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Does anyone know much about limerence or ever experienced it?

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OneOutOneIn · 29/06/2015 19:26

It's something I've been reading about recently as I suspect I'm experiencing it with a particular evasive ex but I wonder if the truth is just to get a grip?

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violator · 18/07/2015 21:59

I've just come across this thread and I can relate to everything.

It all makes sense to me now... The way I was with an ex. Why I felt utterly out of control with him, utterly out of control when he left me for someone else, when I lay awake all night every night obsessing about him. Why I seduced him a year later simply because I wanted to know he'd cheated with ME.

Why I could not be trusted in his company and never ever if drink was involved. He was devastatingly handsome, to me, so intelligent, charming and a total cad.

Why even when he moved 5,000 miles away and I married someone else I needed to stay in touch with him and we did stay in touch, him because he was undoubtedly flattered knowing an ex-great-fuck would still go for it if asked, me because I just couldn't bear never seeing or hearing from him again.

Why when he died suddenly aged 39 last year I almost lost my mind with a grief I couldn't ever share.
I can't share this. Nobody knows the depth of the madness I had with this man, the way he touched my soul like no other.
Why I 'miss' him every single day. Every day.

LimCringe · 18/07/2015 23:19

Sorry for your loss violator.

Losingmyreligion · 18/07/2015 23:30

So that's what it was.

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keepingsecrecy · 21/07/2015 09:32

I was thinking of contacting my LO - had four weeks of NC.

Even thinking about it is making me irritable, nervous, a bit excited

I am thinking of reinstalling whatsapp to see if he will contact me.....

laurierf · 21/07/2015 09:58

I am thinking of reinstalling whatsapp to see if he will contact me…..

If you want to, then do it. But I can't see what benefit there is to this? Either he doesn't contact you and you feel like shit, or he contacts you, he uses you for sex and to boost his own ego... and then you feel like shit.

keepingsecrecy · 21/07/2015 10:16

You are right, I am going to feel like shit either way Sad

Being in a state of not knowing is better I guess

laurierf · 21/07/2015 10:26

Not knowing what? Whether he'd want to use you for sex again?

laurierf · 21/07/2015 10:31

The benefits of remaining NC… it takes a while to get some thing like this out of your system. If you re-engage, you take yourself right back to square one. So the 4 weeks you've just gone through… yes, you'd have to do that all over again PLUS the extra bit you're still going to have to go through now. Meanwhile, your self-respect, dignity and mental health take an absolute battering, your life gets worse and you block off your chances of being happy to just be yourself and therefore meeting someone decent.

Thebluedog · 21/07/2015 13:42

Been following this thread with interest as I think I'm in this now

I'm reading Mr Unavailable and the Fall Back Girl. It's me to a T and I find myself laughing at the truth of it.

I feel I'm almost ready to boot Mr Unavailable out and go NC Confused

keepingsecrecy · 21/07/2015 14:31

I just feel really confused.

Is he still interested in me? Will it be different now because I have had a break from him?

I can be stronger this time, he won't have such a hold over me

If I don't contact him then I have walked away with my head held high

I will be humiliated if he is not interested

Maybe I can just be friends with him and nothing more

BitOutOfPractice · 21/07/2015 14:54

In my experience keeping, I found very ingenious excuses to contact my LO. I always felt worse when I did.

brokenhearted55a · 21/07/2015 17:35

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TwirlyShoePoo · 21/07/2015 17:47

Whilst the limerence I experienced with my DH was textbook (him blowing hot and cold, me obsessing, him being a twat etc) my current LO is not like this at all.

He's (as far as I know) a really nice guy who likes me too, I'm just holding back from him as I'm still married (though v confused and messed up) and I am living out this fantasy life in my head about what it would be like if we got together. I barely know the guy so I'm obsessed about someone who probably doesn't exist, but I can't help it. Every time I see him it gets worse (we work together so no chance of NC)

Whilst I know the way DH and I got together was very unhealthy and has lead to our problems now, I'm more confused about what's going on with me now.

Is it limerence because I'm basing this on fantasy and escapism? Am I thinking negatively about my marriage because of this, or is it escapism because I'm unhappy?

I keep thinking 'what if' about my current LO - what if he is right for me where DH clearly isn't? I know this is crazy though

I have a counselling assessment this week which I clearly need. I feel in turmoil and I just want to feel normal

keepingsecrecy · 22/07/2015 21:40

I am euphoric, he messaged me!!!!!

SelfLoathing · 22/07/2015 22:44

Ah! Keepingsecrecy I know that feeling. No good will come of it as you and we all know.

A short high followed by an inevitable crash. What did it say?

Let me guess one of the following:

Hey - how are you?

I think about you.

Are you ok?

Would you like to [fill in something that you like doing that he never wanted to do before] eg. go for a drink/see that new band/catch up over dinner at xyz restaurant?

Thebluedog · 22/07/2015 22:56

That book I'm reading is really helping me. The rose tinted glasses are slowly coming off (I hope)...

SelfLoathing · 22/07/2015 23:00

If I don't contact him then I have walked away with my head held high
Sorry one more: I WISH I had done this. I feel like shit now he dumped me and apparently doesnt want contact.

I have a whole theory about this - I think it basically applies to interactions between narcissist types (people with NPD, sociopaths or people with just strong narcissistic types) and those who become limerent or obsessed with them (often people with borderline traits).

Namely that the interaction becomes a kind of game where the stakes get higher and higher.

Eg.

Round 1

N (the narcissistic type) chases X. X gets limerent. N then is cruel and cold. X chases. N withdraws. X chases more. Becomes very hurt by Ns behaviour and then backs off (causes Pain Round 1). There is a break in communiction (days/weeks/months as applicable)

Round 2

N (having a gap in his schedule) contacts X. X is thrilled at first and euphoric. If X has the will power to play the game and not fall into his arms straight away, N may chase a bit - but it's an easy prey. All is fine. Then N devalues X and disappears. This time X remembers Pain Round 1 so has Pain Round 1 + Pain Round 2. But also has a dash of hope on the side (he got in touch before).

Round 3

N (once more has a gap - being dumped by a more sensible woman!) contacts X. This time round, X is more cautious having been through this cycle before. X needs N to make more effort and prove himself more - so he needs to do a little bit more hoop jumping to secure the attention and sex. All is fine for a brief moment. Then N gets bored/devalues/finds someone new. This time X remembers Pain Round 1 + Pain Round 2 and also has Pain Round 3. X resolves no contact.

Round 4

X is set on no contact as a method of self protection. She may weaken and contact N or she may tough it out until he gets in touch. But whatever the position is, she feels in order to save face she needs to make more of a "you can't treat me like this" statement. (It's all rubbish because N knows full well X is on the hook or can be tickled back on to it easily). So X will try to do something "different" to make it "different" this time - it could be prolonged no contact (4 weeks instead of 2) or it could be demanding he jumps through more hoops. This time, same result but cummulative pain.

etc etc etc.

in other words, on each fresh cycle the stakes get higher because X suffers more cummulative pain and has the trauma of realising that they are stuck in a cycle; N has to go to a bit more effort each time as X frantically tries to save face and so his devaluations become more and more extreme.

It's like doubling up every round in poker. Eventually someone will end up emotionally bankrupt - but it won't be N.

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Thebluedog · 23/07/2015 09:49

I find we play this see/saw game.. The more I move towards him, show him interest, text back straightaway, the more disinterested he is and and he withdraws. The less interest I show, waiting before texting, not taking the conversation where he wants it to, the closer he moves into me, more interest is shown.
Tbh it's exhausting

brokenhearted55a · 23/07/2015 11:51

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