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Kik - what's it all about

108 replies

MilkshakeMonkey · 25/05/2016 16:23

So, yesterday when needed a calculator quickly, I grabbed DH s iPhone and in my hurry swiped right and I saw on his recent used apps he had Kik.

I know nothing about Kik except it's some kind of message app, which I believe has had press for being used anonymously to flirt? (Please feel free to tell me I'm wrong)
We both use whatsapp to message (each other and friends) as phone reception is poor in our area and it uses wifi. So I'm a bit confused why he would have Kik as well? (And it's not been mentioned)

Anyway, I looked back later and it wasn't there (on recent or any icon). Does it have an icon normally?

So, does anyone know much about it?
(Before I get ear bashing about how I should just talk to him, I just need to get my head around it first if it is something I need to worry about)

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BBQsAreSooooOverrated · 27/05/2016 17:06

My dd uses it to message her friends so it may be innocent. Hope so.

Fellytone · 27/05/2016 19:15

I asked my husband outright and he admitted it straight away, sofa. So that's not necessarily true all the time.

The problem with gathering all this "evidence" is what happens if there is nothing to find? Op doesn't seem to have any reason to believe her DH is up to anything other than this app disappearing. I'm naturally suspicious of anyone having this app if they also have WhatsApp or similar. But that doesn't mean that there isn't an innocent explanation for it.

How are you doing now op?

Fellytone · 27/05/2016 19:16

Had to add, although I asked my H outright, I did already know what he had been up to. He might have realised that and that's why he was so upfront.

TondelayaDellaVentamiglia · 27/05/2016 19:26

I had Kik to message dd and dh, but would often get random creeps messaging random creepy things.

so it does have a reputation I'm afraid.

MilkshakeMonkey · 05/06/2016 11:09

Sorry I'm only just getting back to you all.

Have kept it to myself and done holiday. Was busy all the time so didn't really dwell on it.

I checked his apps account this morning, Kik was on there with another chat/meet app. Both had been deleted but previous downloaded. Unfortunately when I re installed the apps required usernames and passwords, so couldn't look any further.
I will take and stand back, watch and wait approach.

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Howmuchisthatdoggyinthewindow · 05/06/2016 11:24

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Gotheftosleep · 05/06/2016 12:08

Is his email connected to his phone? There may be username etc in there

troubledsoul12 · 05/06/2016 14:50

Just the fact he is uninstalling and reinstalling say it all xxx

troubledsoul12 · 05/06/2016 14:51

Says*

MilkshakeMonkey · 05/06/2016 17:19

I don't know that he does re install it, but he has had it and it's been deleted.

He keeps his emails very tidy, deletes most things after he's read them, I would be very surprised if he still has his welcome email.
I couldn't even use the forgot function as he would see the email. Although I could try when I have time when he has left his phone somewhere.

I have to wait because I don't want to out that I know something (for him to deny, minimise etc) and because if I am wrong I am wrongly accusing

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Lyndsaylou84 · 05/06/2016 17:40

Wow you're a better person then me! I'd go ballistic.

troubledsoul12 · 05/06/2016 17:42

I really hope it's all innocent and that there is a valid explanation.
It's hard when we come across things we don't expect and life is already hard enough .
I really really hope everything resolves and it has the best outcome for you

sherea · 05/06/2016 17:54

I use Kik, and the only thing I don't like about it is that when you log off or uninstall it, all the messages are automatically deleted and there's no way of getting them back.

So even if you do manage to log on to his kik, the only messages will be ones that have been received while he's been logged off, that he hasn't seen or replied to yet. There will be a list of people that he had been chatting to, unless he deleted the list himself before uninstalling, but none of the messages will be there.

FurryLittleTwerp · 05/06/2016 18:50

Kik & another chat/meet thing?

This doesn't sound good :-(

SandyY2K · 05/06/2016 20:19

He's most likely set up a secret email account for kik and the other meet up app. A cheater or someone hiding things would be stupid not to do that.

MilkshakeMonkey · 06/06/2016 10:18

Looks like he's stupid Sandy !
Just been on his email and found a email from Kik saying he's not been on lately (I guess cos we've been away, but don't know how long it classes as not been on lately)and his friends have been messaging him with 3 pics of girls Sad

It had his username so at least I have that now. But would have to reset password as I don't know it (tried his usual - didn't work)

Would it be stupid to instal it myself and get a feel for how it works, so when I confront him I know how folders etc work?
Have screenshot of email.

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IWILLgiveupsugar · 06/06/2016 10:34

If this was me I would tell him that I had found it and the pics. I would tell him to hand me his phone and tell me the log in details right there and then. If he refuses, then you know he is hiding something. You don't need to know more than that tbh - you will know that he is going outside of your marriage. Then you decide what you want to do.

It's worth checking skype and phone bills etc as well. Men are really fucking stupid sometimes and don't cover their tracks particularly well (at least not the first time). It's the height of arrogance really, the assumption that you'll never look or that they'll never be caught.

IWILLgiveupsugar · 06/06/2016 10:36

And don't let him give you any shit about invasion of privacy - hegave up any right to that when he started this behaviour.

SandyY2K · 06/06/2016 10:45

MSM

I heard about a woman who joined Ashley Madison to catch her DH and she ended up having an affair herself.

You could install it, but be sure he doesn't find out about it by creating a secret email account. Try and do some private journaling about why you are doing this so that if it comes out later, he can't accuse you of cheating.

You'll have clear evidence of why you did this.

Anyway.. your husband is obviously not a seasoned cheater or he'd have been smarter with the emails. It works in your favour.

I think those apps are addictive, but it's interesting to see how it works. I might install it myself.

Fellytone · 06/06/2016 10:51

Now you have his username I would try Googling it. If he's a stupid as my H and using it for dodgy purposes then he's more than likely posted his username on forums or the like to find people to message.

If you download kik yourself, are you planning on messaging him?

cheesecadet · 06/06/2016 10:58

Yes download it yourself and message him, catch him out.

MilkshakeMonkey · 07/06/2016 07:46

I've downloaded it created a fake profile with a new fake email account. I have found him searching his user name, but that's about it.

So how does it work? If I wanted to sext, as my fake person, how would I have come across him?

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Fellytone · 07/06/2016 08:54

Have you tried Googling his username? If it comes up on a site looking for people to message then obviously he won't be surprised with random people messaging him. I suppose if you message saying hi or whatever and he is only using it for work conversations then he'll be confused as to how you have his username and ask who you are I guess, so you might have your answer there.
I really do hope it's nothing. I know you don't want to alert him to you suspecting him, but are you absolutely certain that talking to him would be a bad idea? I only say that because if he's using it for innocent purposes and he finds out you've tried to trick him with the fake profile, would your relationship survive it?

If you feel comfortable doing it, feel free to pm his username and I can see if I can find him on one of the many forums that people put their usernames on. I've unfortunately amassed quite the knowledge of how this all works.

MilkshakeMonkey · 07/06/2016 09:12

I've googled it and I just get loads of random stuff (part of the user name is Russian - not that he is!!)

I know what you mean about if it is innocent, but it's not really looking that way is it? Oh and he has now permanently deleted the Kik email, but not others (innocent sale emails) - is this the actions of an innocent man?

He was also acting odd last night. He is working long hours at the moment but it seemed more than tiredness. I wonder if he know/thinks I'm on to him?

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Fellytone · 07/06/2016 11:30

When you Google, try to be really specific so put "username" "kik" and anything else you think he might have put.

You're right, it doesn't sound good. I will keep my fingers crossed that there is an innocent explanation though. If it does turn out to be bad, don't do what I did and spend months blaming yourself and thinking there's something wrong with you. There isn't and it's not your fault.

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