It's not looking good is it?

[Saggingninja]

Have NC for this. I'll try not to drip feed.

Been together for fifteen years. I have a DD from a previous marriage.

We don't live together, partly because my previous marriage was very bad and I wanted to make a secure home for myself and my daughter. I then met my DP a few years later. He has three grown children and has always been a very good stepfather to my daughter. He often comes to stay with me and when my daughter stays with her dad (who lives nearby) I stay with him. It suits us both.

While staying with DP for Christmas, I noticed a card from a mutual female friend of ours (let's call her Helen) - very flirty and clearly referring to a hotel along the lines of 'don't go there again'. The word 'again' has stuck in my mind. I asked him what this meant and he said 'no idea'. He then said the card was 'years old'. I couldn't remember seeing that card before but I had nowhere to put this information so even though I was disturbed by it, I let it go. Then later that day when I was home, I received an email from Helen, hoping I'd had a great Christmas and chatting about seeing an actress friend of hers in a play, in a regional theatre, a few hours from where she (Helen) lives. My heart began crashing because the location of the theatre was on the train route which went past this hotel that my DP had 'no idea' about. The three weeks during which the play was on (so the time that my DP and Helen might have seen each other) I didn't see DP at all because I was so busy. And I knew that train route so well because I used to use that train route all the time when visiting my mother in hospital.

Helen and I have been close for several years. I'm fond of her husband and her teenage children. I love her company and I can't bear to think she might have betrayed me.

Putting the email and the card together put my friend and my DP together. I knew it was all circumstantial but my instincts were telling me something was up. DP said he had phoned Helen and (surprise) she couldn't remember making this reference to this hotel either. Surely I couldn't believe that 'he or she would betray me like this' etc etc.

I rang the hotel but neither of their names was on the hotel's list going back the whole of that year.

Not wanting to snoop (and to be honest it would be difficult because we don't live together) I asked him for access to his phone records which would reassure me. He texted that he would two days ago. I've heard nothing since.

I've heard nothing from Helen either although DP says he has spoken to her on the phone. If DP suspected me and I had the means to prove my innocence I would want to end his distress asap and hand over my phone records like a shot. He hasn't which says he has something to hide. Either that or he is angry with me for 'questioning' him and is punishing me. But that would be such a shitty thing to do.

Oh an his previous marriage ended when he had an affair with a friend of his (then) wife.

Please help. I'm feeling blank and physically cold. The script as I understand it is deny deny, then when you can't deny any more, minimise. We're still on denial.

[whoreandpeace]

Hope you've blocked Helen too, Ninja? I'd give her one last text to tell her just what you think of her and then block her. And perhaps wind her up a bit with 'hope you are going to speak to your DH before I have to?' Nothing like a bit of cold revenge.....

You must feel so lonely. Have you got RL friends you can talk to? Or parents? I think you need someone to give you a hug and help you down the coffee. Please look after yourself xxx

[Enoughalreadyyou]

Have a good an evening ad you can. I really hope you don't see him. Be prepared for him to start bombarding you in the next few days. You are very impressive. Your instincts were spot on. You have handled it really well.

[SouthWestmom]

I am really stunned to be deleted. I often fudge my children's ages on here and the timeline you've posted doesn't add up so I asked for clarity. I won't repeat the maths as it'll probably get deleted again. I've contacted mumsnet to explain.

[whoreandpeace]

Noeuf, the timeline totally does add up. But we are not here to challenge OP's facts, we are here to support her. Put your ego away please.

[kittybiscuits]

Hope you're okay ninja

[cappy123]

Imperial he had an affair with ONE of his wife's friends. He also had a few one night stands. (This is what he told me). It was before he met me.

If he goes all arsey about me 'not trusting him' then I don't care. He has fucked around within his marriage (yes before he met me) but BECAUSE he won't talk to me or show me these records I am now beginning to think - maybe he has had other shags I just haven't found out about.

^This. I think you know what to do

[Binders1]

Hope you're ok too Saggingninja.