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Can I get a male perspective on porn?

154 replies

Lepetitechat · 03/01/2016 10:37

What part does it play in your life? If you're in a relationship do you still use it? Do you hide it from your partner? I'm just interested to know , and this is to do with my own self confidence - do the women in porn 'stick' in your head, or are they just images that you forget about moments later?
Do the women have to be stunning or is it more about the bodies and what's happening?
How does this affect how you feel about your OH?
I know how I feel about it, I don't watch it but if I did, and I have done in the past - the people in it made no difference to me, I couldn't have cared less but I know some people take it more seriously - having favourite stars for instance..
Sry for all the questions

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Lepetitechat · 03/01/2016 16:16

It was directed at Suzanne, cote.

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Lepetitechat · 03/01/2016 16:17

Exactly! ;-)

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CoteDAzur · 03/01/2016 16:18

"Erm, yeah - the little cat is what I meant"

Then change your name to lepetitchat, without the letter 'e' before 'c'.

Such a basic mistake does not look good, especially as you ask people if they have ever been to school.

suzannecaravaggio · 03/01/2016 16:18

Just try and shut me up because I guarantee I'll win
you recon you can take me?
ha ha
outside now we'll see who wins

CoteDAzur · 03/01/2016 16:21

I don't care who your post is "directed" at. This is a public forum and you are wrong. Masturbation is a sexual act. Sexual arousal? Check. Sexual pleasure? Check. Orgasm? (Most of the time) Check.

So what if there is no long-term partner to gaze into your eyes in the room? It's still a sexual act.

Lepetitechat · 03/01/2016 16:25

Ok,fine. I give up.
Lol suzanne
So porn trumps physical relationships and is now considered "sex"
Welcome to 2016..

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Lepetitechat · 03/01/2016 16:27

Sorry about my name cote I hope I didn't cause too much offence.

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suzannecaravaggio · 03/01/2016 16:28

so how exactly did you propose to effect your guaranteed win Lepetitechat?
I thought you were after some sort of physical altercation?

JAPAB · 03/01/2016 16:31

There exists porn which consists simply of a man or woman masturbating, entirely on their own.

Don't think anyone is having sex in that case, neither them nor the viewer (who might not even be masturbating, just watching). Doing something sexual not being the same thing as having sex.

Lepetitechat · 03/01/2016 16:39

Yes but doing something sexual is not the same as having sex..
Porn is pretty far away from sec in my view because;
99% of it is fake - I.e acting for the sake of making money
There is coercion , abuse and date I say it, rape involved which doesn't constitute a good time..
The industry is rife with stds
Just doesn't seem sexy to me..

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LurcioAgain · 03/01/2016 16:39

OP. Let's try some basic logic here shall we? "Some sexual acts are carried out solo and may or may not involve the use of porn" does not imply "All sexual acts involve the use of porn." Exactly no-one on this thread has argued for the latter.

For the record I think filmed pornography is inherently exploitative: at best it's filmed pornography but may well be non- consensually disseminated revenge porn or filmed rape. So I suspect that you and I should be on the same side. But I still find your posting style unnecessarily offensive and goady.

Lepetitechat · 03/01/2016 16:40

Plus the fact that you first have to imagine that they're all having a right good time and are actually into each other, before anything else which seems like a lot if effort to me

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Lepetitechat · 03/01/2016 16:41

But someone mentioned corrie earlier, which ok is also acting but let's face it they don't have to endure various things in every orifice for their pay

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CoteDAzur · 03/01/2016 16:46

"Sorry about my name cote I hope I didn't cause too much offence."

No offence at all. I couldn't care less that you seem to think you can write in French but can't.

I just thought you might like to correct it, especially given your aggressive posting style that involves accusing people of not having had sufficient formal education.

CoteDAzur · 03/01/2016 16:55

"Yes but doing something sexual is not the same as having sex.. "

Wrong. Sex included all sexual activity, not just sexual intercourse. You might like to check s dictionary at this point.

Or are you going to agree that Bill Clinton was right when he said "I did not have sex with that woman" because he was thinking poking a cigar into a vagina doesn't constitute sex? Impeachment committee didn't.

CuttedUpPear · 03/01/2016 16:59

To get a thread moved into a different topic it needs to be reported, which can be by the OP or any other poster.

Mind you OP, carry on abusing people on this thread and you won't need to worry about what topic it's in.

Oh - and porn is sex. Unethical and unhealthy IMO, but it's still sex.

Keepithidden · 03/01/2016 17:03

Don't post much anymore, but still an avid lurker and occassionally like to chip in!

I'm male, I used to use porn but having learnt about the industry no longer do. Although I should clarify, I don't use the filmed stuff, I do use erotic literature of various genres. For me, my current use is no different to my previous use. I never used to compare pornography to real life, in the same way I never used to compare Hollywood to real life.

I hope most users of porn are the same, but am acutely aware of the stories on MN that suggest otherwise, so maybe my hope is misplaced. I grew up preinternet so that may have a bearing on my views...

In answer to your questions, yes I hide it from my partner, we have an almost sexless marriage, completely mismatched libidos and I think it would upset her. I wouldn't lie if she asked about it, but I doubt she ever will.

The women/men I fantasise about aren't and weren't stunning: the turn on was always the amount of fun/enjoyment there were having, so violent and/or S&M type stuff was never my bag. I didn't idolise or remember their names. None of this changes/changed how I felt about my wife.

Hope that's useful OP.

Samantha28 · 03/01/2016 17:04

"Yes but doing something sexual is not the same as having sex.. "

Why did no one tell me this before ? I've been doing it wrong all these years

JAPAB · 03/01/2016 17:07

Or are you going to agree that Bill Clinton was right when he said "I did not have sex with that woman" because he was thinking poking a cigar into a vagina doesn't constitute sex?

Yes, he was technically correct in my opinion. A questioner needed to adopt a Jeremy Kyle style approach and additionally ask about "sexual contact" after the sex question. Then he could not have said no.

Saying that you had sex with someone when you inserted a cigar in them would mislead most people, as they would assume that what is meant is that sexual intercourse took place.

CoteDAzur · 03/01/2016 17:10

Samantha Grin

CoteDAzur · 03/01/2016 17:11

JAPAB - Look up the word 'sex' in the dictionary if you really need to learn that it doesn't just mean sexual intercourse.

Helmetbymidnight · 03/01/2016 17:14

Clinton said 'I did not have sexual relations with that woman'.

Only you and possibly bill Clinton could possibly think that's correct.

JAPAB · 03/01/2016 17:23

Only you and possibly bill Clinton could possibly think that's correct.

I responded to the quote given, which gave an unqualified "sex". "Sexual relations" does sound a bit more like "sexual activity", and so no there would not get out then.

I am sure there are dictionary definitions that say the word covers everything, and so a bit of cigar-play means that "sex" took place. But I still think you would mislead most people if you say you had sex with someone last night without further qualification, when a bit of sexual touching is what happened.

RaisedByWolves · 03/01/2016 17:28

Good luck with your dissertation!Grin

AyeAmarok · 03/01/2016 17:58

What a shame. I thought the OP's questions were interesting - especially the does it make you think differently/compare your RL partner to the porn actresses.

But why so aggressive and goady OP? Especially to the men posting, who are the ones you wanted to respond to your thread!

I also agree that, to me, sex = sexual intercourse. As in, if one of my friends said they'd spent the night with someone, but didn't have sex, I wouldn't think that meant they lay separately and didn't touch each other all night, I'd think kissed, touched intimately, maybe oral sex, but no PIV.