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Can't afford Relate but MIL is offering to pay - WWYD?

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LazyCake · 18/07/2016 08:58

DH and I have been having lots of problems, for a very long time. We recently started to receive counselling from Relate, but are really, really struggling to pay for the sessions, which take place every week and cost £65. The counselling has been helpful to a degree, it makes me feel calmer as I am no longer dealing with all the problems and worrying about the future on my own. DH says that he enjoys it (a bit odd, but good I suppose?!)

Anyway, our finances are in chaos, and any discussion of how things might be improved leads to long arguments that go nowhere. This has been going on for years, but has got worse recently. Today I am trying to work out how to feed DD until payday, which is ridiculous as DH is on a good salary. So the added drain on our finances caused by Relate's £65 a week fees is not helping matters.

I suggested to DH that we stop receiving counselling, simply because we cannot afford it. He agreed initially, but then said that he had discussed it with his Mum, who had offered to meet the cost of 10 sessions as a birthday present. There are lots of reasons why I think this is not a good idea - to begin with, it's just a miserable, depressing thing to receive for your birthday, isn't it? And then there's the fact that I think that the eventual outcome of the counselling will be separation. MIL certainly does not realise this - she things we are just having 'a few problems'. She is very traditional, strict Christian upbringing, etc, and this will come as a dreadful blow to her. Also, I don't want DH acting the martyr over the fact he has received such a present - I feel guilty enough.

But if I don't accept MIL's offer to pay, am I throwing away the chance to try to work on our marriage and make thing better for DD? H will certainly reproach me with this for years to come, especially if we do end up separating, and maybe he would be right to do so?

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LazyCake · 23/07/2016 19:08

My defective body parts are gonna make his (or her) day - oh yeah! Grin

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Wolpertinger · 23/07/2016 19:37

Grin It's an odd sort of job, I'll admit that Smile Think about it as there being scope for you to feel even better than you do now.

LazyCake · 23/07/2016 19:42

I've always though it must be an amazing job. Thanks for sharing your expertise with me. Right now I am feeling better than I have for years, so hopefully there is much to look forward to. Smile

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Arkengarthdale · 23/07/2016 19:56

Good luck LazyCake. I've read the whole thread over the last couple of days and really feel for you and your situation. The outcome is slightly different to your original post asking for advice about MIL paying for Relate Grin

You write very clearly and seem to have your head screwed on right. Best wishes for your future

LazyCake · 23/07/2016 21:34

Yes, Arkengarthdale, it has changed just a bit, hasn't it?

Thanks for your good wishes. Smile

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RandomMess · 23/07/2016 21:47

Well done, do NOT share this thread though!!!!

We're here for you for as long as it takes 😂

LazyCake · 23/07/2016 22:32

Thanks, Random. I really appreciate that.

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LazyCake · 25/07/2016 20:39

Update for anyone who has still got this thread popping up in their discussions list.

Yesterday, I received a reply from Women's Aid who said that I was clearly suffering domestic abuse and should contact their helpline which I did today. The woman I spoke to asked me a series of questions and concluded that the relationship was 'definitely unhealthy'. She thought it was concerning that my husband has been violent in a previous relationship and that I have fearful feelings about him, so she signposted me to the Women and Girls Network, who run a drop in locally to me. Apparently they will be able to offer me some legal advice, as well as advice on how to end the relationship amicably. The adviser from Women's Aid thought that leaving suddenly was not a good idea, as it might make a bad situation worse. She agreed with me that it's important to try and find a way to negotiate an end to the relationship, although she thought that it sounded as though DH's behaviour would be likely to escalate as we moved towards separation.

I also contacted NSPCC regarding my DH's casual attitude to DD's safety, etc. TBH, they couldn't get me off the phone quick enough - I felt like a bit of time waster, which was actually very reassuring as God knows I have not been enjoying the thought that DD may be an 'abused' or 'neglected' child. Anyway, they signposted me to Family Lives (previously known as ParentlinePlus). I had a productive discussion with one of their helpline workers, in which it was agreed it would be a good idea to set up another meeting with my HV so I can discuss these concerns, and seek advice. Also that it would be a good idea to bring some of these childcare issues to fore in the counselling I am receiving from Relate - assuming that continues.

Tomorrow I shall be making an appointment with a SHL, and carrying on with my plan to separate.

Once again, thanks everyone for your advice and support. Flowers

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NameChange30 · 25/07/2016 20:41

Thanks for the update, sounds like you've had some very useful and productive conversations! Keep up the good work Smile

Flisspaps · 25/07/2016 20:53
Flowers
RandomMess · 25/07/2016 20:54

Yep if relate continues - child care and financial issues only...

Well done you Wine

Dozer · 25/07/2016 21:28

You've done loads Brew

LazyCake · 25/07/2016 21:54

Thanks, everyone.

Have been feeling pretty stressed-out today, but I guess that's par for the course. I've come to the conclusion that there simply isn't a way out of this marriage that will not involve lots of tears, upset and recriminations. I have been trying to inch towards a separation, while at the same time constantly appeasing and placating DH, but I can see now that not's going to work.

I'll post again if anything dramatic happens, but I think the next six months or so are going to be about me quietly working away to get my ducks in order.

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RandomMess · 25/07/2016 22:03

How about you post more frequently so you have support in reminding you that he's gaslighting/being unreasonably and so on?

You're not on your own in this especially when it is going to take time and planning to secure the best scenario for you DD.

HelenaDove · 25/07/2016 23:34

Youve achieved loads in a short space of time Lazy Cake.

Well done to you Cake

Atenco · 26/07/2016 01:35

How about you post more frequently so you have support in reminding you that he's gaslighting/being unreasonably and so on

Sounds like a good idea

LazyCake · 28/07/2016 11:15

Thanks for your replies and the offer of ongoing support - greatly appreciated. However, I think I might hold off from posting more stuff here for a bit because it's taking a bit of time for me to process the advice I've had so far, IYSWIM? Am feeling a bit overwhelmed right now. Hope you understand.

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Atenco · 28/07/2016 11:37

Good luck, OP

ravenmum · 28/07/2016 14:19

Not surprising really! Take good care of yourself.

Memoires · 28/07/2016 14:48

Look after yourself, LazyCkae. We'll be here if you need us.

You sound so together, even though you think you're falling apart. Your dd is lucky to have you as her mum.

Dozer · 28/07/2016 16:19

You've been in touch with WA and they are there for you.

RandomMess · 28/07/2016 22:12

Not surprised it's overwhelmed you.

I think it's clear that you need support to live with the status quote whilst you get your ducks in a row, make decisions. I completely understand it will take as long as it does for you to be in the right place to end it because of who he is and potentially what he could do.

Post if you want to, hopefully others will understand 100% why you can't just walk out but need to play the longer game.

Flowers
overthehillandroundthemountain · 29/07/2016 10:47

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LazyCake · 30/07/2016 01:39

Thanks, everyone. You've all been so kind and generous with your time.

I'm sure I'll pop up in 'Relationships' a few more times before this mess is sorted out. I'm going to change my name as I've confided it to a few people in RL as a result of this thread, but if I do an update, I'll ref: 'LazyCake' so you can put two and two together.

overthehillandroundthemountain, sorry to hear you are feeling similarly stuck right now. I'll be thinking of you and wishing you well too. Flowers

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