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Expectations: Step-children EVERY weekend

156 replies

Smurfette86 · 02/08/2015 10:25

I'm honestly a little bit worried to be posting on this topic, based on some previous threads I've read through - but hey, I'm going to put myself out there because I need some different and honest perspectives.

I'm 29, and I've been together with my defacto for 7 years now.
When we first began dating (I at age 22, he at age 32), he had his two daughters (then 8 and 11) every second weekend, and Thursdays on alternate weeks. This arrangement worked fine, apart from that he worked on Saturdays and I would be left alone with the responsibility of looking after them until he returned home; which I discussed with him was unfair in light that he had sisters or his mother who could look after them, or his ex, who was unemployed. I was told that it was 'only the Saturday' and that 'they're young - they don't take much to look after'.

None-the-less, this care arrangement continued until about 3 years ago when the girl's mother gained casual retail employment, and my partner asked that we have the girls Thursday through to Monday morning each week for 'a little bit' to help her transition back to work. This was fine with me - in fact, I was super-willing because I was glad she was able to find work, and thought this might give her an activity which took up time that she would otherwise direct at her passive-aggressive meddling.

After 6 months or so I discussed scaling the visits back to every-other weekend, resulting in a 'what is wrong with you?' argument where I was made to feel like a monster.

In part, the reason attributed to their ages (then 12 and 15) - where they were messy, combative and bitchy with each other. The younger had frequent temper tantrums and a (well joked about by the family) "diva attitude". While I understand the developmental stage of the ages, and have been very patient with mediating the ongoing behaviour, it's simply exhausting to work Monday to Friday in a stressful corporate job and then spend my 'down time' dealing with more stress. I would start the following week at work more drained - and then the ensuing week of stress would pile on, and then the next weekend would come without release....
I tried to explain very reasonably to my partner that this stress was impacting on my diagnosed anxiety (which my partner is aware of) to which the response was that I 'blew things out of proportion' and 'needed to look at the big picture'.

Another factor was that as an on-call firefighter, my partner would frequently be paged away to incidents, and either be absent from the house in the only family car for hours at a time - or, he would be called away in the middle of a lunch while dining out, or in the middle of grocery shopping, and then I would be left, stranded with irritable and hormonal girls scrapping at each other until he returned. Often, I would try to explain to him that he didn't see a lot of the activity because he simply wasn't around a lot, and that, if he wasn't willing to book himself off for the weekend; that I felt that it was unfair for him to expect the girls to be here every weekend with the knowledge that he wouldn't be home with them to have quality time for the majority. When he is home, they sit on the couch and watch television, or all three of them sit glued to their individual i-Pad/mobile phone/laptop. Or in honesty, as an on-call firefighter, he takes time during the afternoon to nap on the couch, and isn't even awake.

The last factor is the case that I was aware that the girl's mother only worked for 15 hours a week, and of that, only 4 hours on a Saturday, with no employment on the Sundays. I tried to explain that in light of the other factors, why it couldn't be arranged for the girls to have alternate weekends with their mother as it wouldn't be the case that they would be sitting at home alone; their mother would be home with them. Being that the girls are at school during the week, it suprised me that their mother wouldn't want to have time during the weekend to be able to spend with them.

Yes, I know that I made a choice to have a relationship with a man who has children, and I feel that I've done a lot to foster a welcoming, nuturing environment where they want for nothing and have every opportunity available to them.

I don't necessarily agree with the notion that 'I've made my bed and have to lay in it' - in the sense that just because my partner has children means that I need to resign all my own entitlement to enjoy some 'child-free' weekends. I think just as I make compromises, that my partner should be more flexible in reaching a compromise for the things that are important to me too. The girl's mother frequently posts facebook updates about how she's 'enjoying a peaceful lazy sunday' or 'looking forward to tonight (Saturday)! Not like I have anything I have to get up early for tomorrow! drinks on me!' -

I don't understand how I sacrifice every weekend (my only down time) when their mother - who made the choices to have children - and who has 4 days every week "down time" where she gets her nails done, gets massages etc - seemingly gets to enjoy the social freedom of elective parental responsibility. It feels like role-reversal and I think this is very unfair. I've offered my partner for him to have the girls on two different days (eg have them on Wednesday and Thursday night) on alternate weekends, instead of the Friday and Saturday night - (returning to mom on the Sunday evening) but this hasn't happened.
I've even gotten to a point where I've said that I'd handle three weekends a month, just in desperation to know that I have that 'breathing space' for one weekend out of four - but the response is 'i'll think about it' and it doesn't eventuate.

After 3 years of this, I'm at a point where I don't know that I can stay in the relationship because of how drained I am, and how de-prioritised I feel. All I can think is that 'you only live once' - and I don't want a life where I constantly feel exhausted and taken advantage of while the girls biological parents skirt most of the responsibility. Am I being unreasonable? What should I do?

OP posts:
SlaggyIsland · 02/08/2015 16:21

And that, right there, is the thanks that step parents get for years of hard work and free childcare provision.

Bonsoir · 02/08/2015 16:23

Quuenofwands - children don't get to choose where they live: their parents choose!

DixieNormas · 02/08/2015 16:24

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Queenofwands · 02/08/2015 16:26

An 18 year old is not a child... and a fifteen year old is a young woman. She is not looking after them. They are hanging round the house getting on her nerves. They are obviously unwelcome.

rookiemere · 02/08/2015 16:28

I think what's interesting OP, is you are starting to question this now, just at the point where the DSD's shouldn't require as much active looking after, rather than at the stage when they were children.

I believe what's happening is that you are now starting to look at this with a different, more mature perspective than before. You're in your late 20s, you've got a good job. your voice has as much right to be heard as your DPs. I know I did a lot of growing up in my twenties and what suited me at the beginning wouldn't have done so at the end.

Lets leave the DSDs to one side for the minute - assume they are both adults. Do you feel your life is as happy and fulfilled as it could be? Does your DP make you happy? Can you genuinely say that you're happier with him than you would be on your own or with someone else?

Your DP doesn't seem to be doing a great job of hearing and reacting to your concerns. Yes his DDs should come first, but he should be appreciative of what you do, not negating your contribution.

Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 02/08/2015 16:29

Book a week away ... pack a bag and go. Sit on the beach, visit friends, drink wine. Leave them too it. For those sating she doesnt care ... shes been the only one caring for years whilst the parents swan off. Shes exhausted and miserable. Whos taking care of OP? No one, not even OP...

Bonsoir · 02/08/2015 16:31

Until they are earning their own living and paying for their own accommodation they do not get to choose where they live. DC of separated/divorced parents are not entitled to choose with which parent they spend the night!

Muldjewangk · 02/08/2015 16:32

The OP said the children are 12 and 15 not 15 and 18.

Muldjewangk · 02/08/2015 16:35

My mistake they are 15 and 18. OP why are you babysitting an 18 year old?

saintlyjimjams · 02/08/2015 16:36

They were 8 & 11 seven years ago

Queenofwands · 02/08/2015 16:38

Bonsoir.. Imagine the conversation....To 18 year old, Can you stop coming round at weekends because your not really wanted....Ta. I know we said I'm still your Dad and your always welcome in our home but we didn't really mean it. That's just one of the things people say to their kids when they divorce.

Bonsoir · 02/08/2015 16:40

I have two DSSs, 18 and 20. 12 years of stepparenting. I'm really good at it Grin and they know they have to ask if they want to make changes to regular arrangements which are decided by their parents/stepparents who are the bosses in their homes.

Bonsoir · 02/08/2015 16:41

And DSCs are not "always welcome". They are welcome when residence arrangements agreed in advance say they should be there.

Viviennemary · 02/08/2015 16:49

I think that every other weekend would be more than reasonable. In fact if they are 15 and 18 there is no reason why you should be left in charge of them at any time. They don't need anybody to look after them. Your partner should make arrangements to be with his children for visits or whatever you want to call it. Why should you even be involved when they are this age. I don't see why anyone should be forced to look after their partner's children unless they want to or in an emergency.

Queenofwands · 02/08/2015 16:55

The point is she isn't looking after them. She doesn't want them there. Bonsoir.... I would hate my partners children to think they had to schedule time in my home. I think the kids should come first not the parent or step parents.

Bonsoir · 02/08/2015 17:00

Children don't make the house rules, Queen - not unless the family is dysfunctional.

Icrackedup · 02/08/2015 17:00

Are you left looking after your partner's children alone for entire weekends, Queenofwands?

rocket74 · 02/08/2015 17:06

Make your own arrangements and go out. Yoga. Swimming. Museum. You deserve a weekend too and the ex is monumentally taking the piss. Let them sort it out. You are not his free childcare. Been there and done that. Tell them only two weekends a month and the others are your own to do with as you please.

13months · 02/08/2015 17:09

Totally what Rookiemere said - there is a significant age gap between you and DP which he used to establish an unequal exploitative relationship....

you are now maturing/looking back and thinking WTF? You are right - this stinks - look forward and you will have this...

......she'll no doubt be required to share her home with his dc and their bf/dhs and his dgc whenever it suits them

I doubt Mr Abdicator will want to start another family from scratch now his children are nearly grown (I have 4 same age and couldnt imagine anything worse despite each being v much wanted - I have been there and done that)....and if he does cave and have kids with you it will be in the same lazy context and the no doubt with the dsds bfs and his dgc thrown in as well....

Get out and have fun and go wild and party - live the life you should have done in your 20s now before it is too late and you are shackled to a lazy middle aged bloke and his diva daughters! Enough already!

JamesBlonde1 · 02/08/2015 17:20

YANBU. You are being the babysitter for children who are not yours. When it's a weekend with your DP at work or he is called out, go to your friends, family, whoever or invite friends/family round.

If the children's parents can't care for them, they may have two sets of grandparents, aunts/uncles, godparents. You are the person who should have least responsibility for them.

These parents are seeing you as a convenient babysitter whether the kids are as a good as gold or not. Not your responsibility. Bollocks to that!

Parent = responsibility
Non parent = no responsibility

areyoubeingserviced · 02/08/2015 17:21

Do you know what. ?If I were you I would leave the home.
If you want to continue the relationship that is up to you, but I certainly wouldn't live with him anymore.
He is taking the proverbial piss.

Mehitabel6 · 02/08/2015 17:32

The problem here is not the amount of access- obviously the very best option for a parent is to have them 100% of the time- it is the fact that both parents have freedom while OP has done all the work!

Probably OP has realised as she got older that she has given up a lot for this. However it seems an odd time to get stressed about it as they are at an age to come and go as they please and so is she.

Sit them all down and arrange new rules - rotas for who does what in the house. Go out yourself at weekends, on your own or with friends. Go out in the evenings with DP - they don't need babysitters. Encourage them to go out with friends and get the house to yourself.

3littlefrogs · 02/08/2015 17:47

I think the OP is just waking up to the fact that she has been taken for a ride all these years. She was young and naive when she met her partner - he has treated her badly and essentially used her. Encouraged and enabled by his equally lazy and entitled ex wife.

Anyway - she hasn't been back. I hope she is making plans to live her life and make up for the wasted years that she could have been enjoying.

All the best Smurfette86. I hope you go out and do all the fun things you have missed out on, build your career and maybe meet a lovely man who will appreciate you and enjoy a future together.

AlisonBlunderland · 02/08/2015 17:48

The only unreasonable thing is that you put up with this arrangement for far too long.
Why complain now when the children are relatively self sufficient ?

His children.
His responsibility

Queenofwands · 02/08/2015 18:04

No I don't have any children and neither does my partner. But I have been close to enough adult children of divorce to know the pain and awkwardness they felt when in their step parents home. My Brother has stepchildren who he adores, and they adore him. My sister was passive aggressive hostile towards her's but wouldn't even admit that to herself. Luckily my parents stayed together . I would hate to feel that I had to ask permission to be in my Father or Mothers home. Is there anyone on Mnet who's children feel out of place in their ex partners new house.? It must be even worse when there are new children involved.