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Does fiance appear to be rude with way he said things?

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lijana · 18/01/2016 00:26

My fiance mentioned that the mousetrap we had was not working as food was being placed on the mousetrap and being taken by the mouse without the trap doing a thing.

My dad (whose english is not the best but can conversationally speak) whom we live with mentioned that he will go to the hardware store immediately to get some mousetraps. My mum asked my fiance to go with my dad. Then my fiance said in a blunt tone 'do we need two people to go?'
My mum insisted that they both go, so my dad walks out the front door with my fiance. My fiance then says he can go by himself when they are outside the house.
My dad then gives him $20 to buy the trap which he declines at first but my dad insists he take it.

My fiance buys 4 mouse traps, we set it up with food and in the morning the food is gone and none of them worked.

My dad in the morning, says to me in a hurt way, that he felt it strange that my fiance insisted on going himself. He felt the way my fiance said 'do we need two people to go?' was rude and felt that my fiance was avoiding going with him for some reason or found my dad annoying. He thinks that my fiance could have said things differently, e.g. say it in the following way 'its easier for me to go alone on the motorbike, or you don't have to waste your time to go I can go and as I know what to look for you can save your time.' One of the reasons my mum asked my dad to go with my fiance was because my dad's english is not good and she thinks two ppl can make better decision than one person.
My fiance is the type of person who does not like teamwork (he has said this specifically to me). He prefers to do things on his own without the help or aid of others unless he really really has to. Once he had a problem with his train card and he was trying to figure out himself for a while when I told him he could just call the call centre they set up for the card to ask them to solve his problem. His reaction was he wanted to solve himself as much as possible first before he calls up, he eventually however had to call them.

I too find it uncomfortable that my fiance said this in this way 'do we need two people to go'??. Regardless of my dad's feelings, if I was the one going with him to the store, I too would feel it is a rude comment. If he had said things in another more polite manner, I may have felt differently.

The above appears to be a small issue, however when certain tones of voice are used which are questioning and sounding annoyed, people's feelings get hurt or they start to feel uncomfortable in their own home.

My question is, what should I do specifically in this situation? I have talked to my dad and told him about my fiance's manner that it was not meant to deliberately hurt him and that he is the type of person who likes to do things himself. My dad feels there is something wrong there in this aspect with him.. from my opinion, although I try to empathise with my fiance as much as possible, I also feel this is an element of his personality that ultimately distances himself from others and also could affect his relations in job, friendwise and other fields not just with me.

I feel like I need to either tell him in person, who ask him through text during the day when we are not together the following question : 'What is the rationale behind why you wanted to go to the hardware store alone?'
Do you think this is a reasonable question to ask or am I being too nit picky in this instance and should just leave it alone and not 'stir the pot'?

OP posts:
Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/01/2016 00:00

lorelei your obvious concern for the mice is touching Grin though I do wonder if they'll appreciate the plans for the mousetraps - if they ever get bought, that is!!

I don't know about anyone else, but to me this sounds more like a skills-based assessment for the poor guy rather than a relationship. Also whatever happened to loyalty? The parents pull him apart, OP pulls him apart and now we're invited to do so as well?? As culture clashes go this sounds right up there at the top of the scale ...

GiddyOnZackHunt · 19/01/2016 00:01

I disagree lorelai :) He might feel that he wants to make a family or indeed like the OP. But there is no sense of that from her. iirc from her previous posts she's relatively young and he is dp#1. He's a company in need of rescue. Broadly similar mission statements so ripe for takeover.

lorelei9 · 19/01/2016 00:05

Ah, see Giddy, I would argue that these two businesses aren't suitable for merger and won't run well together.

Takeover would be a different thing entirely. Good thing the apartment is joint already or the mice might need to be TUPE which can be a pain.

lijana · 19/01/2016 00:06

We met online through dating website and met each other after 1 week of meeting online. I met him, we talked and were attracted to each other. We were watching a film as a date once and talked throughout the film, in the end we didnt even know what the film was about. He asked me a lot of questions in the beginning which made me feel like he was very curious person. The previous guy I dated before him never communicated with me, didnt even ask me questions. So this guy felt like he was very interested in me and I felt very good with him. We also fell in love, he met my parents and came to my house and after meeting them said to me 'I think i've found the right girl'..I enjoyed being with him all the time, never had many arguments in the beginning..
He told me he loved me after like 3 weeks and I felt very in love with him too.

I mentioned I would like to get married one day in passing when we were dating and he pretended not to be that interested in it. Then one day 1 year after we first met, he proposed. After he proposed he said that he now feels safe that I wont go anywhere, e.g. like his caught me (in my own words).

Obviously, as his family is in Ukraine i havent met them in person. He has not talked to his father for 4 years (as he deliberately cut off contact with his father as a result of his fathers alcoholism). I also can't speak with them as they dont know english. Ive seen them on skype but can only say hello and how are you. I have met his grandma and she seems like a nice lady.

The other day I was asking him about those first dates we had and how he was so talkative and had a lot of questions etc, and he told me that he had wrote a list of topics to talk about on those first dates, kept those in his wallet and if needed went to the toilet to look through it if he forgot something... I never knew this!
He said that he would need to prepare like this every day if he was to have something interesting to say to me daily.

OP posts:
smileygrapefruit · 19/01/2016 00:07

OP, can you give 3 reasons why you love him? It doesn't sound like you even like him very much...

GiddyOnZackHunt · 19/01/2016 00:08

Grin I agree that there will be a clash of working practices.
Will nobody think of the mice?

GiddyOnZackHunt · 19/01/2016 00:10

Actually you need to find somebody you can relax with. Poor guy's doing an exam every day :(

lorelei9 · 19/01/2016 00:13

OP, the beginning of things is often different than long term reality

Does marriage get him some kind of right to stay in Australia or does he already have that?

Can you honestly see this being a happy match in future? Do you have anything in common? And crucially, didn't you get thrown out of the cinema?

lijana · 19/01/2016 00:33

He already had right to stay in Australia. He didn't marry me for citizenship. His has a relative here.
I feel like without my parents, if we lived on our own it would be a happier match. We like to watch movies together, and cook and travel.

OP posts:
Fintan · 19/01/2016 00:34

He didn't marry me for citizenship

I thought he is your fiancé ?

lijana · 19/01/2016 00:39

I meant as in he didnt get engaged to me for citizenship..

OP posts:
Fintan · 19/01/2016 00:41

Right.

Giddy, I'm thinking of the mice.

lijana · 19/01/2016 00:51

How is my fiance doing an exam everyday? I actually hardly question him in person. He used to be the one who questions me a lot and I always explained things as best as I can. Im pretty patient at explaining things even if mundane.
Its only when I realised that he questioned me a lot that I started to think how come I dont question him that much, like I accepted all of him in the beginning flaws and all, yet he was acting all high and mighty questioning me. So therefore I started to be more questioning of his behaviour.

OP posts:
Fintan · 19/01/2016 00:54

139 posts and we don't seem to be getting anywhere...

OP what do you want from the thread? You asked if he appeared to be rude. You've had some responses. What else can people help you with?
It doesn't come over like you love Mouse Man at all.

lijana · 19/01/2016 01:27

I want to know based on what you have heard of him, does he sound like a person you wouldnt want to associate with? Or does he sound like a good person.
I have fluctuations where my mind and heart thinks he is good and honest and want to think all good of him but sometimes his words makes me feel he isnt what he truly displays himself to be, that he feels he is a superior person deep inside.

OP posts:
SmillasSenseOfSnow · 19/01/2016 01:51

You come across as utterly unready for a serious relationship. What he sounds like is irrelevant at this point.

lijana · 19/01/2016 01:55

Can you explain I am utterly unready for a serious relationship..list out the points please.

OP posts:
wannabestressfree · 19/01/2016 02:09

See your list message is quite 'aspie' eg needing imperical evidence or a list to 'prove' something....
Does it not strike you as odd that we all agree with each other? That you are analysing this man to death.... Its not supposed to be this hard ... Love.

Destinysdaughter · 19/01/2016 02:13

I'd suggest getting a cat as the bloody mice are causing so many problems in your relationship!

lijana · 19/01/2016 02:19

I just want a good robust explanation on why I am unready for a serious relationship. (any serious relationship)

I often hear that love is hard work..and marriage is hard work..
do you honestly not have any differences with your spouse and agree 100%?
Outside of any of the differnces I mentioned, we actually agree on most things (as Ive only listed the not so good - it may sound like we agree on nothing).
I work in a field where I need empirical evidence for things and am required to question others on things.

OP posts:
Baconyum · 19/01/2016 02:27

You sound like hardwork and as a result of the nasty posts earlier which I have reported I am out except to say I think your fiancé and I would get along great. I like to just get on with things and say what I mean and not have my every word or action analysed and criticised.

SmillasSenseOfSnow · 19/01/2016 02:31

See your list message is quite 'aspie' eg needing imperical evidence or a list to 'prove' something....

Don't be daft. The OP is just being immature and trying to be bitchy in response because she doesn't like anyone that doesn't post how she wants.

lijana · 19/01/2016 02:32

However he would analyse and criticise your every action..

OP posts:
smileygrapefruit · 19/01/2016 04:37

I want to know based on what you have heard of him, does he sound like a person you wouldnt want to associate with? Or does he sound like a good person.

It really doesn't matter what anyone on this thread says either way because you can't even give one reason why you love him so he could be a cross between Brad Pitt and bloody Gandhi and you still shouldn't be together because you just don't like or love him.

wannabestressfree · 19/01/2016 06:11

When people talk about the hardwork of love and relationships its down the line. We come here for advice if something has changed etc. Not changing Someone from the beginning or being hyper critical. And you can't equate the field you work in to your relationship. . .

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