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She wants another baby. I can't.

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NumberTwelve · 17/08/2015 21:59

Not sure why I'm here tbh.

My wife and I, both mid thirties, have been married for a little over a year, together for nearly five, and have a daughter who is just over two years old.

From my previous marriage, I also have a son, who is 8. My boy was born brain damaged, and is non-communicative, can't walk very at all, and has a few other related illnesses. He's a wonderful boy, happy, fun loving, and affectionate. But clearly given his disabilities, looking after him is frequently challenging, and often heartbreaking. I have him for tea and take him home to put him to bed twice midweek, with at least one over night stay at the weekend, sometimes two. I'm very lucky to have such great access, and a good relationship with his mum.

My wife is set on another baby. Until now, my conveyed opinion has at best been "I'd be happy if we don't and happy if we do". Non-committal, and somewhat untruthful. Often I've said I don't want one, but it's soon been upgraded back to Non-committal to protect her feeling.

I don't want another baby, and told her so this evening. Because of her shifts, I'm often left with both kids on my own, and whilst I absolutely love it, it's very hard work, balancing their two very different needs emotionally, medically, and from a dependency perspective. I just couldn't cope with another one thrown into the mix. My son is only going to get bigger, heavier, more dependent on me, and I'll always be there for him. My little girl is the light of my life, and I love the time I'm able to spend with her. The precious time I have with both would obviously be diluted with another child. Allied to that, I frankly couldn't cope with the three of them on my own, which would happen quite frequently.

An additional barrier is financial. We plain old can't afford another baby. We have a nice life, decent income, but the last week of every month is always very tight. Granted, one might say we waste money early in the month, but I would say we enjoy a decent quality of life. The added financial burden would make the whole month like that last week. I feel we both work too hard and too long to go through that.

My wife very, very rarely has both my son and our daughter alone, and when she does its for no more than an hour. Despite my telling her, I don't think she truly realises how difficult my life can be with the two kids I've got. Rewarding, obviously - but very much at the limit of what I can cope with.

She's just driven off to be alone. I know that what I've just told her has broken her heart. I know that in many ways it's selfish. But it's not a subject that families can truly compromise on, is it? One party is forced to accept something that they don't want.

I've tried to want a third child, but I just can't. I'm so happy with how things are - difficulties notwithstanding - that I just can't actively want that to change.

It kills me that I'm doing this to her, and I fully expect to be the bad guy on here. I don't really know why I'm writing. Just a sounding board I guess.

Cam a woman ever recover from this? Will she leave me? Is not wanting a baby anymore selfish than wanting one?

Thanks for reading. Abuse away.

OP posts:
NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 13:39

Idiot (not being rude), do you have an understanding as to why I can't cope with another child? Or have you understood it and dismissed it?

OP posts:
Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 13:39

Perhaps your wife won't want to be married to someone who shuts down every single suggestion and refuses to budge on not wanting another child.

Perhaps she wants to see if there is someone out there who wants a family with her.

Perhaps your total disregard of her wants and needs means she feels differently about you.

That's not an ultimatum. That's a choice.

You've ignored several questions about how she is. Have you even asked her how she is?

DixieNormas · 18/08/2015 13:40

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MiddleAgedandConfused · 18/08/2015 13:40

Superexcited - OP isn't looking for solutions, just confirmation that he is right.

SkullyCat · 18/08/2015 13:41

I dont see how its anyone elses business how the OP's wife is.

We're dealing with the OP, he's the one asking for advice/help.

Funinthesun15 · 18/08/2015 13:41

Perhaps your total disregard of her wants and needs means she feels differently about you

Maybe the OP will see his wife differently for disregarding his wants and needs

Maryz · 18/08/2015 13:41

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Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/08/2015 13:41

GO on then No12 show it to her. YOu have supporters and you have detractors.

But, it would seem your detractors are those who are have some understanding of the pressures your wife is under. Your supporters seem to believe in some parallel universe where you actually tell your wife what you are planning to do (note: Not thinking, because you've already made your mind up... but even then you lack the courage to actually tell her.

BathtimeFunkster · 18/08/2015 13:42

OP isn't looking for solutions, just confirmation that he is right.

Yup.

DadWasHere · 18/08/2015 13:42

One of you is going to have to put the other first or the marriage will probably end.

Quite possibly. If his wife can accept (and I mean in the Zen sense of accept without it eating her out in bitterness like a canker) then the marriage would probably survive. On the other hand if he accepts to 'put her first' its not just a new chapter in their lives, its an entirely new book because something really big is added. We all love our kids and its impossible to imagine what our lives would be like had we not had them but, the way the world works, kids coming along have probably ended orders of magnitude more relationships than relationships have been preserved by adding kids to them.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 13:42

The complex needs of a baby, and my son, would be at the cost of our daughter. That's not fair.

Why would this be the case with your wife on maternity leave? Would she not pull her weight?

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 13:44

How is she? Quiet and withdrawn. She went straight to bed last night, I asked her if she wanted me to come up or give her space and she said she was just going to sleep. This morning I've told her that I love her, and she said it back, but understandably declined a hug. She's been out most of the day with our daughter.

I'm not sure why some have got the idea that I don't care for her. I'm heartbroken that I'm doing this to her. But I just can't have another child. I can't cope emotionally, practically, physically or financially.

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Bubblesinthesummer · 18/08/2015 13:44

refuses to budge on not wanting another child

'Refuses to budge'... he has as much right to say no to another child as his wife has to say she wants one.

Fairenuff · 18/08/2015 13:44

OP she will certainly be questioning whether you are the man she thought you were and whether she wants to stay with you. Not because you have done anything wrong, (if you don't want more children, you don't, that's fine) but because you now want different things.

On the surface she may seem accepting of this but you can bet she is devastated and will be considering her options.

How is she now? Has she said anything more about it?

MagalyMaman · 18/08/2015 13:44

OP, are you terrified that the same thing might happen again? My second child has what is considered an SN (although he is an absolute dote and a joy) but if I'd had him first not second I think I would have been much more scared bringing more children in to the world.

You are not wrong, but your wife isn't wrong either.

I do think she's got the short end of the stick here somehow. Perhaps your resolute determination will be the deal breaker for her (rather than the specific issue of another child).

She should see somebody, to help her decide what to do next.

GraysAnalogy · 18/08/2015 13:44

If I didn't want another baby then you could shove all the solutions in the world in my face, sorry but no.

You can have as much help as you can get, it doesn't change the fact there's another person there who needs your time, love, energy, money when you're already feeling short.

Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 13:44

Maybe the OP will see his wife differently for disregarding his wants and needs

But she hasn't, has she? She's just been told that he doesn't want another child that she thought they were going to have. I don't see anywhere where she has complained about contributing to his son or completely disregarded his feelings but people are acting like she has!

Bizarre.

Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/08/2015 13:45

For the love of the lord!!

NO child should come ahead of a partner.

NO partner should contribute to another child (not theirs) ahead of their own.

Simple as.

NO ONE is saying that the OP should have a child to the detriment of his DS. But, lots of people are implying that the wife should work to pay for this DS while sucking it up because OP doesn't need the hassle of another child (which by all I've read IS affordable with a little work)

AGAIN, I will say, no one can or should be forced to have a child, but neither should an adult be treated in this way while being expected to work to fund others lifestlyes.

The wife, at very least, should be given the coice to leave.

NumberTwelve · 18/08/2015 13:46

The complex needs of a baby, and my son, would be at the cost of our daughter. That's not fair.

Why would this be the case with your wife on maternity leave? Would she not pull her weight?

*of course she would, she's a wonderful mother. But we'd be unable to afford much more than six months maternity leave.

OP posts:
Iamatotalandutteridiot · 18/08/2015 13:46

Bah! SOrry - no partner should come ahead of a child.

Sorry!!!

thehypocritesoaf · 18/08/2015 13:47

I don't think the op is seeking confirmation he is 'right' at all.

There are times when both partners are 'right'. Their feelings are valid and reasonable.

There doesn't always have to be a baddie, does there?

GeorgeYeatsAutomaticWriter · 18/08/2015 13:47

But I just can't have another child. I can't cope emotionally, practically, physically or financially.

If a woman posted that, how many of you would be trying to convince her she was wrong? And unfair on her DH?

Waltermittythesequel · 18/08/2015 13:47

he has as much right to say no to another child as his wife has to say she wants one

I think this is the crux of it for me. Some people seem determined to paint the wife as wrong so OP can be right.

Neither of them are wrong. It's sad all round really.

MiddleAgedandConfused · 18/08/2015 13:47

OP - you seem smart enough to know that the only way to deal with this is to talk to your wife. Nobody on MN can fix this.

I think your posts would upset her because they are so focused on your needs and what you want. You seem to have very little regard for her feelings or needs. I am not saying that the solution is to have a child, just that the way that you are looking at this seems to only consider what is best for you personally, not what is best for the family as a whole.

slithytove · 18/08/2015 13:47

Super has said what I have been saying and you keep ignoring op.

PLEASE ANSWER. Sorry for caps, want to get your attention!

While you put up objections like three at once, unfair to daughter, finances - all of these have solutions. When you ignore or dismiss those solutions, it gives the impression you don't want any.

If you don't want another child, end of, that is ok. Valid, justified. Your wife will have to figure out how she feels. But it is CRUEL to give her reasons why not, when she could potentially solve those reasons. Please don't give her hope if there is none.