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She wants another baby. I can't.

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NumberTwelve · 17/08/2015 21:59

Not sure why I'm here tbh.

My wife and I, both mid thirties, have been married for a little over a year, together for nearly five, and have a daughter who is just over two years old.

From my previous marriage, I also have a son, who is 8. My boy was born brain damaged, and is non-communicative, can't walk very at all, and has a few other related illnesses. He's a wonderful boy, happy, fun loving, and affectionate. But clearly given his disabilities, looking after him is frequently challenging, and often heartbreaking. I have him for tea and take him home to put him to bed twice midweek, with at least one over night stay at the weekend, sometimes two. I'm very lucky to have such great access, and a good relationship with his mum.

My wife is set on another baby. Until now, my conveyed opinion has at best been "I'd be happy if we don't and happy if we do". Non-committal, and somewhat untruthful. Often I've said I don't want one, but it's soon been upgraded back to Non-committal to protect her feeling.

I don't want another baby, and told her so this evening. Because of her shifts, I'm often left with both kids on my own, and whilst I absolutely love it, it's very hard work, balancing their two very different needs emotionally, medically, and from a dependency perspective. I just couldn't cope with another one thrown into the mix. My son is only going to get bigger, heavier, more dependent on me, and I'll always be there for him. My little girl is the light of my life, and I love the time I'm able to spend with her. The precious time I have with both would obviously be diluted with another child. Allied to that, I frankly couldn't cope with the three of them on my own, which would happen quite frequently.

An additional barrier is financial. We plain old can't afford another baby. We have a nice life, decent income, but the last week of every month is always very tight. Granted, one might say we waste money early in the month, but I would say we enjoy a decent quality of life. The added financial burden would make the whole month like that last week. I feel we both work too hard and too long to go through that.

My wife very, very rarely has both my son and our daughter alone, and when she does its for no more than an hour. Despite my telling her, I don't think she truly realises how difficult my life can be with the two kids I've got. Rewarding, obviously - but very much at the limit of what I can cope with.

She's just driven off to be alone. I know that what I've just told her has broken her heart. I know that in many ways it's selfish. But it's not a subject that families can truly compromise on, is it? One party is forced to accept something that they don't want.

I've tried to want a third child, but I just can't. I'm so happy with how things are - difficulties notwithstanding - that I just can't actively want that to change.

It kills me that I'm doing this to her, and I fully expect to be the bad guy on here. I don't really know why I'm writing. Just a sounding board I guess.

Cam a woman ever recover from this? Will she leave me? Is not wanting a baby anymore selfish than wanting one?

Thanks for reading. Abuse away.

OP posts:
Jdee41 · 18/08/2015 18:56

Waltermitty

Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was getting at you.

I don't think either the OP or his wife deserve criticism, as it is a really tough situation, and a hard decision for both. You're right to call out anyone who is being harsh on his wife as that is totally unfair.

Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 19:01
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bettyberry · 18/08/2015 19:04

No abuse from me either. I have a boy with challenging behaviour (no physical disability) but It is still so very hard the thought of another child with his needs is too much to comprehend.

Some people can handle it all. The pressure of it and have loads of kids, the energy to look after them even with disability into the mix.

I feel you are like me. You know what you can handle and that is OK.

StanSmithsChin · 18/08/2015 19:04

I haven't seen any posts criticising the wife but I have seen "shoe on other foot" posts which I think are perfectly reasonable. If OP was a women he would not have received so many vile assumptions and attacks on his character. Which is very telling of the posters who chose not only to hold that disgusting opinion but also chose to hit their point home many many times by name calling and generally being shameful.

TheHoneyBadger · 18/08/2015 19:04

to be honest you'd likely need to ask for the whole thread to be pulled - there are posts where other people also follow your lead and use your children's names so it's a lot to trawl through editing or deleting. can you copy it so you have it if you want it and then you could start another thread with same title part 2 if for some reason you wanted to continue (rather you than me).

you might also consider putting a second post in the SN section where it wouldn't take pages and pages before half the people even vaguely considered what it might entail to care for a child who is severely disabled.

StanSmithsChin · 18/08/2015 19:05

you might also consider putting a second post in the SN section where it wouldn't take pages and pages before half the people even vaguely considered what it might entail to care for a child who is severely disabled.

Good advice OP.

itsraininginbaltimore · 18/08/2015 19:07

slithy am I hallucinating or did you seriously suggest that some sort of 'solution' to this problem would be for the OP to stay overnight with his ex and her new partner two or three nights a week? Confused

Superexcited · 18/08/2015 19:08

The op has already explained why that wouldn't work every week

If that was in response to my suggestions about making contact more flexible to fit in with his wife's shift pattern:
He explained why he didn't want to change the current arrangement of set days each week, he didn't say that it wasn't possible and he even said that his ex wife would probably be amenable to more flexible contact arrangements. If things are so wearing and so difficult then it makes sense to change them where possible in order to make things easier which will probably also make contact more enjoyable and less stressful.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 19:09

No12. If you have taken all you can from the thread, it might be worth asking for the whole thing to be deleted. Many posters, me included have used your kids names.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 19:12

You are hallucinating raining. Or you just can't read.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 19:12

And nor was the post you are referring to, offered as any sort of solution to the op not wanting another baby.

TheHoneyBadger · 18/08/2015 19:17

'if things are so wearing and so difficult' - IF? no it's a peace of piss driving 45 minutes to collect a severely disabled child with another child in the car, drive them all the way home again, deal with said disabled child whilst also looking after needs of a toddler, cooking food etc and then going and driving the son back for 45 minutes twice in the week on top of a full time job.

IF ffs.

DixieNormas · 18/08/2015 19:17

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 19:19

Deletion is probably the best idea. I have found, and will doubtless continue to find, the polarised opinion useful. If there's no objections, I'll start another, sanitised version?

OP posts:
Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 19:21

And do post in SN, Number. You'll have infinite support there.

amarmai · 18/08/2015 19:21

neither IAm, nor Bath, nor myself has called any one names. OTOH you Stan have called all of us names because we see the point of view of the wife who has no voice here and you want to silence those of us who are speaking on her behalf. She had no say when the op married her and did not tell her until he was forced to, that he had no intention of having a 2nd child with her. Apparently she is supposed to accept being lied to on this most important matter and say nothing. We are apparently supposed to accept your abuse of us and and say nothing.

Offred · 18/08/2015 19:21

Doubt there will be an objection to that!

TheHoneyBadger · 18/08/2015 19:23

go for it and hopefully you'll shake off the bullies

slithytove · 18/08/2015 19:23

Sounds good no12. Do think copying this into a (passworded?) word document or an email might be handy so you can refer back? In between the sniping there were some good suggestions.

I do think that tax credits are worth you looking at, and putting in a few different calculations to see what works for you. It's possible you could drop a shift and make up the difference in tax credits. I don't know.

Superexcited · 18/08/2015 19:24

honeybadger I have a severely disabled child who I spend 3 hours each school day driving to and from his special school, often with another child in the car. I prepare all his breakfasts, packed lunches and dinners which have to be allergen free. I also look after him by myself until DH gets home and I do all of the care by myself during the school holidays. I know what it is fucking like being worn down by a severely disabled child. But hey why not just pick up on the semantics of my post rather than the fact I was trying to offer a way of reducing some of the stress!

FyreFly · 18/08/2015 19:24

NumberTwelve I'm afraid I can't offer any real advice as I have never been in this situation, but I just wanted to say I have been incredibly impressed with how you have handled yourself in the face of what are some of the most shocking posts I have ever seen on MN. You have had to put up with some truly disgusting accusations being flung at you and you should never have had to do that. I do hope that this will not put you off posting in future, but perhaps maybe avoid relationships next time and post in SN as others have suggested.

I wish you all the luck in the world - my heart goes out to you AND your wife, it really does :( This is a horrible situation and however it plays out, someone will be losing out.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 19:24

It's pretty bullying to accuse someone of suggesting using benefits to have another child honey.

Don't recall you backtracking on that one?

DixieNormas · 18/08/2015 19:24

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Superexcited · 18/08/2015 19:25

Oh and when my child gets his two nights a month respite he has 2 carers solely looking after him as that is the minimum requirement given his level of need, but I cope on my fucking own!

StanSmithsChin · 18/08/2015 19:26

amarmai You called the OP a tricky bastard. I know that because I still have the deletion e-mail that I recieved after I reported you so yeah you did call him names.

I have said the posts were vile and disgusting and that I am disgusted with said posters. If you have a problem with my posts the report me. I am sure MNHQ will delete if they agree.

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