need to not think about equity etc until you have seen a solicitor and divorce proceeding etc begin when the finances get sorted. You will get more than 50% if he has anything about him and your solicitor as you will provide the main home for dcs unless you are going to have 50/50 shared time. You do not need to worry about how he will pay his bills.

LippyLiz · 27/08/2016 18:54

Alec4 - just checking in for the first time and saying hi. I'm in a similar position and finances are now being discussed. He too wants 50/50. It's incredibly hard I know xx

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LippyLiz · 27/08/2016 19:30

I can understand that feeling Alec. That will pass. H and I have finally split this week after months of betrayal. Back in April when I first found out, I felt scared for the DDs going to stay with him. How was I going to cope etc, quietness of the house, cos we do need them. It gets easier. H doesn't have his own place but I just tell myself it'll be like them being out for sleepovers. I also thought they could just go separately so I'd still 'have one' but I'm over that too. DD2 doesn't want to see him at mo in any case.

aleC4 · 27/08/2016 19:46

So today has been horrible. I took the dc to an event locally that we have always done as a family. It was one of our traditions. I tried my hardest to make it fun but it was awful. We all knew what each other was thinking. I had to swap with dh half way through as he wanted to do it too. He brought the dc home early as they were both upset.
He came in to pick up some stuff and somehow we ended up talking. I know, I know, I shouldn't talk to him but I had to know if there was even a glimmer of hope. I laid my cards on the table and said I still loved him, I was prepared to go for counselling and I thought our relationship was worth fighting for. I was not going to beg but I needed to know he was absolutely certain. It turns out he is.
He has felt this way for a year. So he has definitely been planning it and he has had plenty of time to get his head around it.
He said he thought I felt the same and that I was just plodding along in a friendship as well. He had no idea if the death of my feelings. I think I left him feeling very guilty.
I also told him he must not sign paperwork or agree to take on a house until I have seen my solicitor. I have told him that the money he has offered is not enough and I won't talk about money again, only through my solicitor. I think that shocked him. I'm getting there aren't I?

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shinynewusername · 27/08/2016 19:51

Well done OP - that must have been so hard but you have done the right thing Flowers

Cary2012 · 27/08/2016 20:01

You're getting there, indeed you are.

Sorry you are so upset and it's been a horrible day.

Hope tomorrow is a better one x

louisatwo · 27/08/2016 20:04

Well done - that must have been so hard! Please don't feel you need to apologise for anything that you do - although people on here can sound very stern with all our do not and must not, it's only because we want you to hear and hopefully protect yourself. But at the end of the day, this is your journey and there will be many of us 'walking alongside ' you while you make the decisions that best suit you.

You now know that you have given it your best effort in being so open - but to hear that he has been planning this for a year must have been devastating. Have you managed to get any real life support yet?

aleC4 · 27/08/2016 20:11

I have lots of real life support thank goodness. My parents and one of my sisters are an hour away and my other sister further get but getting lots of virtual support. Tomorrow I will get to see them.
My friends have been amazing and many have come out the woodwork that I don't even know that well. I feel very well supported in terms of emotions.

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louisatwo · 27/08/2016 20:57

That's fantastic. And this board is useful for the wee small hours and just being able to access a wealth of experience.
Wishing you all the best.

Joysmum · 27/08/2016 21:00

Of course he had no idea about how you were feeling because he didn't talk things through with you when he felt your marriage was going off the boil. You could possibly of both done something to rectify things, or st the very least you'd have known how he was feeling to give you chance to prepare your thoughts and feelings.

Then he has the audacity to drop the bomb on you which completely shocked you and then expected you to tell you to be together enough to tell the kids and plan for an unexpected future, with no time to grieve.

What a complete cunt Angry

aleC4 · 27/08/2016 21:02

I have had so much amazing advice in here. I have learnt a lot and it is just nice to know I am not alive and people have come out the other side.
I have had a lovely night with the kids tonight. We have chilled, watched X factor ( which h always hated) and laughed a lot. They have really been on top form. They are amazing.

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LippyLiz · 27/08/2016 21:04

He sounds like my hubby. We're also watching X Factor. First time for us as H hated it too

PacificOcean · 27/08/2016 21:09

So glad to hear you had a nice evening with your DC. You did the right thing with your H earlier too. You didn't beg, but you made it clear this is his choice not yours. It's important he understands that - it's a cop out for him to say 'I thought you were feeling the same way'. Well done ale.

expatinscotland · 27/08/2016 21:13

'It turns out he is.
He has felt this way for a year. So he has definitely been planning it and he has had plenty of time to get his head around it.
He said he thought I felt the same and that I was just plodding along in a friendship as well. He had no idea if the death of my feelings. I think I left him feeling very guilty.
I also told him he must not sign paperwork or agree to take on a house until I have seen my solicitor. I have told him that the money he has offered is not enough and I won't talk about money again, only through my solicitor. I think that shocked him. I'm getting there aren't I?'

Yeah, the scales are falling from your eyes and you're realising what a total arsehole he is. And a coward. And there'll be a 'new' girlfriend soon enough, I'd bet my hat on it.

whirlygirly · 27/08/2016 21:21

I'm so sorry op, I honestly feel sick reading this. You sound so resilient and lovely but when you have chance, in coming weeks, it might be worth seeking some counselling so you can have professional support to get your head round it all.

I have been there. There emerged a close colleague at work. I got the best lawyer I could find (despite Xh repeatedly insisting we could sort it all cheaply and amicably without lawyers, it was the best decision I made) and came away with a deal which meant we didn't need to struggle inc 100% house.

Minime85 · 27/08/2016 21:22

Well done Alec that a huge step. And just want to back up what another poster said, advice isn't meant to be harsh just from experience and knowing it helps in the long run. I would suggest you set up some kind of routine and arrangement about contact with dcs. You need to know who is going to have them when so you can make plans and equally the kids know what's going on. Being back at work will help. It's what kept me going.

Atenco · 27/08/2016 21:28

I have told him that the money he has offered is not enough and I won't talk about money again, only through my solicitor

Well done. I cannot believe he felt that way for a year without even talking to you about it, bizarre to say the least.

aleC4 · 27/08/2016 21:40

Do you know, something weird has happened tonight. The kids are so relaxed. They haven't laughed so much in ages. They are just watching telly, sharing jokes, making up rude songs etc. It's almost as though there has been an atmosphere in the house and no-one realised.

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Cary2012 · 27/08/2016 21:58

Yes, I know what you mean, happened with us when ex left. An invisble black cloud went with him, there was a lighter atmosphere.

Anyway OP, and Liz, and whoever else might be interested, in joining my little venture..

I have an idea for a new tv show, it's called... The Ex Factor. Good huh? Think it'll catch on. ...?

xx

aleC4 · 27/08/2016 22:00

I'm in!

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LippyLiz · 27/08/2016 22:10

Me too Cary.

Alec, I found that. DDs are 11 and 13. The 13 year old actually sits with me in the living room for a chat before she goes to bed whereas she never did when he was here. Both DDs prefer it when H isn't here, which as of Monday, is never X

CafeCremeMerci · 27/08/2016 23:30

Alec. You are amazing. You're doing really, really well. You sound lovely, your STBEXH is a fool.

You are 'getting there' with regard to STBEXH but you've a way to go.

It's SO HARD to explain how things change. It's almost impossible to make someone believe their STBEXH isn't any different to all of ours. So, so many of us thought they meant what they said rev finances & houses, we thought we could do it amicably, we though, without realising it that 'we' were different. I don't know - closer, more caring about each other, more able to trust each other, whatever, but something that made us able to think 'we' could make decisions between us, that 'we' would both keep the promises we made, that 'we' would be able to be close & friends &.... Whatever.

But, as each hour/day/week/month goes by, things change. His feelings, his guilt levels decrease unbelievably quickly, his feeling of responsibility goes out the door too...yes HIM. Your STBEXH - he will change. But I have no idea how to make you believe that 🙁 I know I didn't.

You're not being 'grabby' to get as much as you possibly can in the settlement. Yes you earn a bit more than him, but YOU will be the one responsible for your children. No matter what he says now, he's walked away and he can walk away from financial responsibility too. Yes. Even your STBEXH. I understand that you're conflicted (and you are, it's coming through loud and clear. You say you don't care, but you do and that's understandable - for now) You will be seething if you don't get the very best deal you can, the very best deal, because whether there us an OW or not (and I'm still prepared to eat my iPad if there isn't) there will be a new partner, he will want to live with her, buy a nice house, maybe even have more children with her. He'll want to take her out, go on holiday, buy nice things for her. By then it'll be too late for you to get any mileage out of being pissed off that he's swanning off doing these things whilst you're finding money for school trips, shoes, hobbies, clothes etc for the kids - plus the mortgage, bills etc to maintain a home for the children. You need to do that now, whist unfortunately you're in a position of least feeling like it.

I know it's a HUGE leap of faith, but please, please, try to hear what we are saying & try to believe he really isn't any different to all the others.l

He's already hidden his feelings from you for a long time.
He's already been totally selfish & not shared them with you - so you could both try to see if you could work together to build your marriage up
He's already seen a solicitor - and bollocks it was 'to see what he needed to do'
He's already acted like a 5 year old and promised the kids something he cannot promise (staying in the house).

HOUSE. Do not sign anything that ties you to staying in that house. Yes, right now you want to, but you don't know what will happen & you need your financial freedom - not to be tied up financially with him. I understand you want to stay there & I understand you thinking it's all the children know & it's their home. But honestly, don't get to hung up on that - it's not always the best thing. Sometimes it's much better to have a clean financial & emotional break. Have a think about how different it might feel to not 'see him' doing X, sitting there, putting his keys there, leaving his shoes there, but actually having a new, fresh home where you don't 'see' him at every turn. It's hard to think about right now I know.

Sorry this is SO long, I wish I could talk to you in person, it's so much easier.

Take care 💐