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Desperately Trying to Move On - My Divorce from Mr WT Part 3 - It's Nearly OVER!

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TheFormidableMrsC · 24/06/2015 22:05

I am so grateful to all of those who have followed and supported me throughout this bloody ordeal! I hope this will be the last one.one and it will be over very soon! Thread 1 : www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2030270-PLEASE-HELP-DESPERATE-AND-AWFUL-DIVORCE?
Thread 2 : www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/2137545-Whos-Desperate-and-Awful-Now-Story-of-My-Divorce-from-Mr-WT-Part-2

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Notabeararaccoon · 15/07/2015 22:08

Oh MrsC. I'm sorry, I have nothing constructive I can think to say, but Flowers and a big hug to you. Hope your daughter's surgery went ahead with no problems, and hope the post contact comedown wasn't too awful for you or your DS.

Alas, you have no magical penis, just a rancid old one you're still trying to get rid of.

TheFormidableMrsC · 15/07/2015 22:25

Am a big, teary, struggling mess tonight. After 9 hours in hospital, surgery was postponed, part clinical (blood pressure down to 101 over nothing) and only two out of three MRSA tests proving negative. My DD is horribly thin (partly down to recovering from eating disorder, BMI only 15.9, way way below healthy range). I have done nothing but run from pillar to post today and got exactly nowhere. I really could have done with some support today, my kids are all over the place. DS a nightmare tonight...I really need to go to bed. Have had all of 10-12 hours sleep over the last 72. I just wanted to say DD is OK, home and safe, but no op, DS is home and safe but a nightmare and I am praying that we don't have a night like last night because I so need to catch up on some sleep.

However, was delighted to see that Mr WT has bigger tits than Plastic Pauline. I am sure they can share expensive bras now. Fat, alcoholic arsehole. Where's he when you need to "co-parent"? Oh he isn't....Hmm

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Anniegetyourgun · 15/07/2015 22:36

Ah, poor DD. Unsettling for DS too, with a knock-on effect on you, so all in all not very satisfactory Sad Hope things look up again soon. They will, you know. See those trees? There's a lovely wood hiding behind them somewhere.

TheFormidableMrsC · 15/07/2015 22:43

Notabear...good GOD, I wouldn't want HIS penis back!! It was really small. I know that now ;-)

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TheFormidableMrsC · 15/07/2015 22:46

Annie...yes, you're right. I will be OK tomorrow. Am going to go to bed. Sleep cures everything doesn't it? Thanks everybody, you're all wonderful as usual! Smile Star Flowers

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Bogeyface · 15/07/2015 22:54

You know where I am if you want a moan my love :)

:o at the size of his tits. My useless ex was vying with his new partner for biggest tits in the house after 6 months with her, they dont try for very long do they?! Get all slim and fit when they are on the pull, as soon as their feet are under the table the middle aged spread is back with a vengance :o

AcrossthePond55 · 16/07/2015 02:41

Size joke apropos of Mr WT's 'shortcomings'

Know why women can't estimate measurements very well?

Because men keep telling us that this

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Is 8 inches. Grin

AcrossthePond55 · 16/07/2015 02:58

Ok, so I typed that on my iPad where it appears very small. I now realize that it might look very different on a large screen!

Think index finger, not cucumber and you'll get the joke.
Blush

pointythings · 16/07/2015 17:01

Oh MrsC what a nightmare day for all of you! Here's hoping your DD's MRSA clears soon and they can get on with the op, and wish her a solid recovery in terms of her eating disorder too. It isn't easy.

And I feel for your DS too, it must have been a horribly unsettling day for him. I hope you had a good night's sleep and a restful day today.

TheFormidableMrsC · 16/07/2015 21:12

Evening all! Feeling much better and refreshed after a good 9 hours sleep last night! We all slept well, was a very long day. DD's surgery has been rescheduled for August and as she would have had 3 negative MRSA swabs by then, she will go in at 7 and the op will be done by 11, so nobody will be expecting her to fast for 24 hours...Smile.

Bogey, it does make me laugh, Mr WT walked out of here buff, ripped, fit, lovely hair, looking years younger than his age. I can't even describe how bad he looks now. You've got to hand it to Pauline, nobody will so much as glance at him now, she's ensured that he is as ugly as possible.

Across, that did make me laugh and is actually fairly accurate! Not sure if it is fortunate or unfortunate but I have been absolutely spoiled over the past year by Mr EWE (exceptionally well endowed) and thus couldn't settle for anything less Grin.

It's lovely to know that Mr WT and Pauline are off for a lovely little celebratory holiday. The sacrifices they must have made to afford that, what with the mortgage arrears, insolvent businesses, vets fees, bills, flying lessons etc etc etc. Poor things. I guess my son has paid for that, it must be about 10 months since his maintenance was halved, so that's £1,500 out of our very limited budget. Enough to pay for a romantic little break I guess? I love that he's got his priorities all in order....!

Has anybody been over to Hobbits Bar lately? So many newcomers, all the stories the same....there really are some evil people in this world Sad.

Anyway, I will post a bit later, about DS, have been meaning to do so since Saturday but it's been rather a stressful week....xx

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bobs123 · 16/07/2015 22:25

Happy for you that you got a decent night's sleep *MrsC" - makes all the difference. Love the name - Mr EWE Grin

Looks like more than 8" on my mobile Across Hmm

TheFormidableMrsC · 16/07/2015 22:46

8 inches Bobs....er, no, definitely not...;-)

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AcrossthePond55 · 16/07/2015 23:27

bobs you must have a BIG mobile screen!

TheFormidableMrsC · 17/07/2015 00:36

So as things stand, I am worried about my DS when am I not?. Last Saturday, he returned from contact and seemed OK, I just asked if he'd had a nice day and he said he wanted to play out with my neighbour's little boy so we sat outside for an hour or so. I then had to pop to Sainsburys, half way there, DS starts to cry and said "I don't want to go to Daddy's anymore". I asked him why and he said "Daddy keeps telling me off". OK, he has him for 11 hours a week, what the fuck could he have to keep telling him off about? It transpires, through sobs, that it was because he chased the puppy. It is quite possible he could have hurt the puppy, it has happened with other animals, so you keep him away, surely?

I have mentioned before that DS has an issue with animals, we all know, family, friends, neighbours, that he absolutely must be supervised and he has received injuries in the past because of this. So Mr WT moves into a zoo. He puts DS in a no-win situation, where he is exposed to the very things he really ought to be kept away from. DS, it appears, reacts as expected and gets told off. He has already been injured by Mr WT's ferrets, despite the idiot knowing full well about the animal issue. More recently he has come home with huge scratches on him which he said were caused by the puppy and he has frequently said he doesn't like the puppy. Of course, Mr WT would say I am making this all up. Fortunately, we all know differently. Why is he incapable of keeping my son away from the fucking animals? That house is absolutely full of them. It makes me laugh, we weren't allowed pets, Mr WT didn't like them. Mind you, his other hates were breast implants and tattoos on women, it's amazing how you adjust your preferences when you need to cocklodge isn't it? However, I digress. I think it is unacceptable to put an aspergic four year old in that position and then give him a hard time about it.

Furthermore, despite undertakings to solicitors, parents, me, so on and so forth, it is clear that OW is frequently around my DS. I don't know what is wrong with the woman that she thinks this is OK? She hasn't demonstrated any reason for me to trust her around my son. She dismissed his autism, has been cruel about my daughter, let a man she only met two weeks before move into her house with a child who had just lost his father as you do Hmm. I do wonder if her husband had done to her what mine has done to me if she might feel the same about a woman who had wrecked her family and behaved in the way she has being around her little boy? I did put this to my husband once and he couldn't answer me. He fucking well knows what she'd be like, we all do, especially my brother. As far as I was concerned, Mr WT arranged contact around the few hours a week she works. That was what he asked for. I still maintain that they tell him "don't tell Mummy", his behaviour is so odd on return, he is either very quiet and withdrawn or very angry and violent and that was why I arranged for the therapist to be here post-contact a few weeks ago in order that she could see how he behaves. It's really quite upsetting. She had already seen DS after the arrest incident and decided to not even assess him as his behaviour change was abundantly clear. They are damaging him and absolutely fail to see it. THIS is the reason why, as a parent, you do the courses, you learn about the condition, you put strategies in place and everything I do, they undo. If my husband has got off his fat arse and done all the things I have, we wouldn't in this position now.

On the following Monday, DS had his second transition visit to the new school. When he came out I asked if he'd had a nice time and what he'd done and he said "I drew a picture of you, daddy, me and before daddy left us". I was horrified, I was standing next to the other mum from our current school whose DD is moving too and she just put her hand to her mouth and then said to me "they don't realise how much damage they do". DS has asked questions and I have just said that daddy didn't want to live with us anymore. He is starting to realise and they need to realise that DS will one day know the whole horrible truth. It is interesting when you look round the relationship threads, particularly Hobbits Bar, that where there are older children, not a single one of them has wanted to meet Dad's "other woman". Not one. They have the choice. My son appears to have no choice, his father attempting to shoehorn him into his latest set up and force his OW, her kid and her parents on him at every opportunity. He is not old enough to say anything, but the reflection in his behaviour and wellbeing is clear. When OW was busy issuing ultimatums to my husband, the last person she gave any thought to whatsoever was my little boy, yet it is him who will suffer the most because of their vile, selfish behaviour.

I am taking advice where I can, from appropriate sources. A decision on going forward will have to be made. I am relieved that DS will be in school full time from September as that will reduce his exposure. What a fucking mess this is Sad.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 17/07/2015 00:40

Please excuse my sudden onset of Tourettes...but I am so tired of clearing up the mess they've made of all our lives.

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AcrossthePond55 · 17/07/2015 02:02

I think it's a combination of extreme selfishness and a desire to strike at you by hurting what is most precious to you. The latter, I think, isn't to directly do a hurt or an injury to DS. Rather that when a decision needs to be made or an action needs to be taken their first impulse is to do the opposite of what you would do without regards to the wisdom or rightness of it. "Oh, MrsC says he shouldn't be around dogs? Well, forget that, she's ridiculous and just trying to cause problems!". Upshot, DS gets scratched and told off. Because they can't admit that your philosophy could be right, could they? Same with being around Pauline. If you aren't in favour of it, of course they're going to do it! Sad, sad, sad. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to this one since murder is still illegal! KIDDING!!!!!!

I guess all you can do is what you are doing. Unfortunately that means running ragged putting out all the fires. But remember, love, this will pass. As DS gets older, even with his challenges, he will also get wiser.

mummytime · 17/07/2015 06:43

I do hope school will help. Hopefully his teachers will be independent witnesses of changes in behaviour in your DS.

butterflygirl15 · 17/07/2015 08:10

I think the time has come for you to change your name, grow a beard and leave the country. That will learn them - the fuckers.

Sorry flippant but bloody hell - you are so right about older dc refusing to meet ow, plus they don't often bother with their own father either - once they see what a feckless, embarrassment of a man he has become. Karma's a bitch eh and it will catch up with them both with bells on.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 17/07/2015 09:52

Oh you poor love, and your poor DS. :(
How far away are you moving, and how soon? Wish it could be sooner. Your ex doesn't deserve access to your son, he really doesn't - and I hope that the psychs and professionals will advise that he doesn't have overnight contact or anything other than supervised contact for the foreseeable.

You have a case for them putting him in harm's way - did you photograph the scratches? - and that should be a heavy weight in your favour for keeping him away from that pair of utter fuckwits.

TheFormidableMrsC · 17/07/2015 10:21

Morning all, gosh I am feeling very sad this morning. DS has his last day at nursery and it was very tearful this morning, knowing we have to say goodbye. The school has been part of my life for the past 12 years so it is a huge wrench. I wish he was staying there. So where was his father? He's off on a jolly with OW. Has hasn't attended a single parents evening, has missed two sports days, hasn't attended a single "shared reading" morning or any of the "stay and play" sessions, he has done exactly nothing to support DS during his pre-school and nursery years. I expect the same attitude to prevail. Utterly useless.

Across, I think you're right sadly. There is no dealing with those who are set on a path of righteous indignation and blinkered vision. You can't reason with people like that. OW might have no issue immediately "moving on" from her husband's death and letting her married "toyboy" move in, I could never have done that to my kids. I have dated a lot, I have a lovely no strings thing now, but I have never brought anybody to my home or introduced anybody to my children. It's far too soon and I see the damage done to them every single day by Mr WT's actions. For him, it is out of sight, out of mind. There are no words to describe people like them. Not printable ones anyway. My husband has such a huge lack of judgement and picks somebody who tells me "I will always do right by you and your children"...yet has spent the last two years making my life and their life an utter misery. Why would I want my son exposed to that?

Mummytime, indeed I have had a short meeting with the welfare officer at the new school and a much longer one arranged for September, which she felt was necessary after I gave her the short version of events. Interestingly, she asked me if I thought my husband was autistic. Yes, 100%, but he will never do anything about it. He's never done anything about any of his issues and thus his life with be dictated by his utterly peculiar behaviour and totally skewed emotional and moral boundaries.

Butterfly...grow a beard?! Am menopausal, I am fighting to keep one away Grin. I know what you mean though....and I know your DD has cut her father off because of his hideous OW. They never learn do they?

Thumb we are making plans as we speak. I have chosen two locations, am trying to establish what financial constraints I have, employment prospects, education prospects. It's not going to happen overnight unfortunately. Yes, I keep a diary of everything as I was advised to do. I have to tell you that husband has told me he keeps a "log" of all the "injuries" DS receives while in my care...a very dangerous thing to say. Goodness, he's four years old, forever falling over, he's very clumsy, bruised, scraped knees etc. However, having never even had so much as a smack on the hand, I can be sure that I have never "injured" him (apart from when I trod back on his foot and took him to A&E - they didn't call social services) Hmm. God, it's awful, it really is.

Anyway, I guess we can just keep KOKO'ing...nothing else for it. Thanks everybody Flowers

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 17/07/2015 10:48

Well even if he does have such a log, it's going to be completely apparent to all concerned which parent is actively involved in your DS's care, and which one hasn't the first clue nor interest in anything he does. Thanks

GirlDownUnder · 17/07/2015 10:50

Wow - I am happy to repeat myself - you really are The Formidable Mrs C Flowers

Your ability to find the humour (black or otherwise) and voice to mock shows just how strong you really are. Mr WT is certainly the poorer for loosing you.
Your children will be leaning valuable lessons in self worth, dignity, and fortitude from you - they'll be learning how not to parent from Mr WT and Pauline.

I am sorry that life for you and yours seems so unjustly hard right now, so wishing you a happy Friday, peace, and the continued strength to KOKO.

butterflygirl15 · 17/07/2015 11:24

Maybe if he spent less time with his fictitious, spurious log and spent more time trying to be a better father, and person in general, maybe then the life of those around him and himself would improve dramatically. Because as I see it all the bile and hatred those two are meting out seems to be turning in on themselves and all they are doing is poisoning themselves. Because let's face it if they were happy and decent people they wouldn't feel the need to be such utterly vile bullies would they.

AgathaChristie01 · 17/07/2015 12:00

Nothing to offer Mrs C, except Brew.
Hope you get more sleep, this weekend, and that things start to improve.

ScrambledSmegs · 17/07/2015 14:52

Your poor little boy Sad. It's appalling that they can't see past their own spite and bile to realise that your only aim is to raise a happy, well-adjusted man. How dare that man call himself a father? Real parents put their children first and defend them from harm, not put them in harm's way and then berate them for the results.

To be honest, if this is what they're doing to a child who's only in their care for 11 hours a week, I dread to think what they're doing to the one they have full time care of. Fucking the poor kid up beyond belief, I bet.

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