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22 wks pregnant - to stay with controlling OH in London or leave and raise baby alone in Scotland with family?

416 replies

msatlantis · 25/01/2016 18:03

This is my first post (and a very long one), but I would really welcome some impartial views and advice, thank you in advance.

I have been with my OH for one year. We got introduced by mutual friends (one of my best friends "E", who is also married to one of his friends).

At the time we met, I had just gone through a divorce (no children) and had decided to leave my (good) job in London to return 'home' to my family in Scotland. I bought a flat in Scotland and spent my savings on renovating it.

So, I left for Scotland, but we ended up being in touch constantly, visited each other most weekends and after 3 months working and living in Scotland I decided to make the move back down south to be with him. We were crazy about each other.
At the time, I wanted us to 'date' for another few months before re-locating (again) but he didn't see the point in waiting and was quite distressed when I suggested this. He has a high-pressure, high-profile job which requires him to be in London. I returned to London on 1 July.

I was lucky enough to for my employer to offer me my previous job back. But I had no savings and depended on my OH for accommodation.

Then, it was as though the honey-moon period ended. I never seemed to be able to do anything right. This ranged from being accused of not giving his feelings due consideration to deliberately postponing the process of applying for my decree absolute from my former husband (the delay was due to the court process). I didn't "get" his job, didn't give him adequate "support" and didn't compliment him enough! He is tea-total, and if we were out for a meal at the weekend, he would get annoyed if I had more than one small glass of wine and feel the need to start a discussion about the 'dangers' of alcohol.

During the summer, my friend "E" sent me an email in which she said that she had met up with "J" (another man who she had introduced me to at the beginning of the year) and that he "said hello". My OH saw this email and took absolute offence to it, claiming that "E" was still trying to initiate a relationship between me and "J" despite us being a serious relationship. I spoke to "E", and this was not her intention, she was simply passing on a friendly message, but my OH was, and is still, fuming. He then accused "E" of being racist toward one of his friends, and of being manipulative toward both me and her husband. I have known "E" for 15 years and she is one of the sweetest girls I can think of and a true family friend. My OH then said he wanted me to stop email contact with "E", to limit text messages, and not to see her in the evenings. I felt quite vulnerable as I had moved back to London with no money and didn't have anywhere to go even if I wanted. I agreed, though continued to see "E" for lunches.

In August my OH and I were in Edinburgh for the weekend. We ended up having a big row where he accused me of "keeping things from him". He was paranoid about who I had been dating round-about the time he and I got together, and whether I was still in contact with any of these men (I wasn't). He said he had had enough and spat in my face. I was shaking and shocked, but chose not to do anything about it (now, I wish I had probably walked away at this point). The next day we had another row (think shouting/swearing), at which point I telephoned my Mum and sister to come round to the flat as I was shaking like a leaf. We ended up deciding to try and work things out and returned to London together.

Things did not improve much in late August, early September. His hatred toward "E" had become worse, I felt as though I could do no right, and one night he threw all of my clothes out of the wardrobe and all of my jewelery on the floor and told me to go (this was at 11pm at night). I told him I would leave the next morning. The next morning, he said he wanted to try and work things out. Again, for some reason, I agreed.

However mid-September I had had enough. I stayed with a work colleague one night after work and sent my OH an email saying I wasn't sure if things were going to work out and I needed some time out to figure out what was best for us. I returned to our flat the next day to find absolutely no trace of my belongings whatsoever. I couldn't get a hold of him, and it was only when I left a voicemail threatening to call the police, that his mother called me and told me all of my belongings had been packed up and were in her garage.

My Mum flew down the next day, and came with me to pick up some of my things (what we could carry as we didn't have a car). I stayed with my work colleague for a few nights and in my mind the relationship was over. My OH then started texting me saying he wanted us to talk, sent me flowers at work, and said that he still loved me. We met up and ended up talking, he convinced me to give the relationship another go. I then went to Scotland on my own for a few days, during which I didn't quite feel like myself. I discovered I was pregnant. I decided to delay telling him until I had figured out what I wanted to do.

When I returned to London, things were unusually calm between us and after about a fortnight, I told him I thought I was pregnant. He was really positive about the pregnancy and for a few weeks after that he was really sweet and attentive.

We went up to Scotland for my birthday in October. I went up two days earlier than him. On my birthday evening, I found messages on his phone which suggested he had taken another woman to dinner while I had been on my own in Scotland. He said it was a "group dinner", but I am still not sure I believe him.

And over the past month or so, his behavior has been unpredictable and moody. At Christmas, he only agreed to us going up to Scotland to see my family for 3 days (we had a fortnight off) so that he could "rest properly". I miss my family SO much (we are very close) and I am told then when the baby arrives our trips to Scotland might only be once a year as we must put the baby first and it is unfair to travel with a little one. We never do anything fun because he's always tired. We discuss things only when he wants to discuss them. He couldn't make the baby's 20 week scan "due to work" at the beginning of January which I was really upset about. I then got accused of "guilt-tripping" him. A fortnight ago a huge shouting match (only he was shouting) ensued about money/looking at new houses. My OH acted like a petulant child toward me and his mother. I was left crying and shaking.

Last weekend, he completely took me by surprise by proposing. I didn't say "yes" immediately, which caused major offence - as I wanted to talk about it and I was still feeling shaken from the shouting match the previous weekend. He is adamant we get married before the baby's arrival in May even though I wanted to wait until the end of the year when I would feel more comfortable. Anyway, both my OH and his Mum put pressure on me to agree to a wedding in April.

On Friday, we ended up having a conversation about "E" - he said she is not permitted to be in our house at any time or see the baby once it is born, and that I am not allowed to send any photos of the baby to her. I said he was being disproportionate and I was told that he did "a lot" for me, that I should "be grateful" but that he had to "put his foot down" in respect of this. Given that "E" has recently moved to Manchester I am left feeling as though I am never going to be able to see her again. Is OH's controlling behavior only going to get worse?

Since our conversation about "E" he has been sullen.

I confided in my Mum this weekend and she is concerned. She said if it all felt too much I should just make arrangements to come back to Scotland and have the baby there. That my family would support me. I feel coerced by him... every time I think about leaving I seem to get drawn back into the fold. I don't know what to do now. There is no one in my family who is a single parent, and I am terrified. If we get married and I stay will I be able to take my baby to Scotland if things get worse? I know that if a friend of mine told me the above had happened to her, I would tell her she should have got rid of her OH a long time ago, but being in love and being vulnerable skews everything.

I don't know what to do. I thought about just not pandering to him over the next week or so (I usually try and keep the peace) and seeing if everything just unravels.

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goddessofsmallthings · 25/01/2016 19:01

Go back to Scotland NOW. DO NOT tell the controlling twunt when the baby is born and DO NOT put his name on the birth certificate.

If you don't get out asap you will be condemning yourself and your dc to a prison life in which your jailer's dictats must be obeyed at all times and you will become pale shadows of all that you could be.

He's already washed half your brain - don't allow him anywhere near the other half and do your best to rinse off any suds that are particularly resistant to self-preservation based on sound judgement and experience of his character.

JennyOnAPlate · 25/01/2016 19:01

Go back to Scotland asap. You need to do it before the baby is born... It would be more complicated after.

NameChange30 · 25/01/2016 19:03

Oh God. Run like the WIND from this man, and don't look back.

smilingeyes79 · 25/01/2016 19:05

Whatever you do don't marry him then he will have more of a say over where baby is raised if you do stay and split up later.
Head back home and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy with your family

NameChange30 · 25/01/2016 19:06

If you're not sure, you could read Should I Stay or Should I Go? by Lundy Bancroft.

But really, you should go, so if you're sure, do it!

DartmoorDoughnut · 25/01/2016 19:11

Personally I would run now while you can, you don't want your LO exposed to that sort of behaviour. You sound strong but bamboozled, unsurprisingly, you can do this with the help of your amazing family.

MistressWeatherwax · 25/01/2016 19:12

Definitely leave him and go to Scotland OP.

You can do it.

Good luckFlowers

Aussiebean · 25/01/2016 19:14

I have an 8 month old. My Dhofar nothing like yours, but we have struggled with lack of sleep, stress and the over all effect of everything changing.

So we have fought (rarely but more than before baby) and snapped at each other. But we always make up the same day, acknowledge we are tired and support each other to go and rest and have a break.

Do you think you oh will be able to do that?

Considering his track record.

I would say ' considering his track record and lack of sleep' but you have already said his attitude to his work and his expectations on your attitude to his work, so I doubt he will be doing his share of night feeds. Do you?

HawkEyeTheNoo · 25/01/2016 19:15

Come home to Scotland OP, you can't stay with this horrible man, and you wouldn't want to bring up your baby in an environment like this. Your family will support you and your anxiety should ease when you are home in familiar surroundings with your mum there to help. Thanks

Aussiebean · 25/01/2016 19:16

Oh, and when I got pregnant I was told by the nurses that having a baby was like throwing a grenade in the middle of a relationship.

Do you think you two would handle that well?

ImperialBlether · 25/01/2016 19:19

Another one saying go now, asap, before the baby's born.

I shuddered to think of him and his mum forcing you to marry him. His mum knows what he's like and yet she wants you linked to him for good. Awful woman, awful son.

Talcott2007 · 25/01/2016 19:20

Seriously get yourself and your unborn child away from this situation ASAP! There is no way that this could will get any better but could get so much worse! I read your whole post with an increasing sense of dread which each line. There are just so many warning bells going off! Please don't stay! You must get out!
I understand th at it can be really hard to see things objectivly when you are living the situation but ask yourself what you would be telling a friend to do if they came to you and told you that this had been happening to them!?

spacepoodle · 25/01/2016 19:20

Please, please leave. This will only get worse. Don't tell him you're leaving. Stay strong and be prepared for him to show up in Manchester and/or Scotland.

You have the support of wonderful friends and family and have no need to worry about bringing up the baby alone. You can do this.

Please let us know when you're away from him and safe Thanks

ButterIsAngelSpunk · 25/01/2016 19:21

When do you feel happier - when you're with your family, or when you're with him? That'll give you your answer.

Uphillanddowndale12 · 25/01/2016 19:23

Get out as soon as you can. Plan your leaving a go. It can only. Be better than what you're having to put up with this controlling bullying. Imagine being with him a year two years down the line. He'd impose all sorts of restrictions on you, undermine you, take away your confidence and self esteem until you had no fight left in you. Pull yourself back, you will find that person who is you again.

There's nothing better than the love and support of a close loving family who loves you unconditionally. His love (although I'd not call it love at all) is conditional and on his terms.

I got away from a controlling bully, albeit I didn't have a child. I knew if I told him I was going there'd be histrionics and threats and promises to change - I already witnessed these and saw they were just drama and emotional blackmail - so I planned it all - I packed some clothes and hid them at work then one day I just didn't go back to him and went to my family and virtually hid for a week or so not answering phone calls or letters etc - my mum and family told him when he contacted them that I'd gone away to stay with friends and wouldn't tell him where. he kept sending me flowers and presents which I ignored. After about a month I found out he was meeting women online and had been seeing a woman while he was with me who was one of our friends. So much for his protestations of love and wanting reconciliation 😀 I got stronger gradually with the help of family and friends and never ever regretted leaving him. You'll will cope and you won't noble in your own. It can only get better from now on. Just think of that lovely little baby growing up in a loving family. You owe it to yourself and your baby xx

TheExMotherInLaw · 25/01/2016 19:23

Get out now.

Uphillanddowndale12 · 25/01/2016 19:25

Sorry for typos and odd full stops 😀

Flossiesmummy · 25/01/2016 19:25

Please leave. I agree with PPs that you shouldn't say you're leaving - just go.

When the baby comes you will feel a love like no other and you will be so glad that you protected him/her from the OH.

Your mother feels that love for you and will be so glad that you're safe with her.

Please, please, just leave.

53rdAndBird · 25/01/2016 19:26

Oh, please, please get out of there. Your baby isn't even here yet, and he's already using him/her to cut you off from your family and your best friend! You will be so very alone in London. Go home to your family.

Viviennemary · 25/01/2016 19:29

He sounds one of the worse men I've read about yet on MN. And after a relationship of only one year it's only going to get worse. You have no option but to leave. His behaviour is totally controlling, abusive and bullying. You're not married to him and he has no control over you at all. Keep it this way and get away ASAP.

Fourormore · 25/01/2016 19:29

Definitely leave and report the abuse. Report it to the police, approach Women's Aid for advice (the fact that you've posted asking this question tells me you'd benefit from the Freedom Programme) and when you have any appointments with your midwife or after the baby is born with the HV, tell them what you've put here. If he found you and took you to court for contact with the baby, you need evidence.

Guiltypleasures001 · 25/01/2016 19:30

Your family especially your mum have the the measure of him, please don't let your heart and your pregnancy override your instincts on this.

He's managed to isolate you away from family and now your closest friend, this will not end well it's a set pattern that is written about in books and seen through this forum time and time again.

You have the benefit of seeing the future and seriously lovely it's not good, take your stuff and your soon to be pfb and get the hell it of dodge, as soon as you have that bairn your well and truly fucked/stuck under his control. He can effectively stop you from moving back once baby is here, listen to your family they are quietly worried about you and he knows it, and don't tell him anything.

Thanks
LeaLeander · 25/01/2016 19:31

He spat at you? Tried to control your friendships? Vindictively packed and discarded your belongings? And you would contemplate raising a vulnerable, impressionable child in that environment?

Run to your parents and be grateful that you have their support and love. He is a despicable, vile person.

I wouldn't put his name on the birth certificate either unless you legally are obliged to do so. Just say you can't remember who the father is. It would be worth foregoing the financial support to get away from him permanently and keep the child from his influence.

IsItIorAreTheOthersCrazy · 25/01/2016 19:36

I have told this before but think it would be good for you to do the same.
When I reached this stage with my ex, I broke down and told my mum. I told her I felt cornered and unhappy, that my opinions didn't seem to matter and I couldn't work out what I was doing wrong. I told her I had ended it several times before but I always went back although I didn't know why. I asked her to help me - and she did. She was my barrier. All communication from him went through her. I moved back home - she read the letters he sent me, made his emails bounce to a junk file in her email address, fielded phone calls and stood at the front door and sent him away, calmly telling him he should be ashamed of himself and he wasn't going to get passed her. She is a small but formidable woman!
Can you do this OP? Your family will be supportive of you - use this to get you away. If you stay in London, you will end up married to a man who thinks you should be grateful for what he gives you. I would bet money he won't want you to go back to work, you'll end up having to ask for money, your friends will be whittled down to almost none, spitting in your face will become shoving, then slapping and worse. You'll start (if you haven't already) trying to figure out his mood, what he wants from you, how to not annoy him. Your child will learn this too.
It's going to be much harder to leave with no money and a baby who is settled. Go now. And do it quickly

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