Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Cocklodger or AIBU?!

369 replies

Mugonhead · 21/07/2015 22:48

Hi all
I've name changed for this. really could use some advice as I feel like I'm in a potentially bad situation but for some reason sort of embarrassed to talk about it in RL.

Basically it's about my dp of one year. He is in the forces and works about an hour from where I live right now (though this could change depending on his next posting this time next year.) He comes to stay at my flat every weekend religiously and often takes extra leave days which he will invariably spend at mine. I live in London and I think he misses the London lifestyle from before joining up (in his mid twenties) and definitely would rather spend any free time in London than in his posting which is in the middle of nowhere really. I love him and I miss him during the week - but something has begun to niggle at me about this since I read about cocklodgers on MN! He's a lovely guy on the face of it all, but can be manipulative of people- one of his exes still doesn't know he cheated on her for 3 months. I should say I have rubbish judgement having been in an awful EA relationship before him. So while this is long, please please bear with me and help if you can!

Basically I know he's a tight person- since we started dating he didn't really do the paying for stuff/grand gesture type thing. We have pretty much always split 50/50 and he has even had sort of rants about how much he hates women who expect the guy to pay for everything and he would never do that even on like a first date. Ok, I'm an independent woman and I don't expect the guy to pay, but looking back at that it seems a bit of a red flag. He constantly says he is broke towards the end of the month, but I know he pays about £150pcm for his room on base, and he doesn't have other big overheads except the train fare to see me at weekends which with his forces discount is not much at all. For me, I rent a typically expensive london flat by myself and also have a child whose dad doesn't pay child support (another story!) so I shoulder those costs and while I have always earned under the national average and don't have a lot of disposable income, I make ends meet. My dc and I are currently living on rapidly dwindling small savings as I was made redundant a couple of months ago, though starting a new job next month which pays the same as my old salary. And yet we are still splitting stuff 50/50 when my dp is round at weekends (everything including stuff we cook at my home though he buys me the occasional fast food) and he has never offered to pay anything towards my rent or bills despite basically living at mine when he is not at work (I realised this when I saw my address was set as "Home" on his google maps!) I asked him if he would contribute even a small bit towards my rent knowing how tiny his rent on camp is and the fact that he earns more than I ever hAve anyway. He did not like the idea and said he already has his own place (on camp) and that he only comes because he wants to see me, which is nice but it feels like he's making me feel like I should feel privileged for his company when actually it's like I've got a live in dp (especially on weeks when he has extra leave and is around for 3,4,5 days.) None of this has changed even in the period I have been out of work even though he has seen me stressed about money. Everytime I talk about money worries he starts going on about his own money stresses but I just don't get how he can have any! He always says he's spent his entire pay cheque by the end of the month which if true is impressive because even earning less than him, with a dc to singlehandedly support and a big rent and bills, I was always able to put a little bit away at the end of month.

I think he does have very expensive tastes- he thinks nothing of £40 on a tshirt, hates h&m, primark which I live in, and only likes designer. He often seems to spend about £50 on drinks when he goes out in London to meet friends (which he has done a few times while ostensibly staying At mine for the weekend, I can't usually go because of dc, but it has sometimes made me feel like a free london hotel!) he proposes we go for meals/cinema but I always feel I have to pay half as he doesn't usually say he will pay for it. I have unsurprisingly found this financially very tricky while not in work! The one time I ever griped that I didn't like him going out all night then for a brunch the next morning without even inviting me, thus seeing london friends and doing london stuff while staying in my flat, he got angry and accused me of not appreciating him coming to see me. But if it wasn't for me he couldn't live his very cherished london lifestyle iyswim? To be honest, I might not mind if he even paid anything towards my flat as he treats it like his second home and over Xmas for example he would expect to be there... Or if he took care of groceries, wine or something at weekends. Anything to make it feel a bit more fair! But I feel grumpy that he's pleading poverty when he's on a good salary, he expects 50/50 when Im not on regular income and am paying for his weekend retreat constantly, and that he can be so irresponsible in the face of it eg. Buying a "spare" phone charger at £50 for no real reason, buying a £350 coat because it was in the "sale" at selfridges, buying hair products at £18 a pop. Does he think I'm stupid?

Sorry that was so long but I just am sick of worrying about money, I don't see this changing as he has the constant excuse that he's the one making the effort to come see me and yet he doesn't see my at (where he keeps increasingly more of his stuff, comes to every weekend even if I'm thinking of making other plans with skmekne else once in a while (he sulks), and even had a key cut for "in case of emergency".) I feel like I may be being taken for a mug. I would like us to commit to a more joint financial relationship. Or is he just a cocklodger?!

Argh please help wise mumsnetters! I've been turning this over in my mind and I don't know what to do!

OP posts:
DisillusionedGoat · 26/07/2015 17:07

I would text him, end it, sort out change locks and block, delete and put the whole thing behind me.

What do you think OP? It's doable.

CalmYourselfTubbs · 26/07/2015 17:12

he's a cheeky prick.
his friends are wankers too.
don't ever let him back in OP.

Sorka · 26/07/2015 17:15

Well done on standing up to him OP. Time to throw this man out of your life I think - and change the locks so he can't just let himself back in. I generally dislike breaking up with people by text, but in this case I think you should consider doing so so he can't shout you down.

Boosiehs · 26/07/2015 17:17

For god's sake change the locks! ASAP! then text him and tell him its over.

He is a total and utter waste of space and a waste of your precious time with your daughter and family.

You deserve MUCH better than this. You are clearly a good mum and you dont deserve crap from an utter cocklodger of the highest order!

Cake and Wine for courage

FeckTheMagicDragon · 26/07/2015 17:22

OP thanks for coming back and updating us. Can I ask - if you are away with your family for 3 weeks - is he going to be using your home while you are away?

FeckTheMagicDragon · 26/07/2015 17:23

You do know that he is projecting all his bad behaviour on to you right? And if he is proud of being a master manipulator is well aware of what he's doing.

FeckTheMagicDragon · 26/07/2015 17:28

Oh and now you've stood up to him he will punish you in some way to get you back in line. Radio silence, curt or guilt tripping texts, something like that.
He cutting you off from friends and family, controlling your life, not contributing, not supporting. What are you getting out of it? It all sounds really exhausting.

HeartsTrumpDiamonds · 26/07/2015 17:36

Good riddance.

Change the locks OP or he will be staying at yours the entire 3 weeks you are visiting your family.

Flowers to you, you amazingly strong woman.

DogWalker75 · 26/07/2015 17:43

Yes I wondered if he'd use your home to stay at whilst you're away. Please please change your locks ASAP! Then, text him to tell him that it's finished. Is this really how you want to spend your life? Tell him to sod off and get your social life back.

Plus, you can enjoy your holiday in peace if you dump him and block his number. If not, he'll no doubt send you some guilt tripping messages along the lines of you being selfish for having a nice holiday whilst he is working oh so hard back at home.

Re the phone, that is classic cheating behaviour. Especially the fact he keeps it in his PANTS in bed.

Please dump this cocklodger! We're all here to cheer you on and provide WineWineWine.

HappenstanceMarmite · 26/07/2015 17:52

Yes change those locks before he decides to camp out at your gaff when you're away!

FeckTheMagicDragon · 26/07/2015 17:54

OK, he's busy next weekend, then you have 3 weeks with your family. Thats a whole month.

First - as above - change your locks. Why take the risk of him using your home as a convenient London shag pad while you're away? It's not like he hasn't done it before. It is easy to do if you don't want to fork out for a locksmith.

Second - you need to decide if you are ready to dump him now, or after your holiday. If it's now - will it spoil your holiday? Or will being with your family help? If it's after your holiday - will he manage to wangle his way back in?

I would also say that he will start lining up his next cock lodgings as soon as he gets any hint that you are waking up and smelling the coffee. If he hasn't already (hence the phone being permanently attached - in his boxers?! FFS)

DoreenLethal · 26/07/2015 17:56

Change the freaking locks and take back your life.

lunar1 · 26/07/2015 18:02

You have to change the locks before you go away!

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/07/2015 18:06

I'm so glad you came back to this thread. I was worried you would leave it if he managed to weasel his way in again. Obviously, I'm going to agree with everyone and say change the locks and text him buh-bye.

BettyCatKitten · 26/07/2015 18:12

He's a selfish, cocklodging, miserly twat! Dump and move on Smile

Mugonhead · 26/07/2015 18:13

re changing the locks.. theres a big security door that needs a key and i def wouldnt be able to change that as othrs in my building have the same key. i can change my own lock, but luckily a friend is staying at my flat (and paying!!) for the 3 weeks so should be no worries there. its hard to imagine someone so close to you, who professes to love you, efectively sneaking into my flat. i know it happens but i cant believe it could be happening to me... can he really be that calculating and selfish? im beginning to think so.

i just feel overwhelmed, like i see everything differently, what was the last year about? i dont want to go on but its so sad and i want to keep strng but he always pushes my buttons. still no word from him though, he often does stonewall after arguments though. should i have contacted him first? thats what he will say. but he doesnt even care if im ok after the fight. he was the one who walked out. and he has staged a walk-out multiple times actually, to try and scare me. obv i can never get that opportunity as he is ALWAYS at mine...

all the support is so much appreciated. dd is getting better too i think :)

OP posts:
SylvanianCaliphate · 26/07/2015 18:14

Locks are essential.

Squaddies have an unwritten rule with girlfriends, if it's serious and he planned a future with you he would stop the neg stuff instantly.
'Serious' relationships are out of bounds but casual ones are fair game.

He is using you, because he's a wanker of the worst kind.
He is the type of tosser who thinks the pig board in the barracks is funny and shares conquests.

Drop him from a great height!

Ideally a scathing text or Facebook note about how shit he is in bed.

My DP is 30+ years in the forces and I'm still pissed off when I hear the stories Angry

Flowers you deserve better.

QueenQueenie · 26/07/2015 18:17

Well, he's done you a favour really op. He's shown you (again) what an arse he is by his behaviour and given you the perfect opportunity to end it now with him. You can tell him it's over, that you donb't want to see him again. And you'll have a month or so to reflect on it all when you wouldn't have seen him anyway.

He's an abusive cocklodger and you deserve soooo much better. You are far better on your own than with this horrible man who uses and controls you and makes you feel crap. Really you are.

It is also a terrible example to be showing your dd of what a relationship looks like. Please don't think she won't be affected by this. The atmosphere and him talking unpleasantly and disrepectfully to you WILL affect her you know.

Please use this as a chance to get away for good. And please change the locks. Text him then block him. AFTER you've changed the locks. And remember you don't have to justify yourself or explain or argue with him. If you've decided it's over it's over. You're allowed to decide that you don't want to continue with the relationship and that's the only thing he needs to know.

Good luck.

BerylStreep · 26/07/2015 18:29

You are half way there. What an unpleasant shit, throwing tantrums. Another vote for the final text finishing it, and changing the locks.

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/07/2015 18:31

I just don't like the idea of keys out there with someone like this. It's very easy to change the barrel on a lock on your own door and would just give you (and the friend staying) some peace of mind.

Sounds like he likes flouncing and drama and keeping you on edge. Life is TOOOOO short for that nonsense.

Inertia · 26/07/2015 18:34

Aside from taking out a full page advert announcing his credentials in Cocklodgers Monthly, he couldn't do much more to demonstrate to you exactly how much of a cocklodger he is.

This will never get better. You don't need his permission to end the relationship - it's your choice. You have the right to be respected, to see your friends, to spend time with your family, and to say no to this man.

Your sister is on the ball.

I would change the locks for your friend's peace of mind and security - it's not fair to charge her rent when your man could barge in at any time (potentially with God knows who in tow).

Inertia · 26/07/2015 18:34

Aside from taking out a full page advert announcing his credentials in Cocklodgers Monthly, he couldn't do much more to demonstrate to you exactly how much of a cocklodger he is.

This will never get better. You don't need his permission to end the relationship - it's your choice. You have the right to be respected, to see your friends, to spend time with your family, and to say no to this man.

Your sister is on the ball.

I would change the locks for your friend's peace of mind and security - it's not fair to charge her rent when your man could barge in at any time (potentially with God knows who in tow).

Atenco · 26/07/2015 18:34

The very fact that you find his friends obnoxious tells you a lot about him. I know you don't want to be alone, OP, but apart from the fact that he is not bringing anything positive to your life, he is cutting you off from your friends, so making you more alone.

You do sound so nice and a lot of us are speaking from experience of bastards and fear of being alone.

BerylStreep · 26/07/2015 18:36

Once you have split up, If he turns up in your building using keys he had made without your permission, he is trespassing.

BettyCatKitten · 26/07/2015 18:42

Beryl yes, and call the police if need be.