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Financial control. What is normal?

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AngryMo · 03/01/2016 00:20

I've lost count how many times I've tried to start this thread, and don't know how to articulate it as I don't really know what I want. It ranges from I need to leave ASAP to I might as well just stay.

The many questions that I keep switching between are:

Is DH emotionally/financially abusive? I don't know if I'm imagining it or if it is real.

How do couples manage their finances if one stays at home? I want to know what other people do to see if the way he manages it is normal or not.

Why does he on the one hand, show off to his friends about the money he's spent doing up our house recently and the flashy things he's bought, but on the other, makes me feel like I'm almost stealing his money when I need cash for housekeeping or other essential things for the children (we agreed I would stay home until kids are in school)? Why does he make me account for every single penny like we don't have any money when I know he has plenty? Why did he buy me an expensive gift for Christmas and splash out on expensive wines and things for our guests but then have a go at me for spending £7.50 on a gift for a friend's daughter, which he then checked the price of online to check I wasn't lying?

I'm exhausted living with him and he makes me miserable which can't be much fun for him either. I don't see how he can enjoy being in this relationship either. In the past he's humiliated me in front of friends, reducing me to tears in front of them, he's stormed off leaving me in a restaurant on my own with a full plate after I wanted to discuss what was wrong with us and how we could fix it. I've also had two panic attacks because of how he treats me. He never apologises in person but has by email but even the never spontaneously, always as a result of me telling him he needs to apologise.

Also, he doesn't really react when I tell him we should probably just split up and then pretends everything is fine after an argument's died down. Why does he do that?

I never get any real emotion from him and I don't remember the last time I thought what a lovely person you are. I used to, but that was years ago. I get so jealous when I see happy couples bantering away together, being affectionate with one another.

But then again, maybe I am a complete idiot, what was I thinking giving up my job to look after my children? Why did I hand over my financial independence? Is he right to control my spending so tightly? Should I have to ask every time I need to buy a new bra or want to take the kids out or need to buy a present for a friend? Maybe this is normal, I don't know. Maybe it is all his money and I don't deserve to be spending it. I rarely ask for money for anything frivolous. Maybe because he earns the money, if he wants to spend £2000 on an appliance I have no right to say it's too expensive. I'm so scared to tell him I overspent the other day by accident. He's never been physically abusive but I'm scared of his reaction. Often if I tell him something - anything, not necessarily money related, I wonder why I bothered because it's not worth the grief, so I keep many things to myself and it makes me secretive which I dislike. I am a very open person generally and it's not in my nature to behave that way but I feel forced to.

Thing is though because I am now financially dependent, he knows it's not that easy for me to leave. I don't know what to do. I love my children deeply and they are only small and need us to be together.

Anyone who can relate to me or has any experience, has words of advice, or even to tell me I'm being pathetic, whatever it is, I would like to know.

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Akire · 25/01/2016 12:34

I know you want to wait until see CAB but given you are so angry at moment you could ring up and start claim for Child benefit and income support and tax credits.
He has "moved out" you have split up. He is providing maintence and for the moment covering mortgage. The fact he dosnt know you have dosnt matter. Huge step I know but it take good 4-6 weeks to sort payments so by then you will know more about where you stand with house if you can stay and if you then decide to move you will have money in place.

PhoenixReisling · 25/01/2016 12:40

^I know you want to wait until see CAB but given you are so angry at moment you could ring up and start claim for Child benefit and income support and tax credits.
He has "moved out" you have split up. He is providing maintence and for the moment covering mortgage. The fact he dosnt know you have dosnt matter. Huge step I know but it take good 4-6 weeks to sort payments so by then you will know more about where you stand with house if you can stay and if you then decide to move you will have money in place.^

^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^

Also, I agree whilst you have a car go to the supermarket and buy food. How long will you be without a car? If it will be for a week or so IMO, I would do more than a basic shop.

AngryMo · 25/01/2016 12:46

Aargh...this is the bit I've been avoiding replying about since I am cautious about what I write. There is a good reason I can't claim any benefits yet (nothing shifty) so if you are able to understand why that may be the case, please don't post or speculate about in on the thread. Sounds all very mysterious doesn't it, sorry. Anyway hope CAB can help with that next week.

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RandomMess · 25/01/2016 12:46

Just hugs and more hugs, I really detest him!!! FGS my DH doesn't drive and at various points we've had joint RAC cover so on the rare occasion he was away for the weekend with other people I knew he had car cover...

His level of control is beyond ridiculous.

I'd be tempted to email him "I'm not prepared to ferry sick children around on a bus either send me the money to organise a hire car or buy me a new car, we can afford it and our dc deserve the best not the worst care"

RandomMess · 25/01/2016 12:48

TBH I think I'd be tempted to relocate to near your parents, move schools the lot let him find out after the event!!!!

PhoenixReisling · 25/01/2016 12:55

We won't speculate mo, don't worry about that Flowers.

AngryMo · 25/01/2016 12:59

Thank you. When you're raging and fuming it's easy to just spill out all the details, relevant or not, and I keep reminding myself MN isn't exactly the dark web and I am terrified of anyone who shouldn't be reading this seeing all this stuff and connecting all the dots. But also to get the most accurate advice you need to give a certain amount of detail too.

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Akire · 25/01/2016 13:02

No prob re benefits! Fact you don't have safety net even more stress. Let us know what we can do to help. I'm up for making vodoo dolls we can take turns putting pins in. 24h Mumsnet swearing at Him chant etc :)

Grumpyoldblonde · 25/01/2016 13:05

Don't worry Mo, we respect your privacy if not your partner. Voodoo dolls Akire why not?!
There will always be someone around to have a rant with or get advice from Mo, you are doing great.

PhoenixReisling · 25/01/2016 13:07

Voodoo dolls and donkey kicks....Grin

yolofish · 25/01/2016 13:21

Mo I've read but not commented before. I am in awe of you, you are so strong and you will win through this. best thing of all is that he has NO idea how strong you are - hang on to that thought, it will see you through xx

velocitygir1 · 25/01/2016 14:12

Mo, you are freaking AWESOME! You are strong and I am totally (like everyone else on this thread) behind you a 100%.

I am in a similar situation but it's not as bad as yours, your bloke is a headfuck plain and simple. He obviously doesn't give a flying fuck about you or his children to make you suffer the way you are. He is a controlling pig and you are so much better without him in your life.

I'm taking baby steps so I know how hard it can be but you are an inspiration.

mix56 · 25/01/2016 15:01

Your email could include some of these points:

When did he get so superior ? you were students together, you have grown & had children together. so you both decided to have DC3, & you would stay home to provide childcare. which would enable him to provide finance for the unit.
When did he "take over"?
this role he has given himself is like a mental sickness, he comes from a dysfunctional family, & he doesn't even know it.

He has no idea how it feels, he doesn't know the price of milk, he hasn't ever been in a broken down car with 3 kids & no money.
He thinks if he gives you more money you will waste it, that you are irresponsible, his allowance is enough, & that you mismanage. & if he is "thrifty" he can save up for a show off car. his trips, his hobbies.
well actually that's it for you, it is not a "family", he has become a dictator.
He is not listening to you, he is a snide & cynical & actually a fake.
You are not happy & can only see one solution. He is certainly not the person you thought you knew, & certainly not loved.

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AngryMo · 25/01/2016 16:25

I told him I urgently needed money for groceries today and that shit happens and this is why having a prepaid shopping card is totally inconvenient - not only is it not topped up when he says it would be, I can't even get to the store itself without a car. So he finally has put some money in, a week's worth (75) but he very kindly reminded me in two weeks' time he'd obviously only top up 75 and not 150. How sweet of him to completely miss the point all over again. How nice of him to show his concern for the situation NOW but to focus on the financial status quo in two weeks' time. SCREAM!

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AngryMo · 25/01/2016 16:27

Sad to hear so many people have experienced this or are going through something similar now Sad It's more common than most people realise isn't it?

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Akire · 25/01/2016 16:27

So he's in effect just given you an advance ? So it's your fault you have run out before the next top up. So make £75 last for two weeks. Then next £75 has last for two weeks?

Grumpyoldblonde · 25/01/2016 16:28

Give him enough rope...

AngryMo · 25/01/2016 16:30

Yes, exactly that, just an advance. 75 now, 150 on card to last 2 weeks and then a top up of 75 for a week.

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Akire · 25/01/2016 16:32

Is that doable? So still having 3 weeks money that's got to last you 4 weeks. How very big of him

AngryMo · 25/01/2016 16:34

No Akire, it's not less than normal - still the same total just 75 in my account rather than the prepaid card itself.

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Grumpyoldblonde · 25/01/2016 16:34

Did he decree this by email? I do hope so, tosser

Akire · 25/01/2016 16:35

That's A great start Mo. Small victories and all that.

AngryMo · 25/01/2016 16:37

By the way...how do you think I should respond to his I've just transferred 75 blah blah but you'll only get 75 in two weeks instead of 150. I almost replied just a simple thanks but then thought hang on a minute, Mo! Thanks for what, causing me stress, not knowing if your kids had enough to eat? A simple OK should do it I suppose. But I feel like adding something extra.

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Akire · 25/01/2016 16:40

Oh tempting say. The kids thank you so much that they can eat tonight. What a great father you are.

Or don't reply at all. He's hardly being caring friendly to you. It's just a financial transaction - I will do X

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