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social services tore my family apart

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kimboz2627 · 24/05/2015 11:39

I have been with my (ex)partner 5 and a half years we've had ups and downs like everyone.
I've suffered depression and anxiety I went through ALOT as a child and I suppose I push people to the edge to see if they love me in my eyes (hitting) I have alot of issues and accept I need counselling and help with my anger myself I'm not perfect.
I'm not taking full responsibility for his actions there's no excuse to hurt a woman either.
there have been times I've called the police just to get him out and have a break to gather my own thoughts and feelings,obviously DV flags up and social services get involved they have been on and off since I had my Daughter in 2011,now they said that basically if I don't comply with their rules they will take the children away.
My anxiety has come back full throttle so of course I told him to get his own place.
social service made and I literally mean MADE me get a ex parte non molestation order and a prohibited steps order(he took them in January without my consent) but realised after a week it's not easy being a single parent and soon bought them back.
Social services are basically keeping us apart now and telling him one thing and me another.I stay in regular contact with the nursery my daughter goes to and health visitor and always tell the truth about what's going on at home to which they both say my children are fine and not showing any signs of anything being wrong.
I don't understand how social services can tear my family apart and the just 'close the case' but say if we ever resume a relationship the children will go to child protection straight away without even so much as an assessment??
I feel let down by the courts and social services I'm just an anxious mum who listens to anyone and does as she's told literally by any authority.
The social worker even told me to 'act scared and cry if I can' so I get the orders I was scared of her and being in a courtroom for the first time so obviously that showed.
I think we can work on our relationship living separately and only when we are happy and comfortable resume it properly including moving back to the family home or start a fresh somewhere.
I'm in a state of panic and really do not know what to do my sister is the go between right now and he's willing to do what it takes and so am I.
Our children are happy healthy and have everything they could ever need/want in life we both care and love them deeply but I do not like being dictated to by SS they say about control and DV and that's what they are doing to me surely it's abusive behaviour as THEY say.
I would never let my children get hurt or anything but they say even when they are asleep they hear blah blah blah,surely every couple argues and yes it's gone beyond that but we want help to keep our family not drive a wedge I just feel like a statistic right now and not a woman who just wants her family together.
I accept it's going to be a long road and we both have to be willing I think we are so what can I do any adviadvice??
I will be ringing my solicitor and the social workers supervisor asap to clarify the situation my sister has a child and life of her own he doesn't pose a risk to the children every report says we are good parents we just have the times of hardship and need support that they don't give!!
The only thing they have to go on is me calling the police and him taking them in January he's been charged twice (pleaded guilty) any other incident which is 2 maybe 3 more got NFA!!
They twisted my words and I'm guilty of not reading just signing things making the situation worse they say things I never even said trying to catch us out.
Any advice will be appreciated thanks so much for reading.

OP posts:
clpsmum · 15/10/2022 07:18

YouMakeMyHeartSmile · 24/05/2015 11:41

I'm sorry but if there is domestic violence then you absolutely should not be together.

This. It's not good for children to live in a toxic environment. SS are looking out for their best interests

clpsmum · 15/10/2022 07:19

Elllimam · 24/05/2015 11:46

Social services didn't rip your family apart. Your violent partner ripped your family apart.

This

oakleaffy · 15/10/2022 07:20

ZOMBIE ZOMBIE ZOMBIE ALERT

This thread is SEVEN years out of date.

clpsmum · 15/10/2022 07:21

kimboz2627 · 24/05/2015 11:51

Can I just say this is my life choice please do not judge me I am anxious enough as it is it's hard to let go a few weeks ago I had a home a family we had our ups and downs but were seeking help and support and now social services have put a stop I put our names on a relationship counselling list but now because of the non molestation order we cannot attend.

Do ask for advice from strangers if you're not going to take it. People are judging you because you are putting your children in a situation where they are witnessing and living with DV and you appear to be more concerned about yourself. You and your partner are ripping your family apart not SS, they are acting in the childrens best interests as you are not.

oakleaffy · 15/10/2022 07:21

Who the hell resurrected the Zombie?
OP hasn’t been on for seven years!

NewtoHolland · 15/10/2022 07:26

Oh sweet, please don't loose your children for this man. Are you working with your local domestic abuse charity? Have you done the freedom program or similar? It'll help open your eyes up to what's going on. Also look at your local IAPT services to help with anxiety and looking at changing thought patterns and helping recovery. You do not 'push' people to hit you...that language is the language of a women controlled by an abuser. It's so so hard but going through this process will set you free. Just choose your children, and yourself. Work on your healing and abstain from any other romantic relationships for a couple of years to give your self a chance to build yourself up, recover and heal. The fact you blame it all on SS shows how well he's got into your head.

MyrtlethePurpleTurtle · 15/10/2022 07:27

DaughterofDawn · 15/10/2022 03:45

What the fuck did I just read. Well I imagine with your current attitude if you don’t get back together with that idiot then you will just find another man to abuse you and your children.

Something from seven years ago

NewtoHolland · 15/10/2022 07:27

Oops sorry replied seeing it was active didn't realise it was a zombie thread. Oh hope the OP moved on and still has her children :(

ThatshallotBaby · 15/10/2022 07:28

ZOMBIE

Seymour5 · 15/10/2022 07:31

Don’t people read the last post before they feel the need to give their opinion? Plenty of zombie warnings, but still the posts keep coming.

whichwayiwonder · 15/10/2022 07:31

You say your children have everything they could ever want or need - surely a secure, calm, safe home in which to grow up is fairly fundamental.

YenneferOfVengabus · 15/10/2022 07:33

You are both violent and have had 5 incidents of DV recorded with the police, after 2 of which, he was charged? SS are acting in the best interests of your children: it is your duty to protect them and raising them in a violent household, where the police have to resolve your arguments, is not protecting them.
You need to prioritise your children over an awful relationship - if you don't, rightly, SS will. Their training will be influenced by serious case reviews, where children end up dead because their parents minimise their partners' violence. Add to that your own violence, and I think SS are doing absolutely the right thing.

whichwayiwonder · 15/10/2022 07:34

Oops

sunshineamongsttheshitstorm · 15/10/2022 07:37

Social services didn't tear your family apart , you and your partner did that by yourself.

Social services are doing the best by your children so they don't have to live in a violent home, with 2 people who can't control themselves. It's not a healthy household. You are blinded. Your poor kids!!!!!!

Don't blame social services open your eyes.
Stop thinking about yourself. The home your kids are living in now is probably. A far better one for THEM.

DaughterofDawn · 15/10/2022 07:45

Seymour5 · 15/10/2022 07:31

Don’t people read the last post before they feel the need to give their opinion? Plenty of zombie warnings, but still the posts keep coming.

Well the necro’d post shows up in trending one typically assumes it is a new thread. An old thread is showing up in trending is a bit misleading is it not? Or do old threads show up in trending on mumsnet often? I’ve only been around for a bit on mumsnet but my experience with forums in the past I have never ever seen a post that is SEVEN YEARS OLD pop up on a trending list. Would you say this is unique to mumsnet?

Evira · 15/10/2022 07:54

kimboz2627 · 24/05/2015 12:02

I came here for support many families go through this and I do put my children first hence taking the steps to ensure all our safety.
I think it's sick to even suggest he'd ever hurt the children where is you reasoning behind that.
Seriously people need to realise the world isn't so black and white.
I understand we both have issues separately and won't be thinking about resuming any kind of relationship with him until 1.the orders are up and 2.we both seeked helped for our separate issues but people CAN change or are we all destined to be miserable sods forever.
I'm not having any contact right now but don't appreciate being dictated to.
I'm not saying in a year after I've done courses I will either want him and vice versa but I am expressing my anxiety about social services.

Sadly, because of your own background you are minimising.

‘Many families go through this’ No, they really don't.

Namechangeforthis88 · 15/10/2022 07:55

Someone resurrects them is why they come up on trending. The person who resurrected this has now rightly started his own thread on a similar topic but he must have been searching previous similar threads. Not a regular and someone desperate for advice, so understandable.

Evira · 15/10/2022 07:57

oakleaffy · 15/10/2022 07:21

Who the hell resurrected the Zombie?
OP hasn’t been on for seven years!

Oh, sorry, just seen.

No one will have purposely resurrected this. There is an MN glitch. ( see site stuff) which is notifying PP’s of very old threads, even where they've never posted on them. I had 50+ notifications yesterday.

jetadore · 15/10/2022 08:12

@kimboz2627 If you have anxiety and don’t want to be judged then for the sake of your own mental health get off aibu asap. This is not the place to come for supportive, empathetic advice, it’s a pecking party of posters completing to deliver the ‘harshest truth’.

Evira · 15/10/2022 08:17

Seven year old thread @jetadore - see above.

There are going to be loads of them around.

EmilyGilmoresSass · 15/10/2022 08:25

kimboz2627 · 24/05/2015 11:51

Can I just say this is my life choice please do not judge me I am anxious enough as it is it's hard to let go a few weeks ago I had a home a family we had our ups and downs but were seeking help and support and now social services have put a stop I put our names on a relationship counselling list but now because of the non molestation order we cannot attend.

I'm confused as to why you started this thread if you didn't want peoples feedback?

SPH112 · 15/10/2022 08:27

kimboz2627 · 24/05/2015 12:02

I came here for support many families go through this and I do put my children first hence taking the steps to ensure all our safety.
I think it's sick to even suggest he'd ever hurt the children where is you reasoning behind that.
Seriously people need to realise the world isn't so black and white.
I understand we both have issues separately and won't be thinking about resuming any kind of relationship with him until 1.the orders are up and 2.we both seeked helped for our separate issues but people CAN change or are we all destined to be miserable sods forever.
I'm not having any contact right now but don't appreciate being dictated to.
I'm not saying in a year after I've done courses I will either want him and vice versa but I am expressing my anxiety about social services.

Don't write the board then if you're offended with people telling you their opinions.

Pretty much everyone has told you SS are putting your kids first. Why can't you put them first instead of stressing about your relationship. Looks to me you don't like being told the truth

SPH112 · 15/10/2022 08:29

Ugh just seen this is a zombie thread

Applesonthelawn · 15/10/2022 08:29

I think you have distorted vision about the situation on a number of fronts. Stop wasting your energy fighting SS (even if only in your mind) and get therapy, and commit to a long term period of self-analysis and healing. I'm sorry because it will be a hard road to travel but ultimately it can be very worth while. You are doing your children a massive favour, the best gift any parent could give them in fact, in committing to that now so that their example of a relationship/normal behaviour is reset. To fail to do that would condemn them to a lot of the problems you are experiencing now. There is a better future out there and you have no choice now but to fight for it and break the cycle.

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