I'm starting to hate men

[Mamaka]

I've noticed recently that I've become more and more anti men - I think since having my first child. So many factors that I could mention and probably many deep rooted issues contributing to this but the long and short of it is why do women have to suffer and sacrifice at every turn?!

I don't really want to feel like this. I have a son who I want to bring up/am bringing up to be a feminist but I'm worried about how my hateful feelings towards men are going to rub off on my dc.

I suppose I am asking if there is a way I can combat these feelings and start to feel more positively towards them.

Well, since men are usually taller, we could argue that tall people are statistically more likely to murder me, eh?

Uh oh!!

Voyage if the figures suggested that the driver was more likely to be someone you knew or loved, you may well start being more scared. If they were premeditated rather than accidents...

So pleased you find it all so funny. This attitude is why male abuse continues to be poorly dealt with by our legal system.

But you might well develop a fear of the drivers you could see and feel more threatened. Being afraid of a group known to perpetuate the largest proportion of crime against your own is not completely irrational or indeed "idiotic". You are still using the word hate here, not me.

Your mocking makes any claims to understand the background of why a woman might feel wary of men seem really insincere.

Yes, so if you are out and you see a rowdy group you can walk on and not get involved. If a woman is at home and surrounded by angry and/or aggressive men it is not as easy for her to walk on. The fact that you are more likely to be targeted by the exact same group show just how much of a problem the group itself are.

And again, if you think women WANT to be in fear of men you are on another planet. Victim blaming is not very constructive.

You are 6ft 3. Of course you don't feel vulnerable.

Try being 5ft 6, and wading through the morass of comments and looks a woman gets for her temerity of stepping outside her front door, and you would reevaluate your sense of vulnerability sharpish.

You sound smug. You seem to think you know how it feels to be me, and you believe it's ok to deem it wrong.

And you are still clinging to your false premise. Stating I am wary of men due to my history does not, and never has, equalled hating all men.

I'm 5 3 and I don't feel vulnerable around men.

Does my anecdotal evidence win the thread or does yours?

And in what situation would a woman be at home surrounded by angry men?

I would never blame a women for feeling wary of men, particularly if she has had bad experiences with them.

It's like someone who has been hit by a car being afraid to cross the road. Completely understandable. (Indeed, since you are much more likely to be killed by a car than murdered by a man, it is rational, in a way. )

What it wouldn't justify is an outpouring of rudeness, contempt and hatred for car drivers generally.

Several of the women posters on here I don't think are bigoted at all, they are just damaged by their experiences. But others are using their own prejudices to encourage these women to fear and dislike men.

Generally it doesn't matter if some women hate men, but if they are bringing up children it strikes me as being damaging not only to these children but to society as a whole.

'And in what situation would a woman be at home surrounded by angry men?'

Penelope of Ithaca?

Mythology is not my strong suit. Who was she?

Officially hate men ! Cheating sneaky abusive scum

Odysseus's wife, who has to wait 10 years for him to return from the Trojan wars. During his absence various suitors from the court claimed that he was dead and that she should take a new husband. She said she would do just that when she has finished a tapestry that she was working on, except that at night she unpicked everything that she had worked on during the day as she knew her husband would return one day. The various suitors form pretty impatient and irate. In fairness Homer makes a better story teller then me!

Interesting!

Yes, how does it end?