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She wants another baby. I can't.

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NumberTwelve · 17/08/2015 21:59

Not sure why I'm here tbh.

My wife and I, both mid thirties, have been married for a little over a year, together for nearly five, and have a daughter who is just over two years old.

From my previous marriage, I also have a son, who is 8. My boy was born brain damaged, and is non-communicative, can't walk very at all, and has a few other related illnesses. He's a wonderful boy, happy, fun loving, and affectionate. But clearly given his disabilities, looking after him is frequently challenging, and often heartbreaking. I have him for tea and take him home to put him to bed twice midweek, with at least one over night stay at the weekend, sometimes two. I'm very lucky to have such great access, and a good relationship with his mum.

My wife is set on another baby. Until now, my conveyed opinion has at best been "I'd be happy if we don't and happy if we do". Non-committal, and somewhat untruthful. Often I've said I don't want one, but it's soon been upgraded back to Non-committal to protect her feeling.

I don't want another baby, and told her so this evening. Because of her shifts, I'm often left with both kids on my own, and whilst I absolutely love it, it's very hard work, balancing their two very different needs emotionally, medically, and from a dependency perspective. I just couldn't cope with another one thrown into the mix. My son is only going to get bigger, heavier, more dependent on me, and I'll always be there for him. My little girl is the light of my life, and I love the time I'm able to spend with her. The precious time I have with both would obviously be diluted with another child. Allied to that, I frankly couldn't cope with the three of them on my own, which would happen quite frequently.

An additional barrier is financial. We plain old can't afford another baby. We have a nice life, decent income, but the last week of every month is always very tight. Granted, one might say we waste money early in the month, but I would say we enjoy a decent quality of life. The added financial burden would make the whole month like that last week. I feel we both work too hard and too long to go through that.

My wife very, very rarely has both my son and our daughter alone, and when she does its for no more than an hour. Despite my telling her, I don't think she truly realises how difficult my life can be with the two kids I've got. Rewarding, obviously - but very much at the limit of what I can cope with.

She's just driven off to be alone. I know that what I've just told her has broken her heart. I know that in many ways it's selfish. But it's not a subject that families can truly compromise on, is it? One party is forced to accept something that they don't want.

I've tried to want a third child, but I just can't. I'm so happy with how things are - difficulties notwithstanding - that I just can't actively want that to change.

It kills me that I'm doing this to her, and I fully expect to be the bad guy on here. I don't really know why I'm writing. Just a sounding board I guess.

Cam a woman ever recover from this? Will she leave me? Is not wanting a baby anymore selfish than wanting one?

Thanks for reading. Abuse away.

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SarfEasticatedMumma · 18/08/2015 14:19

Do you think it's all a bit odd that we're arguing the toss over a stranger's life? He seems to have disappeared anyway.

Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/08/2015 14:19

Owl - I am not trying to minimise what you are saying as I have a child with SN, though milder, myself... but it hasn't stopped his exwife having multiple children.

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 14:19

Can't/won't is just semantics. I wouldn't be able to cope with an additional child on top of my existing responsibilities and commitment. That's a can't. I also 'won't' compromise the love, care and attention that I'm able to (and need to) afford my children, by adding a third. I can't make more time, more effort, more strength or more money out of nowhere.

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slithytove · 18/08/2015 14:19

Four, you put it better than me.

I'm going to step away from this thread now as honestly I'm fucking distraught, I've never been treated like this here and I've not been nasty to the op once.

Owllady · 18/08/2015 14:19

You can't get childcare for severely disabled children, it's impossible
Honestly, it's impossible.
I've tried a variety over the years, none worked. That leave me and her dad.
That's life unfortunately.

Offred · 18/08/2015 14:20

And owllady - Sad but I completely agree.

GeorgeYeatsAutomaticWriter · 18/08/2015 14:20

You're 'fucking distraught' slithytove?

WTF? I think you need to lie down in a darkened room as well. Confused

Owllady · 18/08/2015 14:20

His ex wife is irrelevant. We know nothing about what support she receives outside of her own family unit.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 14:20

Op, I really, really hope you and your wife make it work for both of you somehow.

Another baby aside, maybe consider some of the suggestions made to make your life easier even now. Sounds like if you didn't have to deal with both kids at once alone it might help. I would also suggest counselling as you have a lot on your plate. Ditto if possible, an evening a week to yourself if you could manage it

Sorry for offering yet more solutions. Best of luck.

SkullyCat · 18/08/2015 14:21

He hasn't disappeared Sarf

One would assume as he's already told us he works full time that he's posting when he gets chance at work/on break.

Superexcited · 18/08/2015 14:21

Do you people have ANY fucking CLUE how emotionally, physically and mentally soul-suckingly exhausting caring for a disabled child

Yes, I do, I live that life every single day (well aside from the 2 nights a months respite).

Collaborate · 18/08/2015 14:22

How has OP duped his wife? How on earth can he commit to more than one child, other than say he's undecided, when he doesn't know how he'll cope with that child and his son? Now he knows the reality of his situation he's standing up for himself. Quite right.

Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/08/2015 14:22

Funny, then No12 that you used WANT for your wife but CAN'T for you.

YOu don't want another child. That is perfectly legitimate.

Now stop trying to blame anyone or anything else. man up and tell her.

ANd then chuck a huge toddler trantrum if she does anything other than suck it up and keep paying.

problem solved.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 14:22

Yeah, I am George.

I feel totally bullied if I'm honest and you are part of that. You might be a stranger on the internet but having my words so twisted to make me out to be a cunt is upsetting.

I've been completely and purposely misunderstood and treated like shit. Something I've not done to the op.

So I'm going, not to lie down in a darkened room, but thanks for the suggestion.

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 14:24

Slithy, there's no need for you to disappear. Your opinions and suggestions have been helpful, and your delivery polite. I've appreciated every response.

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Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/08/2015 14:24

Owl - I don't disagree with you. My son has pretty mild SN all things considered, and we struggle with childcare outside of the family.

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GraysAnalogy · 18/08/2015 14:25

slithy You're in a debate, no-one has called you names or attacked you Hmm and to be quite honest I don't think you've been nice to the OP by trying to insinuate that it's all just a choice for him, it's not a choice if factors as important as physical and emotional needs are forcing you to chose one option. You repeatedly ignored his feelings instead focusing on the financials.

Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 14:25

raining don't take one part of my post out of context and then start fucking and blinding out of you about it, there's a dear.

SarfEasticatedMumma · 18/08/2015 14:25

'SkullyCat Tue 18-Aug-15 14:21:34

He hasn't disappeared Sarf

One would assume as he's already told us he works full time that he's posting when he gets chance at work/on break.'

There is still a remarkable amount of emotion on this thread for someone who none of us know.

lotrben17 · 18/08/2015 14:25

i've rtft and think your position is completely understandable, can't add much to the comprehensive debate, it is sad though for all of you that you're not all on the same page and I hope you manage to work it out without splitting up.

Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/08/2015 14:26

Slithy - YOu are appreciated Everyone is. We can disagree or we can agree, but we all have a voice which needs to be heard. I am sure no12 values ALL the things he's read here, as they are ALL the things he needs to think about.

xxx

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