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Financial Abuse - AlmostFreeMo - Part 4

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AlmostFreeMo · 26/04/2016 06:51

Next Fred...

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wallywobbles · 04/05/2016 05:34

Mo download a bit of hubspot software that shows you when each email was opened and how many times. It's genius stuff.

Smurfling43 · 04/05/2016 08:10

Good luck with your meeting today Mo ( have posted before but nc )Flowers

Roseformeplease · 04/05/2016 10:16

Go Mo!

Grumpyoldblonde · 04/05/2016 12:02

Good luck Mo, hope the meeting is productive. Not in the least surprised by his latest email, he is still clinging on to his control, like a man hanging onto the cliff ledge by his fingernails isn't he (and one last push Smile)

AlmostFreeMo · 04/05/2016 13:57

Meeting went well.
Whilst it's fresh in my mind:
She confirmed that what the police officer told me was bollocks and that if I want I could go to a more senior or more experienced or specialised police officer who is more clued up on these sorts of matters and indeed the law itself. I knew that, you guys knew that...but when an officer is sitting opposite you telling you there is nothing they can do at a vulnerable time like this, you believe them. So I will bear that in mind.
She also didn't have a very high opinion of the NCDV who I spoke to last week. Didn't go into details but she said I'd be better off going to the police than them.
She put my mind at rest that if (by some miracle) he agrees to attend a session with me when he's back (yes, she said face to face is best if I can wait that long which I don't know if I can), as it's her job to remain impartial and to put the children's best interests first in our case, if he does start to intimidate me, she would step in and tell him it's not acceptable. She also said she'd be able to explain to him what his parental responsibilities are by way of providing legal information, and not in the form of advice or her opinion - which mediation is definitely not about.
But I'm skeptical anyway that we will ever get that far. If he fails to respond to her, she'll sign off the paperwork so I can go start court proceedings. So as far as I see it, whichever way he chooses to go, cooperate or not, his time is up and he has to start taking proper responsibility for his children. And if he chooses to fight that, he won't win, under any circumstances.
I'll wait and see what happens with this first and then I'll take it from there.

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Roseformeplease · 04/05/2016 14:47

She sounds like someone who is on your side.

What are your next steps? Is she going to contact him to ask him to do something and then allow you to take him to court?

Hope you feel better and more in control with every day!

AlmostFreeMo · 04/05/2016 14:52

She's not meant to be on my side so to speak but it must be very hard when you can clearly see one side as the victim and the other as the perpetrator.
Anyhow, yes, she will have a few attempts at contacting him and if he ignores or replies that he's not interested in mediation, she can sort the paperwork for me.
The drum is rolling.

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Atenco · 04/05/2016 14:53

Now, the question is, where do you find a "more senior or more experienced or specialised police officer"?

AlmostFreeMo · 04/05/2016 14:54

Sorry I correction, she didn't say go to the police rather than the NCDV, she said go to a legal aid solicitor instead.

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Akire · 04/05/2016 15:09

Hi Mo glad she was helpful, it's crazy it takes so many people to get decent advice. Even with us on here what 20 (?) resonable intelligent adults putting in money's worth and what research we can do; you still end up with professionals giving you conflicting information. No wonder poor person trying to do it all on their own had such problems getting out.

Would be fantastic if you did qualify for legal aid though. Let's hope mediation lady gets the blank from him. Ideally for him he'd agree to face to face to lengthen it out but as of yesterday still refusing you have split up so not going accept this- which be win win for him!

Joysmum · 04/05/2016 15:53

That's sounds like s very positive meeting.

No, she's not on 'your' side. She's on the side of the law and your kids. As you and your kids are victims, she's there to ensure your rights are help and his responsibilities and the law is spelt out to him.

Tbh, I think even when that happens, he'll still believe he's the one that's hard done by and his view of reality is right.

OrlandaFuriosa · 04/05/2016 17:46

Glad it went well. Well done. Star

Think what a long way you have come.

Now you have a bit if breathing space. Make a list of things to do, with a list of fun things included. . There could be a long tussle ahead and IME it's important to have a tussle/life balance. Esp with kids.

mix56 · 04/05/2016 18:04

Thats good that she re-negged the legal aid advise.
I expect that she will contact him & he will say, "meh......If it is really necessary, I am overseas & won't be back for X months, so it will have to wait till I'm home. I am anticipating this little hissy fit to pass over, she is feeling a little pressure as I am away/she is hormonal.........." Tosser.
Could she do it by Skype if necessary ? with you either in the office & him on Skype, or all on Skype ?
You can't drag this out till the summer

rumblingDMexploitingbstds · 04/05/2016 19:03

So pleased she gave you some more leads for reporting this, the police officer's response to you was very poor.

BoatyMcBoat · 04/05/2016 19:17

Good. She sounds like she knows her stuff and isn't going to let him pull any stupid stunts. Now to find a good legal aid family law solicitor.

Looking up Mo. You've been brilliant, and will see that TwatChops off!

RandomMess · 04/05/2016 20:27

Flowers well done Mo

AlmostFreeMo · 04/05/2016 22:45

Wobble alert.

I'm feeling really sad after just a brief exchange with someone of mutual importance to both of us. They know both sides of the story, but particularly more mine recently however as we've talked about it, however I know they met recently with ex-P and they've just shut down all potential conversations about what's going on by saying they can no longer enter into any more discussions about it. There is nothing wrong with that, had we not discussed anything previously, but it just makes me think he's told them something that's made them think differently about me and the situation.

I'm not sure obviously and I respect this person for being honest and trying to remain impartial...however it just feels like that's their way of saying whose side they are really on. I thought they would remain a bit more open with me as they have before but a total shut down all of a sudden is a bit suggestive. Or maybe I'm overthinking it. Or maybe I should just let it go.

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OrlandaFuriosa · 04/05/2016 22:53

If they want to remain friends with you both, they will do exactly the same to him. I would. But it's a shame. Flowers it honestly, though, doesn't mean they don't believe you, just that there are two sides to every story and they don't want to get drawn in.

The problem with what he has done to you is that one swings between feeling " am I mad" to " kill the bastard" to " everyone who doesn't agree with me agrees with him" , it becomes very black and white. And esp if it is messy, sometimes people do have to choose between partners, which to keep as a friend. It isn't always as simple as one being right or not, it may go back to length of friendship or whatever. But it sounds as though they are really trying to remain out of it.

RandomMess · 04/05/2016 22:54

You know it is very sad, and I think you may be surprised at which friends behave in what ways.

I think you have to accept that Ex-P's version could be very very untruthful/distorted.

Flowers
OrlandaFuriosa · 04/05/2016 22:55

I agree with random. .

Akire · 04/05/2016 23:01

Aw that sounds tough, it's one thing not taking sides but if they are really both friends then I would expect to listen when I needed even if they had to remain objective. Saying can't talk at all is abit much especially when you In middle of crisis.

Sadly you may have to kiss them good bye but times like this you see who your friends are xx

Akire · 04/05/2016 23:03

Hopefully you feel got some new friends here too and we are all just fabulous! Even better we all here 100% for you x

BoatyMcBoat · 04/05/2016 23:04

Yes, I'm sorry your friend's reacted like that. I've tried hanging on to both people as friends, being impartial after they've split up, but it's really, really hard, especially if one side has no scruples. It does work out in the end, though, and you will find some surprising people sticking to you to offset any you lose.

Be strong, Mo, you know the truth and it will come out.

Dollytwat · 04/05/2016 23:31

Sadly you might find you lose a few friends, or they might just step back from both of you.

It might be worth a conversation with them saying you understand completely. Just to make you feel better about it.

You don't need wishy washy friends right now, you need friends who are behind you. It's just the way it is. When it's all done and dusted you'll have room for aquantancies and social friends.

AmIbeingTreasonable · 05/05/2016 00:44

This will be the time when you truly find out who your friends are. Be very very careful around any mutual friends or family as you never know which of them might relay things you say to them back to him.
But on the upside you are doing so well and your future WILL BE BRIGHT Grin