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Perspective please - am I overreacting to what DH did?

405 replies

Whywhywhywhy39 · 22/01/2016 08:36

I need some perspective please...

DH and I have been together for 21 years since we were 19. We have 2 DC, primary school age. We both work full time. Overall we have what I've long regarded as an incredibly lucky life - comfortable home, no money worries, close to our extended family, strong relationship ourselves.

On Sunday DH told me he has herpes. He got it from a strip bar. He went there at the beginning of Dec, was going out with friends but the evening didn't happen for some reason. Instead of comming home, he found this bar and went into a booth. Long story short, he paid some woman to give him a blow job and both touched each other.
A week or so after that the herpes appeared. He was diagnosed on 23 Dec.

We had a lot of family visiting over Christmas and into the new year, all staying with us. The last ones left last week and Sunday was the first quiet night we had together, so he told me.

I feel sick, and so so so let down. Perhaps betrayed? I don't know. Why would he do this? To us, to me, to let this horrid thing into our lives. And by "horrid thing" I mean buying sex from someone. The herpes isn't nice, but if he had got it from a previous partner with a cold sore I guess it would just be one if those things. But like this!

To be clear, visiting strip bars is entirely out of character. He's no saint but this is just way beyond normal for him, for us.

But am I over reacting? Is it just a strip club, hundreds of men go to them every night. I've tried telling myself that, but I still feel sick and shaken every time I think about him in that booth.

I could go on and on. Why? And why and why. I don't know if that question can ever be answered. But please, perspective, am I over reacting?
(FWIW he has not suggested I am, this is me trying to work thru in my head.)

OP posts:
smallfry16 · 23/01/2016 16:55

Time will tell. I went down that road and to be talking about good shepherds is bizarre and I'm a catholic. You think you're doing the right thing but really you're enabling him. You have no idea what you're dealing with. Most men carry on but hide it better.
I don't think he really gives a shit about good shepherds. You've just handed him a get of jail free card.
I once pleaded the innocent and naïve but really do you know what its called :ignorance.
Good luck OP but really you should leave him. You are behaving in a shock I can fix it because I'm a good person denial.
Minister? He has now found God? He's probably been leading this double life for years. He's saying what you want to hear. Good Lord.

Sundancesoho · 23/01/2016 16:55

Just a thought OP and I'm sure that others have mentioned it, but if you haven't had sex since he was diagnosed, you could get tested now, and if it comes back as positive, or even that you are "carrying" the virus but haven't got the outbreak, you will know he has done this before this "one off" time.
Huge hugs to you, this must be very hard.

AgathaF · 23/01/2016 17:07

Good luck for the future, whatever you decide. Please know that you have handled this with dignity, integrity and courage, which must have been incredibly difficult to do.

Whywhywhywhy39 · 23/01/2016 17:18

I know I said I'd leave this, but Bathtime "what, he thought it came with chips" has really made me laugh.

And you're right, I don't believe it.

To those saying "don't be a push over and let him off free" - I won't. I will find what is right for the girls and me. That will take time. But this will not be free of consequences. I may decide slowly but I'm not a push over and I'm not stupid.

OP posts:
needastrongone · 23/01/2016 17:21

Goos luck Why. I most certainly don't think that you are a pushover! Do exactly what is right for your family. That might take time, but I am sure you will work out what that is for your own circumstances.

Bambambini · 23/01/2016 17:36

"Minister probably goes to the same club."

Ha, wouldn't be surprised thought thought that the op and husband were Catholic so not sure why he would turn to a minister.

Gobbolino6 · 23/01/2016 17:44

All the best to you. You seem to be very astute and have a good sense of self-worth which is going to help you xxx

Georgeofthejungle · 23/01/2016 17:45

This is awful and heartbreaking for your family. I would struggle to forgive. I think I'd just about be able to get over a non stag do/mates birthday visit to the strippers (eventually) but the rest i genuinely don't think i could. I would be completely devastated if my OH did something like that. It would make me question everything and lose trust for him. Not a relationship I could stay in I don't think.

I really hope you can get past this regardless of what you decide - you'll know what's best for you and your girls.

Jibberjabberjooo · 23/01/2016 18:07

Even if he didn't realise what a 'special' was, he could at any time have said no. He could have stopped it if he wanted to. He chose not to.

smallfry16 · 23/01/2016 18:47

Minister? It's a priest if you a catholic. But its ok he can just go to confession and be guided by his good shepherd.

givepeasachance · 23/01/2016 21:38

Yeah minister is not catholic?

Op won't come back.

It's depressing that a 'marriage' is worth more than your actual dignity ans self-worth. Society and religion do a number on women every day.

ThirtyNineWeeks · 23/01/2016 21:57

OP, may I ask a genuine question? On page 8 you allude to your dh behaving 'recklessly' on 'massive nights out with the boys' (albeit twice a year). What did you mean? Can you elaborate?

magoria · 23/01/2016 22:00

Even if he said the special not knowing what it meant. He actively got his cock out, allowed it to be stuck in another woman's mouth and sucked as well as touching her himself.

Even if he didn't have a clue what a special was Hmm He could have said 'oh god sorry no!' I didn't realise.

He chose to carry on and do this.

He chose to (at the bare minimum) allow another woman to suck his cock while there was touching i.e. him feeling her bits.

Whatever else you believe. Remember that.

He chose to do this

ThirtyNineWeeks · 23/01/2016 22:22

Bloody hell, woman, did you really have to paint the picture so vividly? Have some tact.

pinkyredrose · 24/01/2016 01:38

Good luck. You're going to need it.

BertrandRussell · 24/01/2016 07:19

"Bloody hell, woman, did you really have to paint the picture so vividly? Have some tact."
I think maybe somebody did need to paint the picture so vividly. The op seems to be minimising the incident and starting to think that her husband has just been a bit of a silly billy. The reality that he made a choice and continued to actively choose throughout is one she needs to remember in the months ahead.

sugarsinner · 24/01/2016 07:54

I don't think he went to a strip club at all. The chance of catching oral herpes on your genitals is quite slim, the chances are that he has caught this through having unprotected penetrative sex.
I know this because I was diagnosed with herpes 5 years ago and my boyfriend who gave it to me at the time had all sorts of excuses too.
What an absolute arsehole your DH is for doing this to you. Atleast he told you and hasn't passed it on. You do not want to catch this yourself, it's nasty for the first year or two- 5 years on I'm outbreak free but it affected my confidence hugely at first.
You are not over reacting one bit! He has cheated on you! Girls in strip clubs don't readily give out blow jobs- usually there is a no touching rule! He has cheated on you and I'm guessing through full sexual intercourse and it won't be the first time.

Gobbolino6 · 24/01/2016 08:29

I have been lying in bed thinking about this. Is he saying there was no discussion of cost?

needastrongone · 24/01/2016 08:47

It's quite something to consider isn't it? Hope you are ok OP.

Bambambini · 24/01/2016 09:50

"Minister? It's a priest if you a catholic. But its ok he can just go to confession and be guided by his good shepherd."

I know but OP used minister which is strange.

BitOutOfPractice · 24/01/2016 10:02

It's not strange. Many stripes of the Anglican Church use minister. Anyway, why are you getting hung up on that?

Op has said she's not coming back but I hope some posts have resonated with her. I think she may have trouble ahead

Gabilan · 24/01/2016 15:06

Catholics use the term minister to refer to someone working for the church in some capacity whether lay or ordained. Sometimes it's worth checking these things quickly before casting aspersions on the OP.

Jux · 24/01/2016 15:28

Do they, Gabilan? TBH, I've never heard that term from the mouth of a Catholic, despite growing up in a very Catholic family, going to a Convent school with brothers at the Jesuit school, and having sung in a Catholic church choir from the age of 5-30+ etc etc etc.

Maybe my Catholics are different sort of Catholic to yours? Maybe it's a regional difference or something?

Genuine questions, Gabilan. Curious, not combative.

Gabilan · 24/01/2016 15:34

Jux - I don't really have much contact with Catholics but vaguely remembered having heard the term "Catholic minister". So I looked it up and found out it is used. Maybe it is regional?It's a big enough church!

LikeASoulWithoutAMind · 24/01/2016 15:41

Similar upbringing to Jux and I must admit I have never heard the term minister being used. It's priest, always.

Why I hope you can find your way through this mess. I think you are right to give yourself plenty of time to process it. Flowers

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