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Sick of miserable DP

153 replies

Justpulltheplaster · 11/06/2016 16:42

Back from a disaster of a night away. Where would you like to eat? Not bothered. Shall we go to X? Whatever you want. Even what music do you want to listen to is answered with 'I don't care you choose'

Barely cracked a smile all weekend. Wanted to go back to the hotel early so we did. He was asleep in ten minutes. It was the first night we've had alone in ages, in central London and he couldn't suggest one fucking thing he wanted to do, see or eat.

Driving home and his mate calls, suddenly he's animated, laughing and chatting. I snapped and asked what his problem is and he said 'nothing I've had a good weekend'

Well he might have but I didn't. Get home and he disappears to the gym the instant we walk in the door even though the kids are clamouring to see him.

I honestly think I'd be better off alone. At least I wouldn't have another child to make every bloody decision for.

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WhingyNinja · 19/06/2016 02:50

Sending you lots of Internet weirdo love and hugs, I'm sorry you're going through this right now but you WILL be okay, at least you don't have that depressing twat winding you up any more! Your DC will grow up knowing how strong their mother is, it's hard but it can only get better from now Smile also loving you scaring the local foxes!

ConkerTriumphant · 19/06/2016 03:02

Remember it's always darkest before the dawn. You know morning will come and it will feel easier. Allow yourself to have this moment but get ready to get back on your Fuck-You horse in the morning!

nicenewdusters · 19/06/2016 03:07

You asked what caused my relationship to fail. The details are very specific and massively outing but I'll try and outline what happened.

It basically involved an individual very close to him bullying, belittling and pulling away from an individual very close to me, over a long period of time. When it all came to light I endured an horrendous time, where some of those closest to me turned out to be totally duplicitous, liars and incredibly unkind.

When I turned to him for support he did the opposite. He was cold, dismissive, cruel and basically showed me a side that sickened me. We'd had a very good relationship, but some niggling doubts and compromises came to the fore.

Basically his position, as I saw it, was you're a woman, shut up and put up. It's happened, get over it, stop thinking about yourself. He said so many cruel and vile things that it destroyed my feelings for him. I spent a year trying to live with things, but in the end asked him to leave.

He couldn't understand why and still doesn't know why I don't want to be with him. That in itself is the answer. He's like a blank page. Everything is black and white, and ultimately he's an old-fashioned, sexist, immature man. He's massively influenced and damaged - in my opinion - by his very dysfunctional family. But hey, we all have a past, it's not a Get out Of Jail Free card.

It really was a bolt from the blue. It's affected many people and has made me question most of my relationships Some people have been wonderful, others so disappointing.

Good idea to write that list. I wrote down many of the things he said and did, as I couldn't get my head around them.

Justpulltheplaster · 19/06/2016 07:50

That sounds so hard and painful. My head hurts and he's coming to get DD in a min for "Father's Day" 😒.

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IronNeonClasp · 19/06/2016 08:48

I've just read your thread again and more recent updates Plaster and I'm so sorry you are going through this. But you will get through it. You may think it sounds weak and stuff but you honestly, from reading between the lines in your posts, sound incredibly strong. FlowersFlowersFlowers for you.

BrioLover · 19/06/2016 09:08

I guess he's been and gone now for DD - if you can try to catch up on some sleep today. Although I'd have been the same after the stalking (and would have done the same thing also, more to validate my suspicions).

The relationship before my husband failed because he wanted to sleep with other people but still have his good little girlfriend waiting for him. Some kind of idiotic power trip. Thankfully I found out and got rid. It was a long few months after though, trying not to feel inadequate and asking why I wasn't good enough. I realise now it wasn't me.

Justpulltheplaster · 19/06/2016 09:40

He's been. Had a huge row after he stood there asking me why I was being so horrible to him. He said i've not done anything, I don't know why you think I have. His face when I told him i'd seen his tinder messages was a picture.

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Justpulltheplaster · 19/06/2016 09:42

Then I got a text saying

Oh and thanks for the fathers day card! (obviously I hadn't got him one)

I sent this back.

Not my finest moment

Sick of miserable DP
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Purpledahlia88 · 19/06/2016 09:46

Justpull I have read the full thread, I have been through a horrific break up recently (last week!), we CAN get through this. I think the list of things you dislike about him is a good idea, I have done the same. I keep reminding myself this feeling is only temporary, and I wont always feel so low x

nicenewdusters · 19/06/2016 09:59

Morning Just. That's a rough start to your morning (understatement!) but I guess no surprise. Let's hope that's rubbed some of the shine off his Father's Day.

Don't let him minimise what he's done to you. Next it'll be he was only looking for other women because he's been so unhappy with you blah, blah, blah. That's not going to wash.

It shows what a strong person you are that you could face him today. I'm assuming you're not planning on keeping his dirty secrets for him. It'll be horrible to let other people know what he's been up to, but they should know, he should be shamed.

Hope your hangover isn't too bad. I haven't had such a late night for ages, but glad we were able to "sit together" last night, and thank you for your kind words this morning.

Off to see my lovely dad today. He's one of the good ones, so I know they do exist, my mum's very lucky.

Try and rest, even if you can't sleep.

nicenewdusters · 19/06/2016 10:04

On the contrary Just ! I believe that "card" will be one of your finest moments. What an absolute f*ing cheek to even mention it. Your dd is so young it's not even like she'd notice if he didn't have one. Good job you didn't give him a card, he'd need glasses up his arse to read it !

ricketytickety · 19/06/2016 10:10

Twat indeed. You deserve peace and freedom. Both will come, just ride out your emotions. You have to go through them: shock, grief, anger, vulnerability, shame, fear, guilt, all and more. Let them come and go. In time you'll create a new picture of what your life is and what your future will be. You're just changing tracks at the moment against your wishes and it all feels uncertain.

Elizabethreallyismissing · 19/06/2016 11:37

I love that card too! I'm full of admiration for you JUST! What a complete and utter twat he is.
At least you have the measure of him now you know what you're dealing with!
Hold your head high, I think you're fabulous & he'll realise that too! Idiot that he is!

Hillfarmer · 19/06/2016 16:12

Great card OP. You are fab.

Justpulltheplaster · 19/06/2016 16:45

Getting into the financial nastiness now.

Ex DP has spent the last two years bagging out ex DH for only paying the legal minimum child maintenance. He's done the calculation today (high earner) and its come back at more than ex DH pays for 3 kids. Probably because ex DH has them twice a week and earns much less than ex DP.

Got a text saying "if you think I'm paying you more money for 1 kid than X does for 3 you've got another thing coming"

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Justpulltheplaster · 19/06/2016 16:47

So this will be fun

I've asked him to transfer the direct debits over my to my bank for my phone (on his work contract), my car tax and a laptop he bought me as a birthday present (he took finance on it for some reason). So now I've got to pay the finance off on a gift Hmm

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NameChange30 · 19/06/2016 16:56

What a twat. I'm so sorry OP. But if it's any consolation I think you're dealing with it admirably. Excellent Father's Day card Grin

I'm guessing you know this already but in case not: if he refuses to pay the legal minimum in child maintenance just give CMO/CSA a call and get them to sort it.

And in addition to Income Support you can also get Child Tax Credits and probably Housing Benefit too.

Hang on in there. Being single will be better than being with this dickhead.

Hillfarmer · 19/06/2016 18:36

He's got it all worked out hasn't he?

1 kid. What a delightful way of referring to his beloved child.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 19/06/2016 18:47

Do not take on the finance for the gift!

nicenewdusters · 19/06/2016 19:25

Oh he's a peach, already looking at his finances and maintenance. Clearly not very clued up if he thinks it's you who gets to decide how much maintenance he pays. He's got a shock coming.

I'm with the pp who said you shouldn't have to pay the finance on a gift he bought for you. Perhaps the CAB could give advice to you on that one. Or local Trading Standards, they deal with consumer credit.

Remember he's smarting from the fact you've rumbled his Tinder hook ups. It doesn't make him look macho and hot, but sleazy and desperate. Deep down I guess even he knows that. He's going to try and save face, so threatening you financially will I'm sure be a part of that.

Let's hope he printed out the card and put it on the mantle piece. I reckon you could have a FB selling page with those, put me down for half a dozen !

lolo14 · 19/06/2016 19:43

What a wanker. Good bloody riddance, I'm sorry you're going through this. You've done nothing wrong, you took a leap of faith after your ex DH. You'll be fine, I'm a single parent and won't go near men. I'm so much happier as a human being :) My focus is earning enough so me and my daughter are comfortable and I don't have to rely on anyone else.

NameChange30 · 19/06/2016 20:00

Legally the OP doesn't have to pay for the laptop or the mobile phone contract. Morally and practically speaking it would make sense for her to pay for the phone, but only if they can transfer the contract into her name rather than his.

nicenewdusters · 20/06/2016 17:16

How are things today Just ?

tipsytrifle · 22/06/2016 00:27

Just as an aside ... a fox looking at you in the dark hours? How beautiful is that? A wild creature saw your pain and paused to ease you.

Fox as a spiritual symbol/power animal refers to intelligent intuition (yours) and guidance from beyond. Doesn't matter if you don't believe this stuff, this stuff believes in you and I thought you might find some comfort in it.

Justpulltheplaster · 22/06/2016 07:11

Im here.

I took myself off to stay in a hotel for the night, ex had DD.

We had a huge talk yesterday. I'd been doing some thinking after talking to my other lovely friend. She gave me some home truths that I hadn't really been thinking about. In reality I can see that we were horribly mismatched. She gently reminded me about some things which were very wrong with our relationship and I realised that although iM hurt, which I still am the relationship probably wouldn't have lasted the course to be honest.

I sat down with DP yesterday and had a really really long talk. I told him how hurt I was about everything, the tinder, the extra baby i've now got, that I felt that I was just a dumping ground for mens children whilst they went and got their life. But I realised through all the grief that maybe the one thing I wasn't missing was actually DP. We had a surface laugh togehter and rubbed along ok most of the time but we were a great love affair? no.

He apologised for all the things he had done since we split, that he was reacting to my anger and hurt. I don't forgive him but I feel like we're in a better place. We parted on ok terms yesterday. Had a cuddle and said goodbye. I still feel bereft this morning but a bit more peaceful.

Had a good night sleep last night so ready to face down the day today.

Sorry for typos, phone died in the hotel and I didn't bring my charger so typing on crappy chromebook.

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