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She wants another baby. I can't.

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NumberTwelve · 17/08/2015 21:59

Not sure why I'm here tbh.

My wife and I, both mid thirties, have been married for a little over a year, together for nearly five, and have a daughter who is just over two years old.

From my previous marriage, I also have a son, who is 8. My boy was born brain damaged, and is non-communicative, can't walk very at all, and has a few other related illnesses. He's a wonderful boy, happy, fun loving, and affectionate. But clearly given his disabilities, looking after him is frequently challenging, and often heartbreaking. I have him for tea and take him home to put him to bed twice midweek, with at least one over night stay at the weekend, sometimes two. I'm very lucky to have such great access, and a good relationship with his mum.

My wife is set on another baby. Until now, my conveyed opinion has at best been "I'd be happy if we don't and happy if we do". Non-committal, and somewhat untruthful. Often I've said I don't want one, but it's soon been upgraded back to Non-committal to protect her feeling.

I don't want another baby, and told her so this evening. Because of her shifts, I'm often left with both kids on my own, and whilst I absolutely love it, it's very hard work, balancing their two very different needs emotionally, medically, and from a dependency perspective. I just couldn't cope with another one thrown into the mix. My son is only going to get bigger, heavier, more dependent on me, and I'll always be there for him. My little girl is the light of my life, and I love the time I'm able to spend with her. The precious time I have with both would obviously be diluted with another child. Allied to that, I frankly couldn't cope with the three of them on my own, which would happen quite frequently.

An additional barrier is financial. We plain old can't afford another baby. We have a nice life, decent income, but the last week of every month is always very tight. Granted, one might say we waste money early in the month, but I would say we enjoy a decent quality of life. The added financial burden would make the whole month like that last week. I feel we both work too hard and too long to go through that.

My wife very, very rarely has both my son and our daughter alone, and when she does its for no more than an hour. Despite my telling her, I don't think she truly realises how difficult my life can be with the two kids I've got. Rewarding, obviously - but very much at the limit of what I can cope with.

She's just driven off to be alone. I know that what I've just told her has broken her heart. I know that in many ways it's selfish. But it's not a subject that families can truly compromise on, is it? One party is forced to accept something that they don't want.

I've tried to want a third child, but I just can't. I'm so happy with how things are - difficulties notwithstanding - that I just can't actively want that to change.

It kills me that I'm doing this to her, and I fully expect to be the bad guy on here. I don't really know why I'm writing. Just a sounding board I guess.

Cam a woman ever recover from this? Will she leave me? Is not wanting a baby anymore selfish than wanting one?

Thanks for reading. Abuse away.

OP posts:
MorrisZapp · 18/08/2015 15:31

OP, do you mind me asking if you are looking for hints or support on making your current set up easier?

Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 15:32

That's a shame, Number.

I really do feel for you all. Wine

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 15:33

My wife and I aren't entitled to any benefits due to the part time nature of my parentage to the boy. It is somewhat annoying tbf, given that he's in my car more than anybody else's, but I'm not the one with a motability option available, but that's largely irrelevant really.

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slithytove · 18/08/2015 15:33

Didn't say disability benefits, said benefits.

Meaning have they checked, would they get more help if their childcare costs were greater, would they get equivalent money if either of them reduced hours. Not everyone does all possible calculations.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 15:34

Walter, people are just reading what they want to read, not what's there. Why not take the time instead of jumping on people trying to help?

Doesn't help op, doesn't make me want to post, makes me feel shit. Why do it.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 15:34

I'm obviously talking about the posters in question, not you Walter.

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 15:34

Morris, I'll listen to anything, but the chances of me not having already considered it at length are slim.

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Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 15:34

Why do it?

Because it's MN! Grin

slithytove · 18/08/2015 15:35

No ctc or wtc to help with childcare for your youngest op? Nothing if your childcare costs increased? How much is she in childcare each week?

Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 15:36

Number would it be easier if your ex dropped son to you and you brought him home?

Again, NOT for another child. Just because it sounds so shit for you!

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 15:36

Sorry, what are ctc/wtc?

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Offred · 18/08/2015 15:38

Your wife does have a right to ask for fixed shifts and can't be refused unless it is unreasonable for it to be accommodated.

This is not about planning for another baby btw. I think you are worried if you make things more manageable then you'll b pushed into another DC. It shouldn't be about that. You should stand firm if it is remains how you feel. You still need to do something about the present.

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 15:39

Number would it be easier if your ex dropped son to you and you brought him home?

Immeasurably! And tbh I've probably been a soft touch on that for too long. But no matter how amicable you are with your ex, as an absent father (urgg) you're always exceptionally weary of doing or saying anything that may rock the boat. As paranoid and poorly informed as that is.

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Lictionary · 18/08/2015 15:39

Child tax credit / working tax credit

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NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 15:42

Again, fixed shifts are a confirmed impossibility unfortunately

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GraysAnalogy · 18/08/2015 15:43

Your wife does have a right to ask for fixed shifts and can't be refused unless it is unreasonable for it to be accommodated

The law says this but put into practice... pah. Annoying really. Lots of my colleagues have requested fixed shifts, no-one ever gets them granted. NHS btw

Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 15:44

But it is perhaps worth asking? Ex may show willing and you would benefit immeasurably from it as you say!

I don't think anyone could accuse you of not caring because you're not there 24/7. And you're certainly not absent!!!

Offred · 18/08/2015 15:44

Yes, of course you can ask for fixed shifts!

It doesn't necessarily make for time tabling nightmares, not more so that having random shift patterns where it is a struggle to even get people into work!

ExConstance · 18/08/2015 15:44

Goodness this thread has moved on very quickly. Full sibling means children with the same parents, the only way OPs DD can get one is if her parents have another.

A wife should never feel that everyone else in her husband's life has priority over her. Sometimes children have to come first, their education and welfare may have prior calls on funding. Sometimes partner has to come first, maybe in some families children do not get to go on holiday so parents can have time together for example. It is all a bit give and take but the woman you chose as your life partner should not invariably come last - children grow up and leave ( in most families) your wife should be with you forever. If you were to feel that your wishes and desires were totally bottom of the pile without consideration then you might as well leave.

Offred · 18/08/2015 15:46

There are plenty of HCPs on fixed shifts in my local NHS. Some trusts will likely be better at this than others. But anyway, op says his wife has already asked and been refused.

Lictionary · 18/08/2015 15:50

If you have a child with complex care needs then I think you can ask for set shifts.

I have some good friends who have a son with severe and complex health needs due to birth injury. Including epilepsy and cerebral palsy, G tube, non verbal. They were in their 20s when he was born and have gone on to have two more sons who are younger. When they were very little then it was hard fucking work and they were frequently skating on thin ice financially but now that they are 3, 5 and about 16 the younger two entertain each other. Which is a blessing many regards particularly as the oldest has spent more and more time in hospital and his needs have increased.

There is funding for siblings of children with disabilities to attend nursery from 2. Do you access that? However over the next 5 years there will be fewer and fewer funds available and food and housing will increase.

AmeliaNeedsHelp · 18/08/2015 15:50

OP, have you looked at www.turn2us.org.uk ? Apologies if you have already, but I wanted to share as it was a godsend when helping my sister sort out benefits. There's so many different kinds and it's very complicated for those of us with little experience. Sorry if I'm telling you stuff you already know.

MamaMary · 18/08/2015 15:51

NumberTwelve, for what it's worth, I sympathise with your decision, and think you come across as a kind and caring person.

Obviously my circumstances are not the same as yours - but I can somewhat relate to your position. My DH would love a third child and is very disappointed that I want to stop at two. I relate to the 'I couldn't cope' feeling. My health isn't great and two kids takes all my energy. I also feel that our finances would be stretched too much with another child (we could possibly cope, but only just).

I also feel for your wife. I think you guys really need to take a lot of time to talk this through. If it gets too heated just the two of you, then with a counsellor.

Good luck.