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Does fiance appear to be rude with way he said things?

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lijana · 18/01/2016 00:26

My fiance mentioned that the mousetrap we had was not working as food was being placed on the mousetrap and being taken by the mouse without the trap doing a thing.

My dad (whose english is not the best but can conversationally speak) whom we live with mentioned that he will go to the hardware store immediately to get some mousetraps. My mum asked my fiance to go with my dad. Then my fiance said in a blunt tone 'do we need two people to go?'
My mum insisted that they both go, so my dad walks out the front door with my fiance. My fiance then says he can go by himself when they are outside the house.
My dad then gives him $20 to buy the trap which he declines at first but my dad insists he take it.

My fiance buys 4 mouse traps, we set it up with food and in the morning the food is gone and none of them worked.

My dad in the morning, says to me in a hurt way, that he felt it strange that my fiance insisted on going himself. He felt the way my fiance said 'do we need two people to go?' was rude and felt that my fiance was avoiding going with him for some reason or found my dad annoying. He thinks that my fiance could have said things differently, e.g. say it in the following way 'its easier for me to go alone on the motorbike, or you don't have to waste your time to go I can go and as I know what to look for you can save your time.' One of the reasons my mum asked my dad to go with my fiance was because my dad's english is not good and she thinks two ppl can make better decision than one person.
My fiance is the type of person who does not like teamwork (he has said this specifically to me). He prefers to do things on his own without the help or aid of others unless he really really has to. Once he had a problem with his train card and he was trying to figure out himself for a while when I told him he could just call the call centre they set up for the card to ask them to solve his problem. His reaction was he wanted to solve himself as much as possible first before he calls up, he eventually however had to call them.

I too find it uncomfortable that my fiance said this in this way 'do we need two people to go'??. Regardless of my dad's feelings, if I was the one going with him to the store, I too would feel it is a rude comment. If he had said things in another more polite manner, I may have felt differently.

The above appears to be a small issue, however when certain tones of voice are used which are questioning and sounding annoyed, people's feelings get hurt or they start to feel uncomfortable in their own home.

My question is, what should I do specifically in this situation? I have talked to my dad and told him about my fiance's manner that it was not meant to deliberately hurt him and that he is the type of person who likes to do things himself. My dad feels there is something wrong there in this aspect with him.. from my opinion, although I try to empathise with my fiance as much as possible, I also feel this is an element of his personality that ultimately distances himself from others and also could affect his relations in job, friendwise and other fields not just with me.

I feel like I need to either tell him in person, who ask him through text during the day when we are not together the following question : 'What is the rationale behind why you wanted to go to the hardware store alone?'
Do you think this is a reasonable question to ask or am I being too nit picky in this instance and should just leave it alone and not 'stir the pot'?

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NerrSnerr · 18/01/2016 09:58

To answer your question, no I don't have relationship problems.

What are you hoping to get out of these threads op?

AnyFucker · 18/01/2016 09:59

Ugh

HumptyDumptyHadaHardTime · 18/01/2016 10:02

What are you women doing on here mostly?

Because I want to be.

you all have relationship problems?

No

You probably mostly divorced or husbands cheating on you?

No and No.

Ridiculous questions to ask and just shows your immaturity tbh.

Dragonsdaughter · 18/01/2016 10:04

Do you have a mouse fetish? If so its fascinating and niche :)

LineyReborn · 18/01/2016 10:07

What am I doing on here?

Watching you making a tit of yourself.

rollonthesummer · 18/01/2016 10:08

What are you women doing on here mostly? Do you all have relationship problems? You probably mostly divorced or husbands cheating on you?

Blimey. That's the last time I reply to you!

DoreenLethal · 18/01/2016 10:09

What are you women doing on here mostly?

I am drinking coffee before I go and take a shed down.

You? Are now off the Christmas Card list.

DoreenLethal · 18/01/2016 10:11

...which I can't do until my drill case has dried as I gave it the once over this morning to get rid of the oil and grease left by students.

Kittymum03 · 18/01/2016 10:12

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lijana · 18/01/2016 10:16

I just see many threads of women with issues such as cheating husbands, divorce, sex problems so I assumed many on here have problems such as these. If your relationship was great why would you be on this particular forum.

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Kittymum03 · 18/01/2016 10:20

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Offred · 18/01/2016 10:23

Not everyone who replies to threads posts threads themselves.

People who post threads post because they have relationship issues they'd like advice on, like you have.

People who reply to threads reply because they like to help people with issues they'd like advice on (the people responding to you thread).

Fact is you just don't want to hear that the majority of people here think you should try to understand and respect that your DP is different not 'wrong' if you want to build a successful partnership, or you should split up and find someone who shares your values.

I can't see why you would reject that perfectly sensible advice tbh...

Sanchar · 18/01/2016 10:23

People aren't morbidly trawling the relationships board, your thread popped up in active conversations.

I'm here having tea while waiting for a tradesman to arrive and also watching you making a fool of yourself.

CocktailQueen · 18/01/2016 10:23

What are you women doing on here mostly? Do you all have relationship problems? You probably mostly divorced or husbands cheating on you?

Grin Grin

OP - doesn't matter whether your fiance has Asperger's, autism or whether he's just a rude twat with no social skills. Your relationship isn't working. Why not end it?

Over and out.

Stillunexpected · 18/01/2016 10:25

I just see many threads of women with issues such as cheating husbands, divorce, sex problems so I assumed many on here have problems such as these. If your relationship was great why would you be on this particular forum. You really are a charmer aren't you?

Yes, lots of people have problems with their relationships, lots more people don't. People tend only to post on here when they want advice or their relationship is going wrong. People don't post when everything is going well and they are happy.

As to why people are on this forum, maybe because they want to help others like yourself? Although are probably now wondering why they bother? If you think only people with problems read this forum, why are you posting here? Do you think only other unhappy people can help you?

Offred · 18/01/2016 10:31

I do understand that some people's values are very, very important to them. I am one of those people.

The difficulty in relationships with others comes when you try and impose your strong values on other people who have different values and when you don't recognise that your way of seeing the world is different to someone else's rather than 'the way things should be'.

He's not doing anything other than being himself and living according to his values. He's not harming you, he's not judging you. You are just different. If you really do want to be with him you need to accept him and love him for who he is not try and change him into a different person - surely you can understand that?

HumptyDumptyHadaHardTime · 18/01/2016 10:32

I just see many threads of women with issues such as cheating husbands, divorce, sex problems so I assumed many on here have problems such as these. If your relationship was great why would you be on this particular forum.

Maybe don't make assumptions. They are often wrong.

lijana · 18/01/2016 10:33

All I can say is some people on here appear helpful while others seem to be negative or trolls. Having little respect for my point of view of things or my parents. My parents are both blue collar workers who have little English skills, who came with nothing to this country, and tried hard to make it here which they did. They worked hard all their life. They have been extremely accommodating to my fiancé, they treat him like their own son, yet it seems to still not be good enough. My fiancé has never seen an Asian person when he was in Ukraine and their country is quite racist. He himself made a joke when we were dating that "aren't whites better than Asians". I think deep down he feels somehow superior to Asians, (even though he is a penniless immigrant himself) and many Caucasian people like yourself feel some entitled superiority whether you claim yourself to be racist or not. Caucasians don't appear to understand filial piety or respect for ones parents. You guys just don't know what it feels like to be a struggling immigrant or to look different. I went out once with my fiancé to some place and a lady came up to us and said to my fiancé whether I'm from Thailand. In the end she was surprised to find out I'm not some mail order girlfriend and that I actually grew up here and that he wasn't Aussie when he spoke and she heard his accent.

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happygoluckylady · 18/01/2016 10:35

No...not more about this fella.

Seriously OP you need to get out more and let this poor mouse man out of his misery.

DoreenLethal · 18/01/2016 10:38

Your parents. We don't know them and will never meet them. It doesn't matter.

The advice has been either deal with your partner or get out.

The point of engagements is that you use the time to decide whether they are the right person for you.

I've not read anywhere that you actually have feelings for him. And now he is a racist on top of everything.

So why bother?

ravenmum · 18/01/2016 10:43

I came on here because I was having trouble in my relationship, just like you, and I wanted advice from other people with experience of that. Much better than just getting advice from people who are completely inexperienced in the subject, as I'm sure you'll agree.

There's nothing disrespectful on this thread about you or your parents, and no suggestion until now that it has anything to do with Asians or Ukrainians.
Someone once came up to me in the street and called me a "parasite" because I'm a foreigner. Not sure who you mean by "you guys".

ElderlyKoreanLady · 18/01/2016 10:45

I came for the antenatal threads. I stayed for the debates Smile

Just let your poor fiance get on with his life without pestering him every 5 fucking minutes. Is it any wonder he wants to go somewhere alone when the opportunity strikes? It's a chance to not have one of you over analyse every tiny thing he does! Or doesn't do...You've even analysed the balloon guy's comments as though a complete stranger was completely capable of interpreting his silence!

I have to ask OP, do not ask if OP is enjoying story telling you have a fantastic grasp of written English but seemingly zero grasp of British culture and your mention of ASD makes me wonder if you have more intimate knowledge and are on the spectrum yourself?

Finally, 'shy' and 'introverted' don't mean the same thing. I, for example, am very introverted. I'm not shy at all though.

NerrSnerr · 18/01/2016 10:45

So why are you engaged to him if you think that he looks down on you because of your race? It doesn't sound like you like him very much. I also agree, some people are terribly racist but I haven't seen any evidence of that on this thread.

What are his good points, why do you want to marry him?

Kittymum03 · 18/01/2016 10:45

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AnyFucker · 18/01/2016 10:46

The only person making racist remarks, coming across as intolerant, disrespecting other's viewpoints and acting in a troll-like manner is you

And you keep doing it over and over again.

Do you think everyone on this site is from a Caucasian background ?. How very narrow minded of you.