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My sons girlfriend is a problem!!!!!

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worriedgran57 · 28/11/2015 22:46

This is my first time on mumsnet so I hope I am doing it properly!! Hope you don't mind a gran asking for advice!

My son is with a girlfriend who is 17. She fell pregnant right before she was 16!! They had only been together 6 months. My son was just finishing his A levels and it was a very worrying time. He is a very smart boy, his IQ is very high and we were hoping he would go to Oxford or Cambridge.

He didn't do well in his exams. Studying went to pot, because he was of course so worried about his girlfriend!

Now I know she is still young, but she is very manipulative. She told my son she had problems with her period, so he thought she couldn't get pregnant...clearly that wasn't the case!

Since the baby (a little boy) came along, my son has had to resit some exams. He has been so stressed at the behaviour of this girl. She seems to want him to get a job, but in the long run going to university would be a better option. I told him that he needn't think he will be playing happy families with his girldfriend and the baby because he has his education to think of....he is only a boy. They are both too young to set up home together!

I also have a 14 year old daughter and I don't think this girl is a good influence....she used to go out with her friends a lot before the baby was born,sometimes not coming home until 11pm at night....she invited my daughter out a few times but I didn't allow her...it's not so much the girl herself, it's her friends I am worried about!

This girl has been allowed to do whatever she wants...taking the train to the city for the day. staying out, going on holiday with people her parents barely know....

She isn't a bad mother but she is careless...last month she took the baby out a 2 mile walk in the pram with only a coat and a thin blanket on. She takes him miles away on the bus, he sleeps in her bed....I know they are just little things but he has no routine or stability in my opinion

She is rude about our house...we have 6 cats and 3 dogs and she told my son she didn't want to let the baby sleep in his cot in the living room because she felt he was unsafe near the animals! My animals would never hurt anyone, they are rescues and very gentle and timid....she thinks our house is dirty. OK it might smell a bit catty but it is not dirty! She also refused to sit in the living room with the baby when my husband was watching TV, she said the show was too violent...

I don't feel comfortable in my own home when she visits with the baby, I have got into the habit of taking my daughter out and going to do the weekly shop when she comes round on a Saturday.

I try to be involved with my grandson but she makes it awkward. First she doesn't let him sleep in our living room, but then she suggests going for a coffee with my son, and wants me to babysit??? I told my son that we aren't there to babysit just so they can have fun.That is not what being a parent is about!

I just don't know what to do...I wish my son wasn't in this position. He is still very immature for his age. I think it's all too much for him to cope with. When his girlfriend was pregnant, I asked the school to let all his teachers know the situation, so they would be aware of the stress he was under when he was doing his exams/...but they said they couldnt because the girl was at the same school and she was their priority....I feel like my son has been overlooked from day one, but he needed just as much help!

Where do we go next?

OP posts:
mix56 · 30/11/2015 16:31

Blame aside, the baby is here now. I don't understand why the baby isn't being cared for the boy when girl at school. as he isn't working.
If he had a job, he should be paying part of it to the girl, however, she cannot then decide he cannot see the baby.
If he cannot see the baby, why is she entitled to refuse his access to Uni ? as she doesn't want to live with him, & doesn't want to marry him. I'm assuming this her parents intervention, clearly he hasn't been much use so far, they must think it best if he would just disappear
She is planning to go to Uni eventually.
Maybe he should work, & co parent, until they both go to Uni & co parent ???

WorzelsCornyBrows · 30/11/2015 18:03

OP you need to come to terms with the fact that your DS is a disappointment to you in every way and stop blaming this girl for the fact he is feckless.

Oh and for the record, one teacher suggesting he might be Oxbridge material a few years ago doesn't actually mean he is/was. I had a teacher say that about me once or twice and I'm most certainly not.

Deal with the reality not the fantasy.

blytheandsebastian · 30/11/2015 18:32

What a great guy needsasock. In a way it's a pity the dynamics were wrong for you to be a family. He sounds like a catch.

Senpai · 30/11/2015 22:50

Yeah... I'm going to go out on a limb here. The idiot didn't know how basic biology or how to use a simple condom. This kid isn't Oxbridge material. Grin

IonaNE · 30/11/2015 23:29

So your son committed statutory rape and got an underage girl pregnant.
She had told her she had "problems with her periods" from which he thought she could not get pregnant. No, OP, he is not Oxbridge material.
No one in their right mind would let a baby sleep unsupervised in a room with 6 cats and 3 dogs, all rescues.
Who exactly watches violent tv programmes in your house?
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However, I don't agree with the posters who say "being a grandparent is about helping" and that she should babysit, etc. The decision to get his gf pregnant was the OP's son's, as an adult. The OP did not ask to be made a grandparent and has no obligation to babysit etc. Exactly because her son is an adult and has to take responsibility for his actions. The OP can help, babysit etc. if she so wishes, but she does not have to.

BlueMoonRising · 01/12/2015 06:42

Iona, while you are correct in saying that being a grandparent isn't a choice, the op has complained that she isn't getting to bond with the baby, but she won't babysit when asked for basically nonsensical reasons, (won't babysit when it's convenient for the mother.. Ehhh??)

Cutting nose off to spite face comes to mind.

DirtyBlonde · 01/12/2015 07:31

"So your son committed statutory rape and got an underage girl pregnant."

That term is not used in English law. And, as he was under 18, it's highly unlikely he'd be prosecuted anyhow. If he was, the charge is more likely to be unlawful sexual contact with a minor (as she consented in fact, though not able to do so in law).

Utterlyclueless · 01/12/2015 08:11

Dirtyblonde he would be placed on the Sex offenders register for Atleast one year though if the girl ever did go ahead to the police

Ledkr · 02/12/2015 07:23

It very much depends on the girls competency. With the age gap and age of the children it's unlikely there would be a prosecution.

Kaytee1987 · 03/12/2015 21:34

I'm sorry your son slept with a 15 year old child and got her pregnant, yet she's to blame. Shes looking after the baby the best she can and has asked the father to step up financially. Quite rightly she doesn't let her baby sleep in a room with that many animals that she's not even familiar with. Your son needs to get a job and look after his responsibilities and thank his lucky stars the girls parents didn't report him to the police.

Tate15 · 03/12/2015 22:11

Where for art thou op?

mum2mum99 · 03/12/2015 22:53

Wake up OP! You have failed your son in not explaining clearly basic biology and consent or he is already clearly a master manipulator expert at manipulating YOU!
Blame is not the answer even though I am truly shocked. You just need to open your eyes see that he would be better to support your son in what he is having to go through now. If you don't you might loose him as well as your grandson and his mother. He now comes as a package.
Flowers to you for having to grieve the dreams you had for him. But all is not lost he still has a lifetime in front of him and your support could make a huge difference. My life only truly began after 40.

harveybristol · 04/12/2015 19:07

You would do good in butting out of their lives and allowing them to get on with what they're doing.

Good on her for not allowing HER baby to sleep in a room full of animals.

I actually can't believe what I'm reading here.

yolofish · 12/01/2016 22:24

would love to know what happened??

david8341 · 15/01/2016 14:16

I don't believe this is real. No one can be this awful. If you're real then news flash you're a terrible person and your son is an imbecile.

You and your idiot son are damn lucky that he's not had charges brought against him or been picked up by the party boys and given the beating of his life. From your description it sounds like the girl is being really reasonable and doing a decent job..and you're trying to make her sound bad so she's probably Super Mum.

Saltfish · 15/01/2016 14:37

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My sons girlfriend is a problem!!!!!
mum2mum99 · 15/01/2016 14:47

He is a golden child, he can do no wrong. When wrong is committed it has to be someone else.

Pidapie · 15/01/2016 15:31

Meh!!! Don't even know what to reply to this, please read your post again too see that yabu and a little yanbu too.

MyFavouriteClintonisGeorge · 15/01/2016 15:41

Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind, OP.

CantWaitforWarmWeather · 15/01/2016 21:15

Saltfish
Hopefully there is a meme like that about daughters too :)

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