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Anyone up? DH is leaving me follow up thread. Onit's on it!!

980 replies

onitlikeacarbonnet · 20/07/2016 22:26

Link to my last thread.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2658829-Anyone-up-DH-is-leaving-me?msgid=62446916

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Flisspaps · 20/08/2016 10:32

Block him on FB and send his emails to your junk box, then you can control when you see them as you have to go looking for them rather than it being visible in your main inbox

Mix56 · 20/08/2016 16:15

What a dork. Had he not been changing his mind & making threats, the SHL could have done the paperwork & not have to draw up interim contract (altho I must say if they have time for one, it seems like they should have time for the other....) Just tell him its his picking about that caused the delay & he is responsible, & probably he should stop listening to his drunken tart :o)

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 20/08/2016 18:11

Just checking in as also just back from
Holiday. I see LCB has unfortunately not taken time off from being a first class nobber!! Glad you had. A good time though onit...

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 20/08/2016 20:54

Just checking in as also just back from
Holiday. I see LCB has unfortunately not taken time off from being a first class nobber!! Glad you had. A good time though onit...

onitlikeacarbonnet · 21/08/2016 23:36

Had a long, mostly civil conversation about contact for the next few weeks. School starts on Tuesday and we move 2 weeks on Friday Shock)

However, I couldn't help myself at the end of the conversation asking what his intention was when he sent the text on Thursday night saying he didn't want to pay for the preliminary agreement. It actually didn't descend into an argument because I backed away from saying what I wanted to say which is namely NONE OF THIS IS MY FUCKING FAULT YOU COMPLETE ASSHAT!!!!!
Apparently he's been letting lots slide to keep the peace Hmm

He has, however, contacted my solicitor to agree that he's allowing his share of the equity to come to me for my house purchase. So I should be moving in 19 days ShockShockGrin

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Mix56 · 22/08/2016 06:32

Good News, as long as that is all he said to the solicitor

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 22/08/2016 07:19

What a saint he is 'letting things slide'. It's this kind of patronising Supercilious bullshit (which I also get from mine) that really winds me up-and on some level is probably designed to. Well done for not biting.

AgathaF · 22/08/2016 09:37

I bet he's not had to let as much slide as you have. He is a deluded twat.

if I don't answer him he emails, or sends the same message via Facebook - as others have said, block him off FB (why would you want him as a friend or contact on there?), and get his emails automatically forwarded to a different folder that you can access if and when you wish to. There is no reason that he should be able to harrass you in this way, you just need to work around his various methods.

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 22/08/2016 10:33

I second that. I've only just after 5 months stopped responding to things mine has sent straight away. It ensures that I am in the right frame of mind when I do open his messages and can respond better.
He has now taken to texting me to say 'I've emailed you about such bad such'. I ignore that as well.
It has felt a bit better for me to take back some control-maybe that will help you too onit?

toptoe · 22/08/2016 11:08

He's trying to control you with his emails by badgering you at unreasonable times. Block it and contact through a third party - be it a solicitor or a relative. I also think the argument about finance and custody are linked: more custody means less maintanance. In reality, someone who wants to leave a 4 year old at home for a shag doesn't really want the responsibility of lots of contact. He's just arguing so that financially he isn't hit as hard.

Stick to your guns and go for what you are willing to concede. Disucss the behaviour at bedtime and considering leaving the 4 year old alone, your son's anxiety and also the ow's alcoholism. They all play a part in custody arrangements, though he will probably argue that your illness means you are less capable to care for them. So you need as much evidence as possible to push for what your dc need, which is stability and to see dad regularly but for short periods of happy, quality time.

Yes, you'll have the burden of the school runs and the day to day running of things, but just think that when he has them e o weekend you can then go out for meals with friends, cinema, stay in and binge watch netflix etc whilst he struggles playing happy families with someone who must be a bit of an arsehat to have had an affair with a married man like that.

They'll have their problems. They're both cheats and selfish. So there will be conflict.

The children will cope with some dad time, even if he is shouty, as they will then come back to you and at least they don't have him shouting at them every night like he used to. It will be an improvement for them.

I can't do any liasing with my ex and it all goes through a third party. He is just not able to give a shit sadly.

onitlikeacarbonnet · 23/08/2016 20:20

I think it's just going to be difficult until I go back to work and we can get a fixed arrangement in place regarding contact. Until then I will have to rely on him for the majority of our income and contact will be an ongoing discussion.
I hate having to be reliant on him but it's necessary at the moment.

I'm sure he feels the same way in reverse though. He has said having to see me is hard for him; presumably because I'm a walking, talking reminder of his lack of morals, character and integrity. I wonder if he feels any guilt at all. He said he did initially but not since I found my voice and started questioning everything. Now it seems I'm entirely to blame for all the mess. He actually used the phrase "the situation I find myself in" WTAF?!?
It's scary that a seemingly intelligent, well paid, grown up man has no control over his own decision making faculties and places the blame for this at my feet. It's the dark hours it makes me question myself. I mean, am I a narcissist? A sociopath? If he has twisted the past enough, it's possible that's what he believes. I wonder what he says about me to other people; his parents, his counsellor, her.
I know I shouldn't care because I know it's all bullshit but it still hurts that his parents might, at some point, pick a side based on his version of events.

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ConkersDontScareSpiders · 23/08/2016 21:22

I think mine very much believes his own lies and the version of himself that he likes to pedal. Otherwise he couldn't live with himself perhaps.
Yours is probably the same. They compartmentalise it all-and that allows Them to close themselves off from feeling guilty for the pain and misery they have inflicted.

How's the packing going?

onitlikeacarbonnet · 23/08/2016 22:25

It's not. Not tonight anyway.
Ds and I had a rare mum and son date and went for tea at the local Italian. I ate too much and have been lazing on the sofa since he went to bed. I probably should've gone up too.
Tomorrow is my last day with dd before she starts school. I will get stuck in as soon as she goes if only to keep myself busy.

Had word that our buyers have their mortgage offer and the legal stuff we need is being drafted. A couple of signatures is all I need from the LCB and it'll make it easier knowing he can't threaten me with money anymore as the house will be paid for. I'd be able to scrape by on CB, TC and child maintenance till the new year.

I also think he's extremely pissed off that I'm not worse off than I am.
I think he wanted me to crumble so he could take my DC and leave me in the gutter. That's probably closer to his situation than mine despite his salary. But in the new year he'll be a lot better off than he was when we were together since he'll only be paying just above the minimum maintenance; just over 20% of his take home pay. How is that right?

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Kittencatkins123 · 23/08/2016 22:41

There are a morbid host of things to dislike about this chimera of a human but that is fucking low - how can he paint himself as the devoted father, yet offer you the actual bare minimum in maintenance?

I'm up in Scotland this week, can I physically (or at least verbally) abuse him on your behalf? Nothing specific, just an out of the blue, random scenario that shits him the hell up.

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 23/08/2016 22:54

It's not right. None of it is. Except the parts where you have taken charge of this and pulled yourself through. What a top bird he has lost-what a mug he really is.
Think how happy you'll be in your new little house. And how miserable he will be when he wakes up one day and wonders what the fuck he has done.

onitlikeacarbonnet · 23/08/2016 23:11

Oh kitten how that made me smile Smile if only.

Conkers just saw your Xmas thread. What an utter twat your LCB is too.
Go to your parents and fuck him!
I'm dreading the Xmas talk because I haven't got parents to fall back on. When he has them at Xmas they'll have a normal family Xmas, albeit without mummy. When I have them it'll be just the three of us. I'm devastated every time I think about it. He'll have the "best for the kids" option every time and I'll be all by myself grieving for the life I used to have and missing my DC knowing they're probably not even noticing I'm not there as there'll be lots of other people/distractions and only me missing.
When I think about it I could quite easily understand the urge to do something extreme.

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Kittencatkins123 · 23/08/2016 23:25

Just the three of AWESOMENESS!

When I was little my dad wasn't around for a very long period of time and my happiest memories are me, my brother and mum living in a tiny one bed with a converted-electrical-cupboard-kids-room flat playing 'the crocodile game' (my mum was the crocodile catching us) and also this awesome idea where we put paper plates on the floor like a kind of 'light up' dancefloor (lol) turned the lights off and danced around to music on the stereo like we were at an actual eighties DISCOTEQUE.

It was fucking ace, and my shit selfish bastard fuckface of a father never came up with anything remotely as good, even when he threw money at us as an attempt to detract from THE CHEATING LYING SHITBAG HE WAS (AND IS, AND ALWAYS WILL BE).

So fuck all that shit.

Also, you're the best. Wine

onitlikeacarbonnet · 23/08/2016 23:34

Thanks kitten

I might steal the paper plates idea Smile
I will obviously make the best of whatever it is for DC when it comes but I still can't help but feel so gutted that he's done the dirty on me but it's me that'll pay on these occasions. I already am. There's been at least 3 "family" occasions that I've been left out of because all our family occasions are his families occasions.

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onitlikeacarbonnet · 23/08/2016 23:37

Sorry I need to go to bed as I'm getting really negative now. I can't let myself wallow too long or I might never get out of the ditch.

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Kittencatkins123 · 23/08/2016 23:52

"Families" are fucking overrated. Awesome badass mums of joy never are.
Get a good night lovely.

Mix56 · 24/08/2016 07:24

onit. today is full of new positiveness !
I am convinced that one day he will wake up & look at his drunken slut & realise that it's all a terrible mistake... But he will be stuck with his 80% of salary, no kids on a daily bais, & it will hit him like a truck that he made a monumental mistake.
Or, he sombres into a daily drunken evening scenario with her & drops off the bottom of caring.
He has yet to prove that he will take contact seriously, at the moment its point scoring, but what if they don't like the slut? & she doesn't want to curtail a headbanger evening in the pub?
You are their constant, the bottomless wealth of love & security will come from you, & they will love you for it. Take heart.

Dowser · 24/08/2016 07:44

Thoughts are with you bonnet.
I've got a tough one today too, so I know how it goes.
Just remember...you're an awesome mum.

Kids aren't daft.

They know who has their best interests at heart.

ConkersDontScareSpiders · 24/08/2016 13:33

Exactly. Chin up onit. You are doing great.

onitlikeacarbonnet · 26/08/2016 07:19

I've ignored yesterday's text about him taking them away on holiday at half term 😩😢
I've temporarily blocked them both on fb (I'd already been blocking them from posts anyway but this means I won't see their stuff either). Not sure if that means I'll stop getting messenger texts.
Packing is slow.
Dd started school yesterday. Such an emotional wreck after I left her. LCB had walked with us to school and we left at the same time. Not sure if he realised I was crying but his idea of small talk was to ask if I'd hard from my solicitor. I just gave him a WTF look and said I wanted to be by myself and walked on ahead away from him.
What a fucking unfeeling, uncompassionate, self-centred, selfish twat. But it would've surprised me more if he hadn't been so I guess I'm getting better at this.

So annoyed that he's ruined yet another memory of a milestone in my babies life by just being present.
Actually feeling pissed off that he hasn't just done a runner on us all. Would be easier not having to deal with his constant intrusion into my life.
Can not wait till I'm in our new home and I can ignore him if I want; and, once the finances are signed off, I can relax a bit.
Then I can deal with what should be the odd text about wellies and school and I'll only see him a few times a week for pick ups and drop offs. Hopefully he'll do it at the gate so I can avoid him avoiding looking me in the eye.

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Mix56 · 26/08/2016 08:06

I remember crying at the school gate when my DD first went to school. indeed a milestone moment... He wouldn't understand.
Sadly it looks like he isn't really ready to get on with his new life....