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Why do some men who leave for OW treat their exes with such contempt?

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ChooChooLaverne · 25/02/2016 10:26

Just wondering about this as it's happened to a couple of my friends recently and I really can't understand what goes through their minds. Wonder if anyone can enlighten me.
*Disclaimer: obviously I'm only talking about some men here.

So the scenario goes something like this:
Couple have been together/married for a long time and have children. Woman is plodding along in the relationship unaware that anything is wrong. Man suddenly starts acting horribly, picking fault with the woman and comes out with the "I'm unhappy/not sure what I want" speech. Woman bends over backwards trying to sort things out only at some point later down the line to discover there is another woman.
Relationship ends and man becomes completely unreasonable about sorting out finances and childcare. Tries to get the woman out of the marital home, seemingly aggrieved that he is having to pay money to her (even though it's for the children), makes unreasonable demands about wanting/not wanting to have the children, and he talks to her in a way that is disrespectful and downright callous and lacking in empathy.

What prompts someone to behave like this? I get that he might paint her in a bad light to excuse himself for cheating on her - but I don't understand how he doesn't feel some sympathy for how she might feel and I really can't understand the level of contempt.

Can anyone explain this to me?

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hurtandconfued2016 · 25/02/2016 23:04

Mrsc I have a lot of family support right now. My sister is coming to my section on Tuesday as ex can't stand to be near me apparently! I am also in the process of getting a councillor As I've not been dealing well with it. As for him all him and his family are interested in is emptying the house we bought together. Not when he can see our son or anything like that! She is Scum and one day he will treat her the same way he treated me I just hope they don't bring more children that he is unable to look after into the world!

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iPost · 25/02/2016 23:04

My ex also told me 3 days after he left "you need to move on" hang on there pal I'm heavily pregnant and too busy looking after our son cause you can't!

See, it's shit like this that has made me hate the expression "move on" with a passion.

It has become a glib, get out of jail free card for the hurtful of the world. Not content with creating a Life Tsunami that somebody else gets to whirl around in, they decide they also want to dictate "warp speed 9" recovery times, so they don't have to look at the wreckage they caused. In case their poor, little, put upon arse has to clench in shame.

When I am Queen of the Universe anybody caught muttering "move on" without a licence (to practice as a psychologist) will be punished severly. Let's see how quick smart they "move on" from that.

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hurtandconfued2016 · 25/02/2016 23:08

Haha I have been told on many occasions including tonight by his family too I need to move on! I have his daughter on Tuesday! How the hell can I move on? I mean it was easy for him but I ain't a cheating lying scumbag!
If you would like another laugh/shock he also said he only.got me pregnant to make me think he loved me! So he isn't just telling me to move on he is also.saying the little girl we made in a moment of love isn't actually what I thought

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TheFormidableMrsC · 25/02/2016 23:11

Hurt, I really hope you've sought some legal advice, particularly as there are children and property involved. You have lot to deal with, baby coming on Tuesday (huge congratulations on that, how wonderful for you), concentrate on that at the moment. Do not let anybody take anything from your house. I am so glad to hear you have some support. He is an utter lowlife wanker treating you like this. You and your DC's deserve so much better Flowers.

iPost - never a truer word...the fuckwittery of it...Angry. The problem is, they did their "moving on" months and months before you even realise that anything is wrong. Thus, they expect you to catch up immediately and congratulate them and wish them well. Yawn.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 25/02/2016 23:12

Hurt, that poor little girl, thank God she has you Flowers.

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dilys4trevor · 25/02/2016 23:15

She's a lucky little girl in many ways. She has a mum who loves her and who made her (for her part) out of love. She will be fine. As long as each child has at least one parent (or carer) who loves them
with all their heart they will be ok. hurt, Thanksto you.

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hurtandconfued2016 · 25/02/2016 23:16

Yes I have I need to call tomorrow again as he has given the house key to his parents who are going up and clearing out stuff! Also with the children I have tried to organise contact with their father with no response as he wants me to.organise it thru his parents and only wants them on the days he is working because he "needs to have a life" I have been waiting nearly 2 weeks for a response from his lawyers and still not had anything!

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hurtandconfued2016 · 25/02/2016 23:18

My daughter will have so much love from my family I mean she already does! Just angers me if you want someone to thin you love them you buy them flowers or a ring or something like that not bring a life into the world you don't want!

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TheFormidableMrsC · 25/02/2016 23:27

hurt...please please make it quite clear to his parents it is a legal situation that they are not to remove anything. His personal possessions or things he needs for day to day is one thing...anything else is part of the financial proceedings. HE can organise a contact centre if necessary. Tell the parents to stay the fuck out of it. It is NOT up to you to organise, it is up to HIM. You are going to have your hands full with a newborn. Fuck him and his "needs a life"...amazing that...mine said the exact same words. I trust lawyers are aware that you are having a section on Tuesday...if not, ring them tomorrow and make them aware.

He is a selfish selfish man and Dilys is right...

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Oasis888 · 25/02/2016 23:32

Sorry, haven't read all the posts but just wanted to say my ex-h cheated on me whilst I was pregnant. I found out and left. That is exactly why I always say if anyone knows someone who is having an affair, tell the unknowing wife (or husband) so they can choose what to do, not have that awful suspicion or give their cheating partner time to exit at their leisure.

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 26/02/2016 01:45
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stopfuckingshoutingatme · 26/02/2016 07:07

6 weeks Shock oh god Dilys - that's just so raw. It's critical to have a good therapist that you can gel with. I have a very good one - we actually do it on the phone and she is experienced with abuse. Will pm details if you like .

And for everyone Flowers

I just have to say this behaviour the men's is not the behaviour of a normal healthy human being . I know that's hard to swallow when you spent 20 happy (ish) years raising your babies . You must think if they were such a Fucking sociopath why didn't I notice it sooner !
But the ability to shit on people , transfer blame and neglect your children is not that of a normal healthy human being .

There is a world of pain on this thread -and I hope everyone takes steps forward

Inhuman - sociopaths


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dilys4trevor · 26/02/2016 07:12

stop, yes please on the PMing therapist details.

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brittanyfairies · 26/02/2016 07:57

Such sad stories from everyone - I'd like to just add, my XH left four years ago and I have managed to move on - in fact I've never been happier. I recount my stories these days as in a, you'd never believe what my XH did... normally over a coffee with friends etc.

What he did to me made me strong and this month I start a new job, in an entirely different field to where I worked in the UK, I did all my interviews in French and I beat 110 people to get the job. If I'd still been the sad little mouse I was when I was married to him I'd never have tried. But when he left and did what he did I thought Fuck you, I'll show you, and I have.

I've had amazing support the last four years from my brilliant family and friends and they have been amazing. They've taken me on holiday, they look out for me and the DCs, they've been fabulous. Looking at XH's ranty emails to me (because every six weeks or so I get an email where he goes off on one) he's really jealous of my life. He makes little digs about improvements I've made to my house, my holidays, my car, I love it when he does this, it gives me an insight into how shit his life is that he has to be jealous of me. His mad ranting emails give me great satisfaction.

How his life has gone...well he's still with the OW and they play happy families, she's ill a lot and he has to nurse her and look after her youngest DC (things he never did for me or our DCs) but he likes the adulation he gets from other people telling him what a wonderful guy he is for stepping up and doing that. She has no idea that once this stops, he'll stop doing it. He needs this adulation, he needs people to tell him what a great step-dad he is, it's his oxygen. They lurch from one crisis or drama to another, they both seem to enjoy that kind of life. It's not for me, he gave me enough drama when I was fighting to feed my DCs and stop my house being repossessed to pay off his debts.

However, so she can keep her benefits he has to rent a crappy little room in a house share so he can't live with her full-time. So a couple of nights a week he's sent back there to keep up the pretext of her being a lone parent. He went bankrupt and lost the flat he was awarded in our divorce because his name wasn't allowed to be on a mortgage. The mortgage was £310 a month and the flat was 30 mins from Liverpool Street Station and currently has a rental income of £750 a month. He has a flash car, and every product Apple have made, but it's nothing. If and probably when, it ends with the OW, that's all he'll have. He doesn't have his own friends, they're her friends and now he doesn't have his DC because he's dropped them like a lead balloon. He has got to be one of the most pathetic people I've ever met. I might even feel sorry for him one day...maybe.

So Cake Flowers Chocolate to all of you who are going through this now and you're hurt and bewildered and don't know what's happening, I promise you life will get better, time really is great healer and in four years time you will probably get out of bed every day with a smile on your face, grateful that your shitbag XH left you and like me, you'll probably be wishing he did it sooner, because life is too short to have devoted so much of it to a twat.

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Milzilla · 26/02/2016 08:24

My ex cheated on me for two years (ow didn't know about me - he lead two lives) then when he was caught out (by my mother) and I said I was going to tell ow (they even had a house/mortgage together) be went to the police, lied that he had been in a physically abusive relationship with me and asked if he could take out a restraining order to protect him and ow.

This was his vile attempt to stop the truth coming out. Police came to see me, said they didn't believe a word he said.

But it's still on record and I worry it will impact my adoption chances later.

Self-preservation at it's worst.

I had a nervous breakdown about six months later.

Some awful stories here. Flowers

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Fidelia · 26/02/2016 08:30

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absolutelynotfabulous · 26/02/2016 08:33

Yes, it sounds soooo familiar. I can even trace "D"p's contempt of me to the start of his cheating. He knows how devastated I am, so rather than confront his own behaviour, he turns it back on me, hoping that I'll just "go away".

Fat chance!Grin

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Anniegetyourgun · 26/02/2016 09:59

I remember a former neighbour telling me about a friend to whom he had lent some money (biggish but not massive, a few hundred quid), hadn't repaid it, and since then the friend had been avoiding him or if he saw him was very curt and dismissive, as though it were the neighbour who had done him out of some money instead of the other way round. Neighbour philosophised that the more people owe you the worse they treat you. That is so true.

Btw I was accused of reinventing the history of our marriage to justify what I wanted to do, ie run off with a younger man. At the time I examined my own motives very carefully to be sure I wasn't (!). But really - I wasn't. For a start I never did run off with a man, younger or otherwise. (Or a woman for that matter.) And the marriage truly was shit, though obviously there were good bits. It can happen that way round. I have little doubt, however, that it happens just as often the way posters here have experienced. Either we lie to ourselves to stay in the marriage or we lie to ourselves when we leave it, or on some occasions, both. Happy indeed is the partnership where both can be honest to themselves. (Not to be confused with those who use "being honest" as an excuse to be very rude.)

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whatyouseeiswhatyouget · 26/02/2016 12:11

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ocelot41 · 26/02/2016 12:14

Wow. Someone I was in love with for several years did this, long before marriage/kids. I had no idea it was so common. Having cheated on me for months, he began telling mutual friends what an awful person I was and that I was a closeted gay person. I am bi - he always knew that but had struggled to be close to him in the last couple of months we were together because of a sexual attack. I

He hurt me so much at a time when I was already vulnerable that it took well over a year to get my confidence at all back together. I couldn't believe the transformation in someone who had previously been so loving and supportive. And to get that kind of treatment from your husband? Just hideous.

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DontCareHowIWantItNow · 26/02/2016 12:16

women leave for the ACTUAL reasons a lot of these men SAY they are leaving for, but in reality its because they've spotted some greener grass.

Some women do leave for ACTUAL reasons just like some men do.

Some women also leave due to OM just like some men leave due to OW.

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TwoMag314s · 26/02/2016 15:43

I hate the expression "move on" as well. I left my abusive x but it took close to five years and psychotherapy to get over it.

Move on,three days after leaving a pregnant wife Shock

omg

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hurtandconfued2016 · 26/02/2016 16:11

Yep move on that's all I get! Him and his family both tell me I need to move on! I'm now 6 weeks after he left and having his daughter on Tuesday and I am still finding it hard to move on! I still miss everything about him I miss the excitement we had when we where having our son that we should be having with our daughter but I've to get over it and move on!

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TheFormidableMrsC · 27/02/2016 22:21

We'll all "move on" when we're good, ready and able to do so. Fuck them and their deluded shit..

hurt, I am sure I speak for all of us on this thread when I wish you lots of luck for Tuesday when your beautiful DD arrives. She is a hugely lucky little girl having you...the rest of it...well you know where we all are Flowers

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dilys4trevor · 27/02/2016 22:43

hurt, I second that.

You have more than enough love for two. Be interesting to see if your H and OW's behaviour continues in the same shocking vein when she's actually here.

Cunts.

thinking of you x

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