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FreeMo - Part 3

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AngryMo · 29/03/2016 13:54

New Fred Grin

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/04/2016 14:50

Does he know about the child maintenance arrangements yet? You know that he will have to pay £x per month in real money and will have no rights to know what it has been spent on and he will have to pay it until the children are grown and even when you get a job. He might not realise that yet. Obviously it will be a major problem for Mr Financial Abuse.

Do you think you might accidentally spit it out at him in the middle of a row when he has driven you to the edge alone together in the house? Might it be better to make sure he knows about it while far away so he has time to calm down a bit? Safety first.

notonyurjellybellynelly · 20/04/2016 15:19

Its obvious you are so ready to do this. Smile

mix56 · 20/04/2016 15:39

I'm not sure I would give him any info, he will find out soon enough that his benevolence has been allowing you to live on the poverty line by the shocked look on his solicitors face.

Akire · 20/04/2016 16:28

Well done - think this sets tone of his visit very nicely! Make sure you don't do his washing or anything else either. Wash your stuff and kids not his.

BoatyMcBoat · 20/04/2016 17:18

He's not an idiot. He can find out about child maintenance all by himself, if he can be bothered (or tell his secretary to find out for him). You don't have to tell him anything about it beyond what you already have.

He certainly appears to think that by ignoring everything you have said to him, and that as he has spoken (saying he didn't want to separate - ages ago it feels like) he can now just steamroller over you and you will fall into line.

I think he's probably a little confused, tbh, as the steamrollering hasn't worked yet. He is thinking that it hasn't worked because he's having to do it by email and that as soon as he sees you, you'll remember your place and drop into his manly arms, making googly eyes, offer to mix him a cocktail and serve his favourite dinner. In his little fantasy, you will be in full-on appeasement mode, begging forgiveness for your sins, which he will magnanimously grant after you have bestowed sexual favours.

mix56 · 20/04/2016 17:33

Boaty, that makes my skin crawl.
Mo, He may be completely furious when he gets home. if he starts yelling. Breath deeply, say you will not have this behaviour in front of the children. & WALK away.
His prime aim will be to corner you & talk at you until you are a gibbering wreck.
Cut him Short

Clutterbugsmum · 20/04/2016 18:41

I'd text back on said time limit NO and leave it at that.

He asked if you WANTED TOO PICK HIM UP and you don't want too so no reason to add any extra detail.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/04/2016 19:26

Mix is right, you need a way to avoid being cornered and verbally mashed.

DollyTwat · 20/04/2016 21:51

Mo I think he's just going to act the same way he's always acted, like you're still his partner etc

So, I think you are going to have to really be conscious of the way you are I.e don't slip back into doing the things you usually do for him. He's really a guest in your house, a lodger who is related to the kids

It's going to be tricky, but maybe think of him as a live in nanny so when he's supposed to be taking care of the dc then you get to do what you want?

OrlandaFuriosa · 21/04/2016 01:28

Yup. You have now nothing but a professional connection with him. There is no point wasting emotion or energy or blood pressure on him.

I think he was testing the water with that will you be my taxi question. Would you

Pretend not to see it
Be abusive (fall into a trap)
Be normal in his terms ie compliant and if so what would that mean
Respond in a different way, as you have,.

If you can manage to keep him at a distance and not conform to his stereotype, you will remain on the front foot,

Well done, gel, GoMo

Bogeyface · 21/04/2016 20:42

You ok mo?

I get a bit concerned when you havent been around for a while. Flowers

gladistopped · 21/04/2016 21:33

You ok, Mo? Just wondering if all is ok?

AngryMo · 21/04/2016 21:40

He came home today. I'm fine, but mentally drained so will update tomorrow or later when I have more energy. Just need to have some down time.
Thank you for asking xx

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DollyTwat · 21/04/2016 21:44

Keep your chin up Mo. We're all here for you

FusionChefGeoff · 21/04/2016 21:50

Hi Mo - you can do this. Stay strong. Rest, recover and face tomorrow as it comes. We are all here for you and know you are right.

I can't believe how far you have come - and you've got what it takes to get through this.

Go mo Thanks

velocitygir1 · 21/04/2016 22:06

Mo you are doing so well, you are an inspiration!!!

Don't let the git get to you...you can do this...you have been doing it.

I hope tonight isn't a rough one and you can finally breathe.

Cantthinkofafunnyname · 21/04/2016 22:09

Go Mo.

Remember we're all here for you.

Thanks
Akire · 21/04/2016 22:10

You must be mentally shattered, make sure you are eating and getting as much rest as you can. X

RandomMess · 21/04/2016 22:14

You have survived the first face to face encounter Flowers

notapizzaeater · 21/04/2016 23:29

Remember each minute is a step nearer the goal

Joysmum · 21/04/2016 23:45

Best of luck. How long is he back for? If you need some strength then post and somebody will always be here for you Flowers

Bogeyface · 22/04/2016 00:29

thank you for checking in, we do so worry about you.

Keep the faith my love, you know that you can do this xxx

Bogeyface · 22/04/2016 00:30

And for those moments when you think "I cant do this", WE know that you CAN DO THIS!!!!

AngryMo · 22/04/2016 06:05

This is what happened yesterday.

I left my youngest with a friend in the morning so that when he turned up, it would just be the two of us.
He turned up, took his stuff upstairs, no comment about the bedroom obviously cleared of all my stuff.
He came down and he wanted to talk about his recent bereavement so I let him talk and then when he went to change subject, about something completely irrelevant, I had to stop him and say we had more important things to discuss. At this point I recorded the conversation on my phone.

In summary:

  • he's not going to attend mediation 'at this point' and even when I said well I'm going ahead with mine, he just said you do what you like but anything like that will have to wait till he's back in the UK in the summer because he's 'too busy'. So he's too busy to prioritise stopping losing his family? I told him that.
  • he said to my face again "we're not separated" and he just finds this whole thing a bit odd and doesn't know where I'm going with things and doesn't know where it's all come from
  • he is still insisting I go out and work one night a week at the restaurant he mentioned months ago, with a combination of free childcare he says is available including my parents when they come to stay - for the record, my parents would rather give me the money than force me to do that
  • he refused to tell me what he earns and said it's his business
  • he is still insisting I show him the receipts for the uniform I bought with borrowed money (I won't)
  • he thinks because he's out of the country nothing can be enforced anyway (wrong! - didn't tell him that obviously)
  • he still insists his paltry budget is enough even though I've pointed out if it were, I wouldn't need to keep asking him for extras. He denied refusing me money forgetting I have emails to the contrary.

Basically we didn't talk about anything we hadn't already talked about in emails, there was no aggression or physical intimidation, I had to walk out and leave the house because the conversation was clearly leading nowhere. I am definitely sending off those forms today.

But one thing made me laugh: after I left, he asked me if I was going shopping, because the fridge and cupboards were looking very bare. I just said no, what do you mean? I went the day before. And he said he didn't expect to come home to an empty fridge. I said well that's the budget, that's the food...and since when did I have money to stock up on food for him? And since when did ex partners do that for each other.

There is only one way to go with this, sadly. Now to start funding my legal battle.

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wallywobbles · 22/04/2016 06:35

Well done Mo. Keep it low drama if you can. Better for you. Have some stock phrases ready. I suspect it's going to feel anti climatic.

He's had his chance now to move things forward.

Have your plan ready and big girl pants hoiked.

As for the working in a pub. Just say that won't be happening and it's not available for discussion and is no longer his business.

Good luck.

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