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DH is trying to get me pregnant against my wishes

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MrsHenryWinter · 13/05/2016 08:02

I can't actually believe I'm writing this, it feels like a soap storyline.

I think DH is messing with our birth control after we decided not to try for anymore children.

For background, he always wanted children, I was never very bothered either way. He recently decided to go for a vasectomy and I supported his decision. Just before the appointment he decided that he wanted one more child, although I do not want anymore children. The vasectomy was cancelled so that we had more time to talk through our options.

We talked about this endlessly and I remained adamant that I didn't want more children. There were lots of tears and we finally decided to wait a year and see how we felt then.

TMI Alert!

Back to last night: we were having sex and he tried to enter me without a condom. I pushed him off and he said sorry and got a condom. I think he put it on (it was dark) but afterwards I was very wet and asked if he'd come inside me. He got a bit huffy and said no but then got up and took the 'evidence' with him. I'm 99% certain he ejaculated inside me without my permission.

I don't know what to feel about this. Apart from going to get the morning after pill with 2 young children in tow, I'm at a loss as to what to do next.

I just feel numb.

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magoria · 17/05/2016 09:56

OP please don't take this the wrong way.

Can you not see how fucked up mentally this man has made you that you are taking the Map and pregnancy supplements 'in case'.

He has you so you don't know which way is up or down.

VioletSunshine · 17/05/2016 10:02

To be honest, with Internet diagnoses there's a risk one could think "well this fits, and this is how to make him better". But there is no making him better. It may be helpful for advice on how to handle certain behaviours, but that's it really.

MrsHW, how are your stress levels currently? AF may be off schedule a bit with you having taken the MAP, but increased feelings of stress may also make it a bit later. If that happens, don't jump to worst case scenario and try to keep as calm and relaxed as possible :) which it sounds like you're already being despite all you have going on.

MusicIsMedicine · 17/05/2016 10:04

It was actually learning about sociopathic/psychopathic/narcissism elements that helped myself (and others) finally understand that the abuse wasn't my fault and nothing I could do would change it and helped me to gain insight and to get out finally.

There's some groundbreaking new work being done on functional psychopaths in relationships.

MrsH previously said she had been reading up and found that reading useful, hence the suggestions on further reading.

It really is key for victims of abuse to realise it isn't their fault, they didn't cause it, they can't control it and we can't change another - but we can escape the abuser eventually with the right support.

MrsH, you are doing so well. Don't resign yourself to this life. Flowers

MrsHenryWinter · 17/05/2016 10:04

I'm doing it because if I do get pregnant then I still have a responsibility to look after that life. I don't know how I'll feel about an abortion, I can't predict that.

The last thing I need is a child that I didn't want with additional needs that could have been prevented.

I'm trying to manage a horrible situation as best I can. I assume that the MAP will work as will the coil but just in case I have to stay healthy. It's fucked up yes.

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fizzyrubbish · 17/05/2016 10:05

Mudlotus - I completely agree re labelling actually but the grey stone rock link is helpful both for MrsHW and anyone else reading who may have similar difficulties.

It's absolutely not her fault and neither do I want to validate the idea that her behaviour is to blame - it isn't BUT given that she isn't going to pack a bag and go, it's just a very useful way of taking a little bit of power back in a non-confrontational fashion.

I said previously that I didn't go to WA. After escaping one controlling relationship I found myself in another, though nowhere near as extreme. Unsurprisingly, I needed therapy for self-esteem issues.

In RL I am quite a quiet and private person. Suddenly unbuttoning or going to WA is a huge step. MrsHW needs to digest everything but identifying that there is problem and then the nature of it, is halfway to solving it.

MrsHenryWinter · 17/05/2016 10:09

I'm incredibly stressed right now! I'm so anxious that I feel sick.That's one reason why I don't want to start another thread right away.

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MusicIsMedicine · 17/05/2016 10:10

Agreed Fizzy.

When an abuser swings between being 'nice' and then 'abusive' it can be very confusing and the victim often believes they are to blame for their abuse.

Understanding matters a bit better was very empowering for me and lead to the lightbulb moment that it would never change, I couldn't fix him and he had deeper issues than I'd ever understood or been aware of.

Everything that increases insight and awareness of the abuser's behaviour can assist with making informed decisions about how to proceed.

fizzyrubbish · 17/05/2016 10:12

One step at a time. IF you are pregnant, the decision is yours and yours alone.

There are plenty of options which could include keeping the baby and still being able to study. Seriously. Flowers

When I found out I was pg, I had been on a series of massive benders. Never took any pregnancy supplements, as I was too sick.

My GP reminded me that perfectly babies can be born to heroin addicts. If you are eating healthily chances are any baby would be fine. But don't think about that yet. xx

DoinItFine · 17/05/2016 10:13

Pregnancy supplements make no difference to anything.in a healthy, well nourished woman.

Taking them is an emotional investment in a baby you claim not to want.

MrsHenryWinter · 17/05/2016 10:19

Folic acid is important in preventing neural tube defects and is difficult to get through food alone. Especially as I don't eat cereals.

I claim it because it's true. But thanks for your passive aggressive response.

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MrsHenryWinter · 17/05/2016 10:22

I found out I was pregnant with DC2 after 2 weeks of all inclusive cocktails so I'm not too neurotic Grin

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thelittleredhen · 17/05/2016 10:24

MrsHW - Can I please draw your attention to the Relationship's sticky thread:

"I shall say this only once.

Actually, no I won't, I will keep repeating it until the message gets through.

Every person deserves to have a relationship where they are treated with respect, love and equality.

There is never an excuse for verbal, physical or financial abuse.

If you partner treats you like shit, it is their fault. It is not because of something you have done.

You can't change an abusive man by being 'better' or sticking by him where others haven't, or by changing yourself.

Most people have happy relationships, where disagreements happen and are resolved without resorting to shouting, name calling or violence or screwing someone else.

Most people's partners are happy for them to pursue their own friendships and interests, work and education, have access to money, make decisions.

Most people in a relationship stay faithful. They don't have affairs or cyber-sex or obsessively wank over porn day and night.

Don't be fooled into thinking that dysfunctional relationships are the norm. There are many of them on here, but then people don't tend to ask for advice on healthy relationships, so we hear less about them.

Relationships are not supposed to be hard work, that is a big fat myth. Yes, you should work at your relationship but that is not the same thing at all.

Nobody should live their life in fear of angering their partner, or skirting round issues that might upset him. Or put up with cheating and lying for fear of rocking the boat.

Nobody should 'stay together for the children', or because of your marriage vows. If your husband treats you badly, he has broken the vows. Children are much much happier being brought up by parents who live apart than in an atmosphere of fear and loathing.

Just because you've escaped a level 10 bastard, doesn't mean you should settle for the level 8 one that comes along. The only acceptable level of abuse is none.

Just because all your friends are in bad relationships, doesn't mean that you have to be.

I really want to debunk the myth that all men are bastards. They simply aren't. If you feel that all the men you meet are, it's because you are unconsciously sending out vibes to these men. They can spot a target a mile off.

Be on your own. It is much easier than sticking by a tosser. If you have been in more than one abusive relationship, seek some counselling, you may be co-dependant, or you may be modelling relationships on a warped template, perhaps from childhood.

If he abuses you, he is not a good father. Good fathers don't treat the mother of their children with disrespect.

It doesn't matter how much he says sorry and makes it up to you, if he continues to abuse you those apologies are worthless.

Don't be fooled into thinking the abuse isn't 'bad enough to leave'. If you are treated in any way less than cherished, loved and respected, it is bad enough to leave.

There is never a reason to stay with an abusive man. He won't kill himself if you leave him, he won't take your children, and yes, everybody will believe you.

I probably have loads more to say on the subject but I will leave it there for now.

Much love to everybody."

Please, take heed of those words.

MusicIsMedicine · 17/05/2016 10:25

There's plenty of folic acid in any decent, well balanced diet.

happytoday6 · 17/05/2016 10:25

Good God everyone please back off a bit and give her a break! Stop shouting at Mrs HW and she will work this all out for herself....... Some seeds have been sown ...... Support is here if needed .

fizzyrubbish · 17/05/2016 10:27

Heh! Me too MrsHW Grin ok taking supplements a good idea then.

Just remember that you have loads of options but with the MAP & the coil it's massively unlikely, anyway.

Hope your GP appointment goes well today.

MrsHenryWinter · 17/05/2016 10:36

I don't necessarily have a diet containing lots of folic acid. DH doesn't allow bread, rice, cereals or flour. I'm fat and on a diet.

Thank you for that littlered.

I know it's highly unlikely I'm just so worried because we've always conceived so quickly. I'm terrified quite frankly.

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MusicIsMedicine · 17/05/2016 10:39

So sorry for you MrsH.

Spinach, carrots, nuts, seeds, etc are good sources.

Hope you get a coil fitted today.

I can't believe you can't even eat bread. He should have no say in what you do or don't eat, or your weight.

CactusTeeth · 17/05/2016 10:42

This is one of the most chilling threads I've ever seen on here. OP please read the advice, you've been brain washed.

MrsHenryWinter · 17/05/2016 10:43

Before the thread is full, I want to say an extra thank you to all of you who have sent me PMs. I'm not feeling up to responding to them I'm afraid, makes it all too real, but I appreciate them none the less.

Flowers to you all.

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fizzyrubbish · 17/05/2016 10:46

I just knew that bread, rice, cereals and flour would be off limits when you mentioned folic acid Sad

Here. Have a virtual Cake Cake CakeChocolateChocolateWineWine from all of us. xxxxx

TwoLeftSocks · 17/05/2016 10:46

Just before the thread is full...

www.womensaid.org.uk/

0808 2000 247

Take care Flowers

thelittleredhen · 17/05/2016 10:48

Don't be terrified, you'll have to cross that bridge when you get to it. Right now concentrate on taking off those rose tinted glasses.

chansondumatin · 17/05/2016 10:48

Good luck today OP. Coil fittings aren't exactly fun so hope you can have a treat of some sort afterwards, or do something nice.
Remember you are very precious and important - what you want and feel matters. Flowers

PurpleDaisies · 17/05/2016 10:48

Good luck with everything op. Just remember you do have options if and when you're ready.

needastrongone · 17/05/2016 11:06

Good luck OP. There's lots to take in. We are thinking of you xx

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