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My sons girlfriend is a problem!!!!!

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worriedgran57 · 28/11/2015 22:46

This is my first time on mumsnet so I hope I am doing it properly!! Hope you don't mind a gran asking for advice!

My son is with a girlfriend who is 17. She fell pregnant right before she was 16!! They had only been together 6 months. My son was just finishing his A levels and it was a very worrying time. He is a very smart boy, his IQ is very high and we were hoping he would go to Oxford or Cambridge.

He didn't do well in his exams. Studying went to pot, because he was of course so worried about his girlfriend!

Now I know she is still young, but she is very manipulative. She told my son she had problems with her period, so he thought she couldn't get pregnant...clearly that wasn't the case!

Since the baby (a little boy) came along, my son has had to resit some exams. He has been so stressed at the behaviour of this girl. She seems to want him to get a job, but in the long run going to university would be a better option. I told him that he needn't think he will be playing happy families with his girldfriend and the baby because he has his education to think of....he is only a boy. They are both too young to set up home together!

I also have a 14 year old daughter and I don't think this girl is a good influence....she used to go out with her friends a lot before the baby was born,sometimes not coming home until 11pm at night....she invited my daughter out a few times but I didn't allow her...it's not so much the girl herself, it's her friends I am worried about!

This girl has been allowed to do whatever she wants...taking the train to the city for the day. staying out, going on holiday with people her parents barely know....

She isn't a bad mother but she is careless...last month she took the baby out a 2 mile walk in the pram with only a coat and a thin blanket on. She takes him miles away on the bus, he sleeps in her bed....I know they are just little things but he has no routine or stability in my opinion

She is rude about our house...we have 6 cats and 3 dogs and she told my son she didn't want to let the baby sleep in his cot in the living room because she felt he was unsafe near the animals! My animals would never hurt anyone, they are rescues and very gentle and timid....she thinks our house is dirty. OK it might smell a bit catty but it is not dirty! She also refused to sit in the living room with the baby when my husband was watching TV, she said the show was too violent...

I don't feel comfortable in my own home when she visits with the baby, I have got into the habit of taking my daughter out and going to do the weekly shop when she comes round on a Saturday.

I try to be involved with my grandson but she makes it awkward. First she doesn't let him sleep in our living room, but then she suggests going for a coffee with my son, and wants me to babysit??? I told my son that we aren't there to babysit just so they can have fun.That is not what being a parent is about!

I just don't know what to do...I wish my son wasn't in this position. He is still very immature for his age. I think it's all too much for him to cope with. When his girlfriend was pregnant, I asked the school to let all his teachers know the situation, so they would be aware of the stress he was under when he was doing his exams/...but they said they couldnt because the girl was at the same school and she was their priority....I feel like my son has been overlooked from day one, but he needed just as much help!

Where do we go next?

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AdoraBell · 28/11/2015 23:50

So he is intelligent but couldn't work out that using a condom could have prevented him from making his under age girlfriend pregnant? Because she didn't do it all by herself.

And as a new mother she doesn't trust animals around her new baby? She is doing a good job of taking care of her baby. I have dogs, they are gentle, caring and would probably never hurt anyone, but I wouldn't leave a baby unattended with them roaming the house.

You ask where do we go. Who is "we"?

Samcro · 28/11/2015 23:50

dear op
if your ds was over 16 and the gf wasn't
guess what??

he was in the wrong.

AdjustableWench · 28/11/2015 23:51

This is why I'm bringing up my kids to be gay. They can have as much teen sex as they like, but procreation will take careful planning.

FlipperDipper2 · 28/11/2015 23:51

A walk with a coat and blanket is fine, going far on a bus is fine (great even - new experiences and all that), co-sleeping is fine and very natural as long as she's not a drug user.

Rescue animals are unpredictable - especially timid ones - and there are many health reasons to not let a baby sleep near any animals.

You haven't told me one thing about her that makes me think she's a bad person. She sounds like a good mother.

A few of the things you say about your son make me think he's not very bright and definitely not responsible.

You don't sound like you're being very nice to them (refusing babysitting, judging her) and you sound VERY controlling. I hope they set up house away from you. It's not up to you to say they're 'too young' - they are adults and they have a child.

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BlueBananas · 28/11/2015 23:52

You keep repeating that your son is immature and naive
This is obviously because you still look at him and treat him like a 5 year old
He is an adult and a father
Back off, let him make his own decisions and live his own life and start being a grown up
He wants to get a job and support his family and you're discouraging this?! Wtf?!! Hmm!
He's not mummy's little boy anymore, cut the apron strings and let him man up

Decide4Yourself · 28/11/2015 23:52

How old is the baby?

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WaitrosePigeon · 28/11/2015 23:53

I know I'm knew here so I don't know anything about anything but am I too naive about stuff? This could be a real person and if we all pile in and chastise her it could really upset an already tense situation. Sorry if I'm rambling or being very dense about the Internet..

WaitrosePigeon · 28/11/2015 23:54

*new here! Knew! What awful spelling!

LucyBabs · 28/11/2015 23:55

Tony Grin tit kick, love it!

worriedgran57 · 28/11/2015 23:56

Im not religious or anything, so why shouldn't I say shag?! I have had sex before marriage myself, which is why I think it is better to wait! I was engaged to a man who broke my heart before I met my husband, and i was very stupid! Thats why I don't think people whould just jump into these things. If my son had listened to me his life would be different now wouldn't it

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WitchSharkadder · 28/11/2015 23:56

What BlueBananas said.

Stop talking as if your son is a poor, tiny, vulnerable child. He's an ADULT and a father too. His level of maturity is tough shit, he needs to man up and do his best to provide a stable and loving home for his child and you have to to keep your opinions on his girlfriend to yourself. Not that she's done anything wrong, she sounds like a new mum muddling through (like we all did) and doing a good job.

PurpleDaisies · 28/11/2015 23:56

i'm sorry but no bright student who suddenly drops their grade would go unnoticed by teachers, regardless of the reason. Someone would have asked your son what was going on. Did he never mention the fact his girlfriend was pregnant to anyone?

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worriedgran57 · 28/11/2015 23:58

I don't know why people are saying I am lying. I came on here because my friend uses mumsnet and she said it is very good for all sorts of advice, and so far I have only had people telling me I am lying or that I am treating my son like a baby...

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cowbag1 · 28/11/2015 23:59

But instead of pushing some stupid message about sex before marriage, why did you not tell him to always wear a condom, regardless of what his sexual partner tells him? You've wasted your time on giving him the wrong sex ed advice and it's too unrealistic, which is why he didn't listen to you!

worriedgran57 · 28/11/2015 23:59

purple daisies, he didn't drop his grade, he was doing well but when the pregnancy came out, it was right before study leave and he didn't revise for his final exams due to stress. He got a B in one subject and then two Ds

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Crazypetlady · 29/11/2015 00:00

Also by the tone of your posts I don't think the school are the ones that need to support your son more.

QforCucumber · 29/11/2015 00:01

If your son had just worn a condom and been educated on the consequences of unprotected sex you'd still be as you were.
I'm 28, not married, been sexual active since 17 - until this year (5 year relationship) never been pregnant (bar mmc 2 years ago) education on these things Is key - not waiting until marriage.

Casperthefriendlyspook · 29/11/2015 00:02

I'm afraid your son can't be both immature & naïve, but also responsible for a child. You paint this girl as a temptress, manipulating and tricking him, but he chose to put himself into that situation. Many people are married, working full time, even fighting for their country at 17.
Give them the support and space they need. Otherwise I fear you will lose your son and grandchild.